I stand corrected... I am allowed to be wrong.

[Sammy]

Indisputable proof that 9/11 is an inside job.

 

[little_old_man]

Sorry Hxtr but I agree with DJ. Who took the picture and when. Firemen were at the site for weeks after the towers fell gathering body parts and putting out hot spots. The beams may have been cut to get them out of the way for the firemen.  You're assuming that the picture was taken within a day or two of the towers falling, but like DJ says there are tons of manipulated pictures out there and I always look at pics such as these with a skeptical eye.  Even if that one angle cut beam was blown up with thermite it would not look like that. Anybody who has even a basic knowledge of torch cutting/welding can tell that a cutting torch did that, not an explosion that could have sheered it in a millisecond. There wouldn't be all of the hot drip marks from an explosive cut.

[hxtr]

I guess I can rest now that everything is hunky dory. I am glad No conspiracies have ever happened on US soil.

[Hemps]

Lets go back to the 4' thick non-rusty piece of Iron that looks like it was cut with thermite. Did the wind cause that to cut like that? How windy was it on ground zero. Or are we still not sure that cut Iron was that way or not before the building came down?

500,000 tons fell and when you get that much force going lots of things can happen, even melting steel or vaporizing it even, shearing a piece of iron would be nothing in something like that.

and  where did that piece came from exactly, do they know?  most likely not, only thing they got is a piece of steel that looks like it was cut. but of course that could never happen when 500,000 tons of building comes crashing down....

and agree with dy and lom, it could of happened after in the clean up

Edited October 3, 2014 by Hemps

[hxtr]

Then Explain Building 7. Read this off FEMA's website. How did WTC7 fall.... a fire? What motion brought this one down?

 

 

http://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/20130726-1512-20490-2227/403_ch5.pdf

http://www.fema.gov/media-library/assets/documents/3544

 

BTW Fema just happened to show up that day...

Edited October 3, 2014 by hxtr

[hxtr]

Check this out... kind of long. Well so is the amount of information available.

 

Whey would the families of the victimizes back in 2006 wan a new investigation?

 

and Tom Daschle who I don't like was asked by Cheney and Bush to NOT investigate 911. humm

[little_old_man]

I can't explain Bldg 7 Hxtr, and I'm not trying to. But we're not talking about building 7, we're talking about the picture you posted. It could have been taken at Bldg 7, or WTC 1 or 2 or a fucking bridge demolition in Utah. Without somebody taking credit for the photo and telling us what it is and when it was taken it's all speculation.

 

As I've said numerous times before, Americans are a spiteful bunch and for there to be a conspiracy of this magnitude there would literally have to be thousands of people involved and every single one of them keeping this secret. And out of those thousands of people there isn't a single one of them who can't sleep at night because of guilt at all of those deaths and decides to spill the beans just to get back at an old supervisor or somebody in power? Besides all of the dead at WTC we also have to consider the people who died in the planes and the speculation of it being a missile and not a jet that hit the pentagon. If that's the case where is the plane and the people who where on it? How did the pentagon plane which by the way was watched on radar all the way to the pentagon get taken off radar and switched with a missile in the seconds before impact?

 

One big conspiracy? I don't fucking think so. I'm done wasting time on this.

[hxtr]

holly shit.. they are all the same LOM. All the same day. You can't pick and choose what facts to omit.

 

It is a collection of information..... not just from 911.

Edited October 3, 2014 by hxtr

[hxtr]

Next you are going to tell me FEMA camps don't exist. Shall I start a new topic. lol

[Hemps]

building 7 fell because they didn't fight the fire like they could of before they lost all them firemen , they just tried to make sure it was cleared of people and left it to burn. it was a loss they where willing to make after the towers fell.

[hxtr]

We are starting over again. A fire has never brought down a building ever until that day. 3 came down from a fire.

 

How did WTC 1 and 2 and 7 fall at the speed of free fall? Meaning there was zero resistance. Explain that.

[Sammy]

building 7 fell because they didn't fight the fire like they could of before they lost all them firemen , they just tried to make sure it was cleared of people and left it to burn. it was a loss they where willing to make after the towers fell.

Yea that is what I remember also. It was too badly damaged to be saved so they just made sure it didnt spread.

[Hemps]

We are starting over again. A fire has never brought down a building ever until that day. 3 came down from a fire.

 

How did WTC 1 and 2 and 7 fall at the speed of free fall? Meaning there was zero resistance. Explain that.

There were a lot of firsts for the WTC. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been hit with a plane traveling 500 miles an hour and had its fire proofing removed from it's trusses. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever had its steel columns which hold lateral load sheared off by a 767. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been a building which had its vertical load bearing columns in its core removed by an airliner. For Building 7, in all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been left for 6-7 hours with its bottom floors on fire with structural damage from another building collapse. In all the history of high-rise fires, not one has ever been without some fire fighters fighting the fires.

[Sammy]

Oh and you dont need permission to be wrong. You are free to be wrong whenever you want without the need to be allowed to first.

[hxtr]

hahaha I was going to say but decided not to....

 

I won't mind you guys being wrong as long you don't mine me being right.

[CobraBites]

Your problem is that you have no context into which to place that photo.

There's no date, time, location or other information about it.  One cannot even be

sure that it actually comes from New York!  I have seen so many manipulated photos

that I don't trust them as factual any more.

 

Face up to the fact that there is not a shred of evidence that supports the nonsensical fantasies.

 

We all know who murdered those poor people and how it was done.

yea our government....just saying....lol....

[Leadfinger]

There had to be a lot more combustible material in this building. I'm no expert but steel doesn't burn like this.

That building is almost entirely engulfed in flames.

Also note: the steel in that building is probably not American steel.

 

try if for yourself  . . buy some steel and weld up a scaled down version of a building fill it with paper and insulation cover it in jet fuel and light it up.

 

Once the jet fuel burned up in the towers there should have still been a building left even if it was just a skeleton.

 

 

National Geographic Channel screened an informative documentary over here recently explaining the physics of the collapse.

Jet fuel doesn't burn steel but the extreme heat does weaken it to the point that it is no longer able to support the weight of

the floors above it.  As they fell, there was a piledriver effect.

 

The complete absence of any residual demolition materials from the scene is also highly compelling in itself.

 

That everything took place on live TV also provides indisputable evidence of what occurred.

 

Why do they call people who cling to fantasies "truthers" anyway??

Just to be clear I am not a Conspiracy Theorist.

 

The first part of my comment was about the building in the video

 

The "Do it yourself" part of my comment stands for itself.

After the jet fuel has burned all the paper and insulation up a steel skeleton will remain . . .it's ability to support any given weight would be open to investigation     . . . . .let me know your findings I'll have a beer. 

 

To clarify the last line

Based on what I have seen of steel buildings that have been engulfed in flames and the fire extinguished there was almost always a steel skeleton standing.

I never thought this was an inside job but i was curious as to why there wasn't any steel standing 

The Pile Driver effect is a reasonable explanation for the absence of any skeletal remains of the WTC buildings

 

I have been schooled

 

(Oh in case you are wondering the United States did in fact put men on the moon)  

[hxtr]

Lead... their ain't no damn Moon.