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dollardogg · August 9, 2011

i dont ever over clock video

BattlewolF · August 9, 2011

You can build cheaper as nightmare says and buy in netherlands is cheaper look at http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/ and 700 watt for 1 videocard is to much and use psu calculator ( google for it and you now what psu you need)

And why coolermaster psu there are cheaper psu and even good as coolermaster

And look for amd is also cheaper and good for gaming

And for 100 euro you can get 16gb mem ddr3 kingston 7-7-7

If you want to spend about 500 ore 550 euro you can build better a new system than upgrade and a 560ti you can buy for 200 euro

Look good over the internet and make your choise than

First make the choice what you want amd ore intel, than look for cpu, then coose motherboard, than mem for it, than videocard and what psu

A dvd/ rw you can get for 20 euro

And a new case , a good one you can buy for about 65 euro with cable manegment I self have here the haf x and haf plus they have big fans 200mm.

There is a lot of choice take your time for it

chavez · August 9, 2011

i've made this list (based on what you all said guys ). if ya still see a bad choice for something let me know ,we can change that .

case====> Cooler Master HAF X | RC-942-KKN1 € 154,80

psu====> Corsair Enthusiast TX750 V2 | CMPSU-750TXV2EU € 90,80

motherboard====> Asus P8P67 EVO Rev.3.0 | 90-MIBDPA-G0EAY0KZ € 149,00

processor====> Intel Core I5 2500K Boxed | BX80623I52500K € 175,00

cooler====> Noctua NH-C14 | NH-C14 € 70,10

graphic card====> MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II/OC | N560GTX-TI TWIN FROZR II/OC € 202,00

RAM====> Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 | CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 2 x 4 gig € 67,20

HDD====> Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ. 1TB | HD103SJ € 48,30

Product totaal (inc BTW): € 957,20
Exclusief BTW: € 804,37
BTW: € 152,83

Totaal: € 957,20====> 1361 usd

NightmareXI · August 9, 2011

thats pretty nice Chavez....

the case is nice....I have the HAF X 932...best case I ever had

still not sure about the Corsair PSU LOL

MB is fine ....I have the Asus Sabertooth i55

cpu ...easy oc to 4.2-4.4 Ghz 24/7

maybe change the cooler to the Noctua NH-D14....better temps on high load....at least what I have read so far

you choose the 560 TI...for sure a good card....the 560 without the TI is just a little faster like the old 460

the Corsair RAM is cool....again personal taste I prefer my G.Skill

HDD is not a big deal....most of the modern HDDs are almost equal....or again personal taste or experience....LOL

if you want the ultimate speed go for an SSD for your os like I posted before

I never wanted to spend so much money for an HDD but the higher speeds are worth it....

again just an opinion I know LOL

ChknFngr · August 9, 2011

yea if u still have a lil more money get a SSD for the OS, u'll be amazed by the speed

CplMOFO · August 9, 2011

Chavez, no need for the Noctua C14...it's a special model for narrow cases and HTPCs...

The NH-u12P, or better the NH-D14 are better suited, especially in a HAF X (sexy case btw)...

I don't like the corsair vengeance RAM, just because the heatspreaders are really high and MIGHT interfere with the cooler fan's...and I like my Gskill!!!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=57&sortby=nameAsc&subid=&mfrid=345

I have no clue of what it implies to buy from the UK and ship to Belgium tho..sry...

I know this site has a lot of stuff and a support forum to boot. It's always nice to post your proposed rig, and the lads are telling you what fits, what doesn't and what's working better....the P8P67 EVO is nice, but you can consider the PRO for a few bucks less...

Whatever floats your boat!

Oh ...BTW, I'm no ATI/AMD fanatic, but OVERCLOCKERS UK got a MSI HD6950 2GB With thetwinn frozr III cooler, power edition of the card, and it's got also a copy of DIRT 3 that comes with it...it's a little more powerful than a 560TI....

Anyway, I'm rocking my two MSI 560Ti Twin Frozr II Overclocked 880MHz in SLI and it rocks!!! Love those cards!

chavez · August 10, 2011

NightmareXI

thats pretty nice Chavez....

the case is nice....I have the HAF X 932...best case I ever had

still not sure about the Corsair PSU LOL

MB is fine ....I have the Asus Sabertooth i55

cpu ...easy oc to 4.2-4.4 Ghz 24/7

maybe change the cooler to the Noctua NH-D14....better temps on high load....at least what I have read so far

you choose the 560 TI...for sure a good card....the 560 without the TI is just a little faster like the old 460

the Corsair RAM is cool....again personal taste I prefer my G.Skill

HDD is not a big deal....most of the modern HDDs are almost equal....or again personal taste or experience....LOL

if you want the ultimate speed go for an SSD for your os like I posted before

I never wanted to spend so much money for an HDD but the higher speeds are worth it....

again just an opinion I know LOL

tnx again night for the info ,

- for what i have read about the Noctua NH-D14 ,that cooler does not support the 1155 processor socket.

Technische details

Compatibiliteit Intel LGA1366, LGA1156, LGA775 & AMD AM2, AM2+, AM3

Materiaal Aluminium & copper

Rotatiesnelheid 1200/1300 RPM

Bearing technology SSO

Supported processor sockets Socket 1366

Productlevensduur 150000 h

Luchtcirculatie 110,3 / 92,3 m3/

- for the SSD , that's expensive for 128 gb, lol, how may drives do i need for all stuff here on my pc .

- for the videocard i will give it a try with this gtx560 ti/oc , i saw some benchmark test and this card

have good results .

- for the psu i will take the enermax to please you ,lol j/k night .

the enermax is also good for me too , you have more experience with these things .

tnx again for the time you take to check my list.

chavez · August 10, 2011

CplMOFO

Chavez, no need for the Noctua C14...it's a special model for narrow cases and HTPCs...

The NH-u12P, or better the NH-D14 are better suited, especially in a HAF X (sexy case btw)...

I don't like the corsair vengeance RAM, just because the heatspreaders are really high and MIGHT interfere with the cooler fan's...and I like my Gskill!!!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=57&sortby=nameAsc&subid=&mfrid=345

I have no clue of what it implies to buy from the UK and ship to Belgium tho..sry...

I know this site has a lot of stuff and a support forum to boot. It's always nice to post your proposed rig, and the lads are telling you what fits, what doesn't and what's working better....the P8P67 EVO is nice, but you can consider the PRO for a few bucks less...

Whatever floats your boat!

Oh ...BTW, I'm no ATI/AMD fanatic, but OVERCLOCKERS UK got a MSI HD6950 2GB With thetwinn frozr III cooler, power edition of the card, and it's got also a copy of DIRT 3 that comes with it...it's a little more powerful than a 560TI....

Anyway, I'm rocking my two MSI 560Ti Twin Frozr II Overclocked 880MHz in SLI and it rocks!!! Love those cards!

we have another Gskill fan here , no problem i'm gonna change my list and order the Gskill Ram.

it's possible that i gonna buy a second videocard ( but a lil bit later because my wife is gonna kill me if i buy a second one now.)

for the MB , is the pro better than the evo ??

tnx you too MOFO for the time you take .

ChknFngr · August 10, 2011

mmm im not sure about the noctua not supporting the 1155 socket, might have to investigate.

for the ssd, u dont have to buy more than one.

its just the main drive, that will host only your OS and all drivers and some program u may want to run fast.

and then u get a normal HD for all kind of storage u want

seriously, the ssd is amazing, its like day and night for speed.

when u first use a ssd, u feel like its the right speed for everything, and u dont want to go back to a normal one.

u gona spend a lot of money on a rig, i really advise you to get a ssd, trust us, its just amazing.

im also using gskill ram, no problem at all with it.

for the normal HD, u chose samsung, for my part i would have get a western digital caviar black, but yea its like green or red apples, everyone piuck a color and may be happy with it or not.

oh and btw, if u gona buy it online, im using http://www.materiel.net that one is in france, but very good products and nice support, and in germany u got lot of stores like caseking.de, alternate.de or alternate.be, hiq24.de

those are cheaper than what u can get in belgium

CplMOFO · August 10, 2011

MOFO digs Western digital Black for storage.....

SSDs are pretty awesome too...jeez too much shiny stuff to grab!!!!!!!!!!

Easy one here....1155 is EXACTLY like 1156...also, NH-D14 is the most popular heatsink for Sandybridge overclocking..you can google nh-d14 on 1155

This is the latest from the NOCTUA's site, off the NH-D14 specs.

SecuFirm2™ multi-socket mounting system
Noctua’s enthusiast grade SecuFirm2™ multi-socket mounting provides broad socket compatibility (LGA1366, LGA1156, LGA1155, LGA775, AM2, AM2+, AM3, AM3+, FM1) and meets the highest demands in safety, contact pressure and ease-of-use.

Here is a pic of an NH-D14 on a ASUS P67 (socket 1155) motherboard, the SABERTOOTH, in a HAF X case... note the MSI videocard, with the TFII cooler (GTX580 is this case... the 560Ti is just a little shorter and CHEAPER lol)

for the motherboard, on the ASUS side, it's a matter of feature..the PRO is a few bucks less that the EVO...just check at the features

I own the DELUXE and it's a nice board, FULL of features (i'll never use the bluetooth thingy tho...), but that being said, feature you don't need, you don't want to pay for...a PRO is already really good. The EVO and the deluxe go up in price, and the WS being the most expensive....

It's important to cut a few $$$ on useless stuff (useless to you I mean), to invest it in what matters...FRAMES PER SECOND!!!

If you want to up the ante a little, the MSI GTX570 TFIII power edition is a beast...The Asus DirectcuII GTX570 (triple slot tho...big focker) is also good....but you won't be able to SLI later if you pick a triple-slot ASUS 570...

Man you got the choicE!!!!!!

How is the UK pricing for you anyway? Is it a lot more expensive to you if you add shipping and customs???

ChknFngr · August 10, 2011

uk is way expensive for us belgians. shipping is killing it

germany and france is cheaper. usually germany is a lil cheaper

CplMOFO · August 10, 2011

KK, good to know...this is the closest thing I could find...

My rig for reference:

Cabling job a little messy...

-2500K OCed to 4.5GHz

-Noctua NH-u12P

-Asus P8P67 Deluxe

-2 X 4GB of Gskill RIPJAWS X 1.5volts

-2 x MSI GTX560Ti TFII OC in SLI

-XFX 850 watts Black edition 80 plus SILVER certification single rail 70 amps

-1 X SSD OCZ Vertex 120GB (still really fast, but newer are even faster!!!!)

-1 X Western Digital Black 640GB for storage

My Case is a Coolermaster ATCS840 full ATX...

NightmareXI · August 10, 2011

looks like you have a lot of good advice here now

Mofo just went through building a new rig and he uses some parts you are looking for

the SSD part is well explained now I think....they are expensive but...

I am using a lot proggis in the background and most of the them are loaded at sys startup

still my SYS starts up in 10 seconds because of the SSD....if you have one you never want to go back to a usual HDD

all my personal data is outsourced to my usual HDD ....like videos and pics and stuff....

feel free to ask for help with the setup....Mofo and CHKN are using SSDs and so I do....wont be a big deal...

dont get me wrong with the PSU....Mofo has a XFX and I dont like this brand this much at PSUs

but looks like it works fine there

I love them at video cards....a few stated they dont like Enermax...bad experience and stuff

if you had trouble with this or that you wont suggest it anymore

like I posted earlier some experience and some personal taste

but one thing with the RAM....Mofo is right with the hight of the heatspreaders of some RAMs

I had this issue here with my Prolimatech Mega Shadow and thats why I bought my G.Skill Ripjaws in the first place

have a closer look there

if you want to have a look at my sys : Nightmares RIG

regards (:

CplMOFO · August 10, 2011

Nightmare,

your rig is pretty nice...I dig the Acceleros and the ENERMAX PSU, they look great

On the XFX power supply side, no hurt done...it's when you research the particular models that you learn the truth..

My XFX 850 black ed. is in fact a rebranded SEASONIC 850 M12D powersuppply. It's one of the best 850 watts on the market...only bad is the lime-green fan blades, but I don't seen that, it's underneath...

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=165

TSW8.5 got one also, his is not-modular, but it's the same Seasonic internals...

When I look for a PSU, i look at jonnyguru's reviews, he's the most knowledgeable power supply reviewer...he 'strips PSU apart, and analyse it's components. He owns the expensive PSU load tester and he created the HOT BOX test to rate the powersupplies at 50 degrees celsius, to check if manufacturers are lying on the their specs...

So, the question is always..who MANUFACTURED the powersupply and how, more than who sells it under their name...

ChknFngr · August 10, 2011

thing is the noctua is a beast, it needs space, so i agree with the others, get the gskills ripjaws as those can fit under the noctua.

actually the fan sit right above the ram slots, so u cant install big fat ram heatsinks.

NightmareXI · August 10, 2011

CplMOFO

Nightmare,

your rig is pretty nice...I dig the Acceleros and the ENERMAX PSU, they look great

On the XFX power supply side, no hurt done...it's when you research the particular models that you learn the truth..

My XFX 850 black ed. is in fact a rebranded SEASONIC 850 M12D powersuppply. It's one of the best 850 watts on the market...only bad is the lime-green fan blades, but I don't seen that, it's underneath...

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=165

TSW8.5 got one also, his is not-modular, but it's the same Seasonic internals...

When I look for a PSU, i look at jonnyguru's reviews, he's the most knowledgeable power supply reviewer...he 'strips PSU apart, and analyse it's components. He owns the expensive PSU load tester and he created the HOT BOX test to rate the powersupplies at 50 degrees celsius, to check if manufacturers are lying on the their specs...

So, the question is always..who MANUFACTURED the powersupply and how, more than who sells it under their name...

ya I think my rig is not this bad LOL and thanks for the compliments buddy....

at least its all I need to play my favourite games like Crysis on highest settings with almost 100fps

I hope we are not high-jacking this topic now LMAO

btw the link you posted with this jonnyguru reviews is really new to me...but I will have a closer look....thanks for that...

but most of the people dont know this much about hardware....agreed?

they buy stuff because of the name and maybe if it looks cool LOL

many companys dont produce their own products they just put a lable on it

so you dont know what you get sometimes...

takes a lot of time to read all of the reviews tests and stuff

for sure I know you did your homework

BTT now....sorry chavez LOL

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