djMot

@@Icequeen - you got me off on a tangent again.  I love Mandy Moore!

https://soundcloud.com/audreyxofficial/never-gonna-leave

Try as I might, there's apparently no way to embed the soundcloud player  

Scratch one in 2017.  Hope it's not like 2016.  We lost a lot of great people in 2016.  

@@BigPapaDean without a doubt @@Sammy has the best advice in this thread: 

 

 

I have to say that I do disagree with @@djMot on his first post, especially as it is hugely more complex than the article that is linked to suggests. I also disagree with @@hxtr on his views on Microsoft and updating in general. But the question of 'who is right?' and who in general to believe? well that's not such a simple answer. 

 

I am not going to pretend that I have the credentials to give proper advice on this but in my humble opinion you are all trying to fit a single solution into something that requires a multitude of options. The evolution of both operating systems, application software and hardware has been because of the wide variety of PC users and how they are using them. The same goes for antivirus solutions. If I am doing lots of browsing of random websites and downloading from them then  I want an AV that is doing full behavioural scanning which is a bit more resource intensive. Or if all I do is play a couple of games, visit a few websites and do some email then Defender would be OK for me.

 

Like you, @Sitting- , I browse to lots of places on the Internet.  I only use Defender because there is no one more qualified to protect the operating system than the operating system author itself.  The article I posted a link to further links out to other articles which, in total, illustrates the frustration browser authors experience at the hand of AV vendors that step in and disable the protection mechanisms they have baked into their browsers.  This increases the attack surface available to cybercriminals.  

With headlines like "Symantec calls antivirus 'doomed' as security giants fight for survival," and Google browser engineers tweeting out "You misunderstand your own ignorance. AV is my single biggest impediment to shipping a secure browser," I'm inclined to stop throwing good money after bad.

YMMV.  Everyone is always free to spend whatever they like on AV.  As always, your money, your choice.  

All of you that think you are somehow "safe" on windows 7, I hope you realize MS is slowly integrating all the same things into 7 that scare you so much in 10. 

No.  Support for Win7, other than security updates, ended over a year ago.  No feature development or phone support.

LOL!

 

Fake News!

NOT

you are so full of it... Defender??? hahahhaaha

 

ZoneAlarm kicks the shit out of it. 

 

Anyone who uses Windows 10 puts them self at risk. My 7 compared to your 10... mine is much more secure and blazing fast on a SSD. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA   omg.  too funny.     

On all of my home computers I've been saying no to Win10 forever. Now they're making it impossible to use certain sites unless I do the update, otherwise I just use Firefox. He'll I can't even post on XI using IE. YouTube won't let me watch video using my older version of IE.

Making it impossible to use certain sites?  What sites?  You mean the ones running requiring Adobe Flash player?  It's been long understood that Flash is an over-exploited technology and should be retired.  Sadly, it sometimes takes a forcing function to push that kind of wrecking ball into motion.  However, this is NOT a Windows 10 issue.

Let's be perfectly clear about another thing here.  While I absolutely love and support Windows 10, I am far from taking a position that Microsoft can do no wrong.  Internet Explorer is the prime example of a MAJOR piece of indispensable software - the web browser - that Microsoft has fucked up so badly I should think it would be an embarrassment to them.  Well, I guess it sort of was since they started over with Edge.  But so far, it's a POS, too.  Google Chrome, on the other hand embraces the newest and safest technologies only.  You can't run Flash on Chrome, but YouTube works just fine in Chrome using the HTML5 media engine, which is a part of the HTML5 specification, btw.  Everyone needs to go this direction.  So far, Firefox lets you make an exception and run Flash anyway.  Not ideal, but at least they have started to initially block it before letting you shoot yourself in the foot with it.

Why is IE such a POS?  Because Microsoft never followed the standards, apparently believing they were above all that.  In the meantime, browsers like Firefox and Chrome fully adhered to the standards.  Web developers, faced with following the standards (as they should) or pandering to Microsoft's abomination (which still has a seriously large market share since it comes with Windows and people who don't know better blindly believe it must be a great browser) came up with hacks to force IE into some sort of normal behavior using special CSS directives like:

<!--[if lte IE 7]>

which means, "if the version of this browser is less than or equal to (lte) IE version 7, then override the normal style sheet and use the following one instead."  And by the way, I copied that snippet of code from THIS website.

Anyway, point is.  This thread is about Antivirus programs, not dated and dangerous browser technologies.  Just trying to shed some light on that distinction.  

And for the record, being a long-standing lover of Firefox, I have recently made the decision to make the move to Chrome as my daily driver due to its superior speed and the way it sandboxes each browser tab thereby stabilizing the browsing environment.  And that's not to mention its transparency in letting you know what extensions are gaining access to when you install them so you are at least going in eyes-wide-open.  Chrome is not without its faults, but I'm coming to grips with what I must do to enjoy a faster, safer, and more stable internet experience.

Ditch your Antivirus program UNLESS it's Microsoft Defender.  

No one, and I mean NO ONE knows how to protect Windows better than Microsoft themselves.  

If you have not upgraded past at least 8.1 (and what the fuck are you waiting for?), read the last paragraph of this article, otherwise, time to face some cold hard facts.  Your non-Microsoft AV program is absolutely putting you at greater risk.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/ex-top-mozilla-dev-to-windows-users-ditch-all-antivirus-except-microsofts-defender/