I could use some support from my family XI

[Super Max]

I live in an artificially induced earthquake area.

We have a facebook page about it.

Want to support us in the fight against the NAM and our government than happy to like this page my family.

Thank you on behalf of the people of my province

 

https://www.facebook.com/financielecompensatie

[Super Max]

[eidolonFIRE]

Fracking?

[DuckyofDeath123]

No, just drilling for natural gas. The Netherlands is an OPEC country (pub trivia points there) and a lot of the gas is underneath built-up bits.

They're not so happy up north, but the rest of the country gets cheap gas.

[Super Max]

Yes, and it will soon become expensive gas as the people in the north are not taken seriously. Let me say it gently boiling point is not far away.

We are here to pay the price because of damage to our homes in the north.

[JohnnyQuest]

what about the great hadron collider....they are trying to create their own universe...the adverse affect of that will make the earth implode.....fucking stooges....they are looking for a God gene....apparantly....wtf is the world coming to ....this thing [hadron collider] is about ten football fields ...huge underground production....eventually you will see this world fucked by it's own people,,,whatever you do don't spend the money on people that are poor and homeless...spend billions on a machine that is expected to make it's own universe...or blow it up...they don't know what exactly what will happen when they fire this thing up....God gene...imagine..what a place we live in

Edited December 5, 2013 by JohnnyQuest

[Super Max]

http://roelart.cartodb.com/viz/a4416402-5380-11e3-b820-c51311935c5c/embed_map?title=true&description=true&search=false&shareable=false&cartodb_logo=true&layer_selector=false&legends=true&scrollwheel=true&sublayer_options=1&sql&sw_lat=52.86622823519633&sw_lon=5.60028076171875&ne_lat=53.48436844872843&ne_lon=7.90740966796875

When you wait you see it is like a dico 

Edited December 5, 2013 by Hans

[JohnnyQuest]

we have our oil sands here..enough to last us forever basically...the problem is no refineries....and every time a new refinary comes online another one blows up...go figure?,,,,gouging us always...yesterday gas here was 1.13 per litre...today it's 1.25 per litre...if i put my labour price up from 60 bucks an hour to 72 bucks an hour over night,,,there would be quite a few people quite disgruntled to say the least..and probably shop elsewhere .....this will all end someday as the people will only stand for so much.....but it boils down to the whole as a people say we have had enough....but i highly doubt it...we just keep on paying and forging out a living...poor truckers have really taken it in the rectum....it really adds up when you drive for a living...cockroach government...deisel is now more than normal gas which has never been.. since i was a kid.

[Labob]

LOL I assure you truckers do not pay the huge price of fuel. Everybody else does though. As for new refineries From what I read Canada cannot build any because of the free trade act with the States. Canada is trying to reverse 1 pipe line to get Alberta crude to our existing refiner's but it getting meet with a lot of resistance. So right now Alberta crude is being railed out in tankers and  trucked out now everybody's paying huge transportation costs for that. So if you wish the problem is truly poor planning and the government has to get its hands out of the management side of thing. Last if you want the real sad part of this. Its cheaper to use OPEC oil then our own oil but then again its cheaper to use american electricity made in Canada in Canada love the government .

[Super Max]

The inhabitants of the province are starting to write us.

Statehood and separate from Netherlands.

Netherlands has long been the looting of our natural gas.

The government and the royal family with the NAM have already benefited enough from our misery

 

 

[DEEJAYKEG]

Sorry I don't speak Dutch - it is the one language to which I admitted defeat...

But, yes, it looks like fracking-related protests that have recently occurred in response to

an exploratory project in a neighbouring county here.

Personally, I think it needs careful assessment given the experiences of residents in the USA

where it is more commonplace.

 

As for mobilising support against established drilling in another sovereign state, good luck with that.

Without wishing to politicise your thread, I don't see this is anyone's business outside the Netherlands.

I suggest you pursue your arguments using the democratic systems available within your country, Hans.

[Astronomer]

what about the great hadron collider....they are trying to create their own universe...the adverse affect of that will make the earth implode.....fucking stooges....they are looking for a God gene....apparantly....wtf is the world coming to ....this thing [hadron collider] is about ten football fields ...huge underground production....eventually you will see this world fucked by it's own people,,,whatever you do don't spend the money on people that are poor and homeless...spend billions on a machine that is expected to make it's own universe...or blow it up...they don't know what exactly what will happen when they fire this thing up....God gene...imagine..what a place we live in

 

WTF indeed...! The Hadron collider will not create new universes nor will it destroy the earth. It just smashes subatomic particles together at very high energies in order to let us understand the nature of physics and conditions present at the time of the "Big Bang" 13.7 billion years ago . It's 27km (17 miles) in diameter and is a marvel of engineering. It's recently proved that the "Higgs Boson" and therefore the Higgs field exists, which confirms that the standard model of physics is accurate. This is pure and fundamental science: Exploring the nature of reality. How will it impact our lives? Who knows? I do know that one discovery of a subatomic particle has changed all of our lives: The electron, well over a century ago.

 

To point to anything (particularly fundamental scientific research) and say "Why spend money on this and not <insert cause here>" is specious. Point to war and the military industrial complex if you want to point to an area of massive spending, waste, and fraud. If anything, science needs more funding not less. The discoveries made by pure research has and will enrich our lives in so many ways. Think of X-rays to let doctors and surgeons see where and how a bone is broken. Penicillin. vaccinations. electricity to the home. The number of inventions that came out NASA that we use every day is amazing: Invisible braces, scratch resistant eye lenses, memory foam, ear thermometer, shoe insoles, long-distance telecommunications, adjustable smoke detector, safety grooves on runways and roads, LED's, thermal blankets, improved radial tires, chemical detectors, fire resistant materials, freeze drying, water purification systems, solar cells, pollution control devices, powdered lubricants, MRI for medical use, quartz clocks, teflon, velcro...

Edited December 7, 2013 by Astronomer

[JohnnyQuest]

what about the earths magnetic core?,,,,,no one  for sure knows the adverse affects of it....so lets keep our fingers crossed

[Astronomer]

what about the earths magnetic core?,,,,,no one  for sure knows the adverse affects of it....so lets keep our fingers crossed

 

Not sure what you mean, but Earth's core is believed, and is very likely, to be a large core of molten iron. Because it is liquid metal, it rotates at a different speed than the rest of the planet, essentially creating a dynamo which creates the planet's magnetic field. There's no mystery or adverse effects possible there. The Large Hadron Collider will have absolutely no effect on it whatsoever. That's not a guess. That's science.

Edited December 8, 2013 by Astronomer

[Super Max]

Sorry I don't speak Dutch - it is the one language to which I admitted defeat...

But, yes, it looks like fracking-related protests that have recently occurred in response to

an exploratory project in a neighbouring county here.

Personally, I think it needs careful assessment given the experiences of residents in the USA

where it is more commonplace.

 

As for mobilising support against established drilling in another sovereign state, good luck with that.

Without wishing to politicise your thread, I don't see this is anyone's business outside the Netherlands.

I suggest you pursue your arguments using the democratic systems available within your country, Hans.

Sometimes democracy does not work.

Good example 90 percent would limit controll back to the east, but it is not listening.

Democracy is not sacred as the government goes against the wishes of the people

[JohnnyQuest]

Not sure what you mean, but Earth's core is believed, and is very likely, to be a large core of molten iron. Because it is liquid metal, it rotates at a different speed than the rest of the planet, essentially creating a dynamo which creates the planet's magnetic field. There's no mystery or adverse effects possible there. The Large Hadron Collider will have absolutely no effect on it whatsoever. That's not a guess. That's science.

Im sorry if i rubbed this post the wrong way Astronomer....but i just figure that the monies could be used in a ton of more productive area's.i would like to know what applications would use such technology....and how it could help my fellow man...instead of maybe this and maybe that,,,the accomplishments would be?,,,just wondering...once they discover whatever they are looking for...what are they going to do with it.,,,make a new weapon?,,or help the human race?,,,how could this event benefit us,and why..i don't consider myself by far any type of genius,,i just don't see what this event will accomplish...actually these events are somewhat scary to me...the last time i heard very likely to...i had half of my face cut off due to skin cancer...my doctor said it's very likely that it is not carcinoma....five procedures later and a lot of plastic surgery i went to him and said ...stick to being a doctor not a fortune teller....