GhostfaceJim Posted November 3, 2020 Member ID: 2314 Group: ++ Conan Exiles Admin Followers: 31 Topic Count: 116 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 20751 Content Per Day: 3.99 Reputation: 5328 Achievement Points: 114107 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 50 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 04/22/1975 Device: Windows Posted November 3, 2020 There have been people that I work with that have died, but I work for a large company. No one close to me thank goodness. DrDysl3xia and PimpedOutPete 2 Awards
DrDysl3xia Posted November 3, 2020 Member ID: 28478 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 53 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 37 Achievement Points: 605 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/20 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 12, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 11 hours ago, PimpedOutPete said: Sharp, 2.5% is 2.5%. Its incredibly dark to start marginalizing someone life just because of their age or if they have predispositions. Also the last time I checked the general public does include anyone over 55. Problem is the higher the case count, the higher the hospital rates. That translates into more death or long lasting serious health issues. I understand the lockdown that are happening in the UK such and I your right about them, but please dont minimize this to a point where people dont take this seriously. My honest opinion, before COVAD-1984 we had a major pending Baby Boomer problem from medical needs to nursing homes. Problem solved. I may sound as if I advocate this and I assure you I don't. Murder is murder. Not a thing natural about this virus.
major-mark63 Posted November 3, 2020 Member ID: 23233 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3097 Content Per Day: 0.87 Reputation: 2307 Achievement Points: 24594 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/10/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/11/1963 Device: Windows Posted November 3, 2020 20 hours ago, Sharpe said: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html Halfway down the page under current best estimate we have an infection fatality rate of : 0-19 years: 0.003% 20-49 years: 0.02% 50-69 years: 0.5% 70+ years: 5.4% This puts the cdc best current infection fatality rate at 0.65%, although earlier in the year they had it the same as Ioannidis at 0.26%. https://reason.com/2020/07/23/there-is-more-than-one-covid-19-infection-fatality-rate/. I'll be travelling into the city here in an hour, I'm unconcerned. This could be a low rate of fatality but what about the amount of people getting in hospital and often overhelmeing ICu , thats the problem.. hospital cant handle that amount of sick peoples at the same time , other diseases like cancer and other still occurs... Workers in hospital geeting forced to do overtime... PimpedOutPete 1 Awards
DrDysl3xia Posted November 3, 2020 Member ID: 28478 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 53 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 37 Achievement Points: 605 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/20 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 12, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, major-mark63 said: This could be a low rate of fatality but what about the amount of people getting in hospital and often overhelmeing ICu , thats the problem.. hospital cant handle that amount of sick peoples at the same time , other diseases like cancer and other still occurs... Workers in hospital geeting forced to do overtime... Yet many doctors and nurses were furloughed because they were only preparing to treat COVAD-1984 patients. Not only restaurant, gift shop plus many other types of businesses lost their job. This is all prep for the A.I. cooking staff, doctors and everything other. Humans are being replaced willingly. Edited November 3, 2020 by DrDysl3xia
Sharpe Posted November 3, 2020 Member ID: 23520 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 34 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 797 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 876 Achievement Points: 7615 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/13/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: 26 minutes ago Device: Windows Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, major-mark63 said: This could be a low rate of fatality but what about the amount of people getting in hospital and often overhelmeing ICu , thats the problem.. hospital cant handle that amount of sick peoples at the same time , other diseases like cancer and other still occurs... Workers in hospital geeting forced to do overtime... You haven't actually provided any stats there though. How many hospitals are there in the USA? How many of them were overwhelmed? All of the lockdown bullshit was predicated on figures that were off by a factor of 12 (Neil Fergusons Imperial College model), and yes that does factor in "flattening the curve" which the model had built in. Remember all those makeshift hospitals that were built? They were called Nightingale hospitals here in the Uk. The didn't need them : https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/09/are-the-nightingale-hospitals-being-used-how-many-built-13395246/ On balance this was probably a reasonable response at the time - better to have them and not need them. In the end though the models were wrong. RobMc 1 Awards
RobMc Posted November 3, 2020 Member ID: 25355 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 31 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5824 Content Per Day: 1.88 Reputation: 9236 Achievement Points: 63677 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 141 Joined: 12/14/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14 Birthday: 01/05/1954 Device: Windows Posted November 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, Sharpe said: All of the lockdown bullshit was predicated on figures that were off by a factor of 12 (Neil Fergusons Imperial College model), and yes that does factor in "flattening the curve" which the model had built in. Remember all those makeshift hospitals that were built? They were called Nightingale hospitals here in the Uk. The didn't need them : https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/09/are-the-nightingale-hospitals-being-used-how-many-built-13395246/ On balance this was probably a reasonable response at the time - better to have them and not need them. In the end though the models were wrong. What I can't understand (I agree with you by the way) is having built these why aren't we putting covid cases in them and keeping them away from the main hospitals, makes sense to me, but then I am an idiot? Sharpe 1
major-mark63 Posted November 4, 2020 Member ID: 23233 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3097 Content Per Day: 0.87 Reputation: 2307 Achievement Points: 24594 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/10/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 08/11/1963 Device: Windows Posted November 4, 2020 19 hours ago, Sharpe said: You haven't actually provided any stats there though. How many hospitals are there in the USA? How many of them were overwhelmed? All of the lockdown bullshit was predicated on figures that were off by a factor of 12 (Neil Fergusons Imperial College model), and yes that does factor in "flattening the curve" which the model had built in. Remember all those makeshift hospitals that were built? They were called Nightingale hospitals here in the Uk. The didn't need them : https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/09/are-the-nightingale-hospitals-being-used-how-many-built-13395246/ On balance this was probably a reasonable response at the time - better to have them and not need them. In the end though the models were wrong. Oh im sorry i was talking about situation in my province Quebec Canada, yes its different in your place , we never lay off any workers in hospital actually there a lack of employees and its worst with covid when health workers get infected and have to stay home for quanrantine. PimpedOutPete and DrDysl3xia 2 Awards
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