wildbill72 Posted May 8, 2011 Member ID: 1624 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 22 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 669 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 558 Achievement Points: 5061 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/29/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 4, 2020 Birthday: 04/01/1972 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Greetings fellow idiots,I'm planning a new build in a couple of weeks when i'll finally have all my parts but the last part to the jigsaw is....Which Ram to get?To me ram is ram but when you read into it its a minefield,compatibility with mobo,speed,timings etc.Its got me baffled.And my brain hurts with all the reading lol...So i thought i'd ask you guys and maybe someone can shed a little light on the subject. The build im doing is as follows....Coolermaster storm scout case Phenom x6 1100t Asus crosshair IV mobo Xfx 750watt Black psu Coolermaster V8 cpu cooler WD 2tb Green (storage) Ocz Vertex 2 60Gb ssd Evga gtx 570 Any old disc drive i can lay my hands on ??????ram???????? What are the options to consider when buying ram,I know faster will be better but what about timings,is lower better or vica versa? Thanks Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
dawgy Posted May 8, 2011 Member ID: 179 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 27 Topic Count: 96 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1054 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 367 Achievement Points: 6817 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 17 Birthday: 12/07/1981 Device: iPhone Share Posted May 8, 2011 here is the ram i run... and i am very happy with it... dont know to much about ram just know this shit works great for me!! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220464&cm_re=sector_5-_-20-220-464-_-Product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
NightmareXI Posted May 8, 2011 Member ID: 68 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 44 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2709 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 132 Achievement Points: 14854 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 20, 2022 Birthday: 04/13/1969 Share Posted May 8, 2011 have a look at this one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314 the ripjaws series is pretty fast....using it for almost a year now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bama Posted May 8, 2011 Member ID: 19 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 101 Topic Count: 318 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4444 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 2763 Achievement Points: 29399 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 11 Birthday: 02/29/1968 Device: iPhone Share Posted May 8, 2011 NightmareXI have a look at this one... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314 the ripjaws series is pretty fast....using it for almost a year now +1 That is good ram. I have the same CPU and Mobo that you are going to use, and that ram should do you great. I am running with a different set of G.skill, but I don't think you will see any difference. I just got mine because it was CAS 6 instead of CAS 9 (but the same amount (8 gigs) will cost you almost double what nightmare has suggested) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bama Posted May 8, 2011 Member ID: 19 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 101 Topic Count: 318 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4444 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 2763 Achievement Points: 29399 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 11 Birthday: 02/29/1968 Device: iPhone Share Posted May 8, 2011 Here are also some links to Crosshair IV formula and AMD CPU 'fan' sites: http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/682489-official-asus-crosshair-iv-formula-extreme.html http://forums.amd.com/forum/categories.cfm?catid=318&entercat=y http://www.overclock.net/amd-general/525113-phenom-ii-overclocking-guide.html I found some useful information on both of these sites. You can read for hours. BACK TO YOUR QUESTION... on OC board, there is a pretty cool (although a bit dated) article on memory selection. It is what started me digging a bit deeper for making the right choice on ram. Hope you find it useful, or at least interesting. http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/682489-official-asus-crosshair-iv-formula-extreme-704.html#post12092773 Just remember, although the 'Qualified Vendor List' for your Mobo may or may not list a particular model of RAM.. it doesn't mean it won't work well with your Mobo.. it just means they didn't test that model with your mobo. My RAM isn't listed in the QVL, but it works beautifully. In fact, I've 'heard' that ASUS mobo's have had problems with Gskill memory.. but I've had nothing but good results from the several different models of Gskill RAM I've used in several different ASUS mobo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
wildbill72 Posted May 9, 2011 Member ID: 1624 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 22 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 669 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 558 Achievement Points: 5061 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/29/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 4, 2020 Birthday: 04/01/1972 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thanks guys thats really given me something to consider,i've been looking at those g-skill Nightmare ive also been looking at Corsair Vengeance but after reading a few forums people seem to be deciding more on G-skill,These are what ive recently been checking out, http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr3ram/8gbgskillsniperpc312800cl9dualkit.html Great links Bama especially the one that lists the set ups on the mobo gonna spend some time reading those,just 1 question why cas6 instead of cas9?Thats the thing i cant get my head around the timings...........More research needed me thinks but thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
NightmareXI Posted May 9, 2011 Member ID: 68 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 44 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2709 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 132 Achievement Points: 14854 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 20, 2022 Birthday: 04/13/1969 Share Posted May 9, 2011 wildbill72 just 1 question why cas6 instead of cas9?Thats the thing i cant get my head around the timings...........More research needed me thinks but thanks again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency LOL its not all about timings and latency ....but lower timings and latency is part of a fast RAM and for sure the MHZ of the RAM mine are running pretty fast now because its double channel its means they are running at 1900 Mhz its not this important for gaming at all but if you work a lot with pic and video editing you will like fast RAM the RAM Preview at Adobe After Effects works a lot better edit: btw the sniper G.skill RAM is okay....same speeds like the ripjaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Bama Posted May 10, 2011 Member ID: 19 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 101 Topic Count: 318 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4444 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 2763 Achievement Points: 29399 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 11 Birthday: 02/29/1968 Device: iPhone Share Posted May 10, 2011 Everything Nightmare said is dead on. That is why I said you probably wouldn't see the difference in the gskill memory he mentioned and the model I mentioned. If you are building a purely gaming (or mostly gaming) rig.. the timing isn't as important as the Frequency. I had a little more money for my memory, and chose to get a little better 'edge' in timing with the CAS 6. If you would like to do some 'light' reading on memory, I would also suggest this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/55024-30-memory-please-read-posting It's simplistic but informative, and has some good links and suggested reads at the bottom too. The links I've given you, as you have seen, could keep you busy for a very long time. I hope you enjoy them and find them useful. Keep us posted on your build. BTW.. a lesson I learned the hard way.. if you ever expect to run in sLi mode or crossfire with 2 graphics cards.. if you can afford it.. go ahead and get a 1000watt powersupply. I lost money on a 750 that I had to return because I figured out after I ordered it that I needed minimum 950 to run 2 5800 series cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
NightmareXI Posted May 10, 2011 Member ID: 68 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 44 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2709 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 132 Achievement Points: 14854 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 20, 2022 Birthday: 04/13/1969 Share Posted May 10, 2011 PT-Bama BTW.. a lesson I learned the hard way.. if you ever expect to run in sLi mode or crossfire with 2 graphics cards.. if you can afford it.. go ahead and get a 1000watt powersupply. I lost money on a 750 that I had to return because I figured out after I ordered it that I needed minimum 950 to run 2 5800 series cards. the PSU section is the most forgotten part of a pc....well said Bama LOL but its the same there...its not all about watts you have to have a look at the max amperes at the +12V rails....this is the most important part for SLI or CF there are many less efficient PSUs for a little amount of money... but in worst case you will have to deal with BSODs and crashes a lot.... I use Enermax for a long time now....expensive LOL almost 200 bucks but really happy with it my 850 watts PSU can handle 3 6970s in triple CF( 35 A on each +12 V rail) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
wildbill72 Posted May 11, 2011 Member ID: 1624 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 22 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 669 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 558 Achievement Points: 5061 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/29/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 4, 2020 Birthday: 04/01/1972 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 I think ive narrowed the choice of ram down to either the Gskill ripjaws or the sniper series of which i particularly like the look of with the gun heat shield and the black pcb,should look pretty cool against the red and black Crosshair,probably a 2 x 4 gig kit 1600Mhz which will also give me the option of adding more at a later date if needed.Its not primarily a gaming rig cos i'll be using it for everyday stuff graphics and the like,which my present machine struggles to keep up with(Athlon quad DDR2 GTS 250)So i thought its time for a change. As far as the psu's concerned ive already made my choice for that and purchased the XFX 750 Black Edition,it were either a toss up between that 1 or the corsair 750 watt but decide on the XFX after reading that there more or less a re-label seasonic psu,and ive heard nothing but praise for thier psu's.It should be ample enough power for my needs on a single card set up. Just cant wait to get started on it now,gonna sheath the cases front I/O panel cables this weekend before i do any thing else,like to keep a tidy house lol.Will keep you posted on the progress,might start a new thread "Wildbill's expensive toaster"lol Again thanks for the input really appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
google Posted May 11, 2011 Member ID: 1270 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 149 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3861 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 4542 Achievement Points: 34156 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/22/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18 Birthday: 04/12/1969 Device: Windows Share Posted May 11, 2011 CROSSHAIR IV FORMULA Memory Qualified Vendors List (QVL): http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/Crosshair_IV_Formula/#MSL http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM3/Crosshair_IV_Formula/C4F_Memory_QVL20100726.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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