RobMc

Pretty much, in a world wide problem if they don't all 'buy in' it's a waste of effort isn't it?, and that's the situation which is likely to remain.

Well I did warn you about hanging around those toilets in the park ?????

No, it means either they all do it or all ignore it, the current situation is that the largest polluters are doing nothing, while the others are trying at great cost. To put it in Rob terminology 'They are pissing against the wind, and paying heavily for it'. By the way Sammy the USA are one of the worst, but do try in certain sectors, China, Russia and India make no attempt at all, so they will always be cheaper, the only way to change this will be punishment.

Ah Brussel Sprouts The quickest end to a hot first date ever? Ever played Dutch Ovens Queenie?? I'll bet she's a gas

Did you miss the start Mark???

Brilliant love him

Yea I was the same I didn't get it, but was too proud to admit it, but I googled it now I understand and it's funny

Now just you all stop that now fckrs Getting Rob to hijack his own threads

That's fine my dear, we all know you love tractors though (ploughing?), and this is the perfect place as most of us boys hate greens too, and liberals. Good to have you back and someone I know for definite is not a snowflake, make me blush gal.

True, but on the plus side a decent scanner is fairly cheap and they can find faults quickly, I find it sad about the replace don't repair for some parts, used to be fun stripping them down and repairing them. It's not just cars, most bikes after the 1980's are the same. It is amusing is that they are so sensitive now that you have the same amount of breakdowns we had before gadgetry, because a sensor fails or doesn't give the right signal to the ECU. I drove 1000 miles a week for 20 years and a particular high end make of a German car was the one I saw stopped by the side of the motorway the most. Out of boredom I took notice and began counting them, it ended up with a breakdown rate of 1.6/1 on my motorway figures compared to all other makes, give you a clue it wasn't Mercedes. We've got a few technicians in the forums, wonder what they think?

Unhealthy environment???

About the same as me, I used to keep 4 bikes and replace one a year, the one I truly regret selling was my T160 Triumph trident, a beautiful machine.

I have always worked on motorcycles, a bit on cars and at times in my life been responsible for the maintenance of dozens of large diesel engines (I love diesels), and following @TheLastColdBeer's refusal to buy a new car in a recent post, am interested in how many think like me and Beer, repair not renew? Horrifically it occurred to me that we might be considered 'green' God forbid. Now I know that there are different attitudes and needs in different countries, but in my entire lifetime I have only bought one new car, and that was a present for my wife, anyone else the same? This is not because of cost, but because I refuse to be ripped off with depreciation etc, but a problem is now appearing, I am no longer capable of doing some of the jobs, despite having thousands of pounds of tools, makes me sad. I now have to hand over the work to garages at great expense, or is it? You can keep any machine running forever against the two main enemies wear and rust, it gets more expensive the older they get, but generally this is due to parts availability. So heres my example of cheap? luxury motoring, not in the same league as @monkie's Porsche which will never be cheap, but it is nice, btw we have 3 cars between 2 people, works for us. We'll work in pounds but you can easily convert, that is if the UK is not insolvent by the time I press submit. Firstly your 'mindset' do you consider any car to be just a means of transport or do you wish to display your wealth or big balls to the ladies/neighbours?, if the latter skip this post. We are talking paying the least you can, for the best you can, it has it's risks but if you're the gambling type or the practical type you can save many thousands and still have reliable transport. By the way, because it's new does not mean it's reliable, that is why manufacturers are reluctant to issue warranties over 3 years with a couple of exceptions. I will ignore the cost of services and tyres etc as these vary widely. So here's my latest example of the many cars I've owned, supplied by a friend who owned a garage, I cannot fully bend my left leg and this car had a wide opening door and electric seats, a 2004 Mercedes S Class (facelift, important for paint reasons) 3.2 cdi straight six, so how have I done over 5 years and how much has it cost? It does not have a trace of rust on it, and I live by the sea. Purchase price (141,000 miles on the clock ) £2500 I immediately bit the bullet and did the following Refurbished set of wheels (on offer Ebay new) £400 All fluids changed, gearbox, diff, steering, brakes etc, new brakes all round, New heater matrix and Rad, and pipes, plus other work £2500 2 new level sensors at front £200 New air compressor (suspension) £300 PSE pump (central locking) £400 Total spent £6300 i.e. £1260 per year for luxury motoring, my kids are paying that in 3 months for rubbish, perhaps lucky but in my mind that's the 'way to go' PS parts for these cars are horrific, for instance being old fashioned I like a dipstick for the oil, they have a sensor no dipstick, incredibly I was quoted £150 for an OEM one, got one off Ebay for £30. The PSE pump was anything from £3000 to £1000, if you could get one, I did the job myself and had mine rebuilt for £400 with a lifetime guarantee then it doesn't need recoding. Moral of the story hunt around, it's out there. Oh by the way the car is currently valued at £2500, so if I sold it now even those costs would plummet, and no post is now complete without mentioning @Majbasil

Brilliant, sums the assholes up perfectly, Basil any comments?? I know you love a mention

Still mine

Piglo

I know, it's a beaut

@monkie can afford it, goes with his Porsche. Of course they'll have driven there in a car, they are the biggest hypocrites in the world, they'd shit themselves as cavemen, all spoilt little brats sponsored by mummy and daddy.

Just Stop Oil protesters spray paint over luxury car showroom in London (gbnews.uk) It's ORANGE

This is about Mule, not your sex life Ray, wrong forum Wow 2011? you're worse off than me and Wayne

We've missed you dear especially Rob

Don't know whether it's true or not (I don't believe all I read) but apparently people are being fined in Europe for gathering wood. The argument is that all trees are owned by private citizens or the state, therefore you are stealing? If it gets real bad you'll have to guard your garden fences, interesting admission last week that the so called 'green' bio mass fuels, now used in power stations, are more polluting than coal, don't we just love 'experts'?

Is he cutting down ??????

You are correct, there is a desperation to 'Go Green' despite the majority of the manufacturing world ignoring it entirely. They are just sitting back watching our costs rise, exports dwindle and people suffer, never mind now Gretas 19 and growing up there might be a common sense approach, ha ha.

Very honest answers, and about in line with most people (excluding Basil of course), thanks, hope your little girl is well (one of my favourites)