xCaliber Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 142 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 30 Topic Count: 277 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1986 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 13866 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 25, 2014 Birthday: 05/01/1985 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Not for me then the clan will be split, all the Europeans playing the UK server and the Americas playing the others, i play here because of all the different backgrounds i don't just want to play with European players, even if it means playing with Billyblade and Stormcrow we had a European server or website? a few years ago nobody hardly played there, so we got rid of it, i see plenty of Euro players top scoring in games over others who have lower pings, just gotta play a different way. very good point SOB.. but I agree with Coolmd as well... may be we can find better server for them in US ..or better ping server in US? coolmd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 1786 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1062 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 729 Achievement Points: 7865 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 28, 2023 Birthday: 07/21/1985 Device: Windows Share Posted March 19, 2012 Im missing on that list google!!!! But yea i dont care about the ping.. As long Bogleg and StanG are complaining about killing me because of my ping im happy with that!! And yea Google is almost in the top every single map.. so it is not a mather of ping but skills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
coolmd Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 2384 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1058 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 757 Achievement Points: 9389 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/10/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 7 Birthday: 01/18/1966 Device: Windows Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 I do understand what you are saying and do see that it was tried before.......I am talking about pings in cod5 ftag, and bf3 and other servers that I play in in XI....In COD5 ftag one or two players are untouchable...........not just their skills....their low ping must help....but maybe I am mistaken..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted March 19, 2012 Well see i don't understand when you say that some people are untouchable/unkillable (is that a word?) because their pings are lower, some Euro players will know what i mean when we are constantly hearing moans from certain players in the servers that they can't kill us because our pings are too high....you know how it goes..."WTF" "BULLSHIT" "I EMPTIED A FULL CLIP IN YOU" I CAN'T KILL HIM HIS PING IS TOO HIGH" "I'M NOT SAYING HE IS HACKING BUTHIS HIGH PING IS MAKING HIM LAG ALL OVER THE PLACE"........RAGE QUIT! need i say more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSYCOKILLER Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 2705 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 149 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 24 Achievement Points: 954 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14, 2013 Birthday: 07/24/1961 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Well to start it was and has been my idea for a long time , living in Hawaii has the worst of both worlds , and I know what they mean and how fair is it and how or why would it split everyone up or how can you call something so diverse American ? , I think it would be a great thing for all of these 50 pingers to play on our turf so to speak its only fair and proper for a match to be fair and the only way to that fairness is what's being proposed , I am with the UKers the whole way , even though the ping will be the same for me no matter what is done , I find it very difficult competing with the low pingers but I am highly skilled at FPS , but maybe I just want to relax and play a game but that's never the case having to battle with pings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavey Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I do understand what you are saying and do see that it was tried before.......I am talking about pings in cod5 ftag, and bf3 and other servers that I play in in XI....In COD5 ftag one or two players are untouchable...........not just their skills....their low ping must help....but maybe I am mistaken..... The thing is it isn't just about ping. I don't have trouble killing in BF3 even with a ping of 125+. However I do have a problem in the COD4 new mw2 ftag servers, even with the same ping, and is why I don't play them any longer. The reason is this. We purchase game servers. These are different to dedicated server (which are soley for the purchaser, and very expensive), in that they are have many clans servers running off the same physical hardware. When we purchase a game server we don't get to choose which physical server from the supplier. This would be nice, as we would simply go for the physical server that had either no-one else or few game servers running on it. That way we would get much more processing power to render our game server. Now all companies have a rough physical server spec for each game (cod4, cod5, bf3, etc), and the number of game servers they can run off each physical server. These are naturally based on the standard game when it first came out, NOT on heavily modded, more resource intensive game servers (like our new cod4 mw2 servers). The only thing Rugger can do (and has done many times) is contact the supplier, and ask if our laggy game server can be put onto another physical server. This is in the hope that this other server has less game servers (and hopefully not heavily modded game servers) running on it. This will improve performance, and is why you sometimes get told the IP Address has changed. The reason why the BF3 game servers don't lag with the same ping, is because the game isn't modded, and the suppliers have the correct spec hardware to run the game. If BF3 was opened up to modding like the cod series, we would over time probably see the same problem. Now sure if I'm up against say... xCaliber (who has the bf3 server under his desk with that 20 ping!!!), naturally he has that slight advantage in killing me, but with my ping at 125, that is a reaction time advantage of about 100milli seconds, which isn't much. P.S. I have seen many low pingers complain of lag on the mw2 ftag servers, so ping can't be the reason, but server performance. In the ideal world, we would purchase several high spec dedicated game servers to only run our game servers. However they are so expensive that the clan wouldn't be able to afford them. Also the advantage of game servers, is that if one goes down, not all the others go down, which would be the case if a dedicate server needed mainenance, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Max Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 558 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 576 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3785 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1477 Achievement Points: 29048 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 24 Birthday: 06/06/1964 Device: Windows Share Posted March 19, 2012 Not for me then the clan will be split, all the Europeans playing the UK server and the Americas playing the others, i play here because of all the different backgrounds i don't just want to play with European players, even if it means playing with Billyblade and Stormcrow we had a European server or website? a few years ago nobody hardly played there, so we got rid of it, i see plenty of Euro players top scoring in games over others who have lower pings, just gotta play a different way. +1 m8.. +2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PSYCOKILLER Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 2705 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 149 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 24 Achievement Points: 954 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 14, 2013 Birthday: 07/24/1961 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Plus ping affects the time it takes to download a map , in menus picking weapons , spawning and being able to make it to the enemies spawn before they can even leave theirs , its like being a heavy weight boxer and pugilizing a feather weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecHnOBoY Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Allthough I'm not a member , I'd like to share my opinion. I do not know if it is allowed to me.. I agree with Cavey, there is much more than the ping. My experience is, that the ping in CoD and BF not to be so much critical. There are other games which are near unplayable with a ping >100. I think anoyone who ever played Cunter Strike can confim. There are one or two players with a high ping, and all others have lags. (this partly is caused by the engine too). Didn't notice this in MW until now. I started playing CoD4 on the XI Servers (round about 20hours the last two or three weeks) and play it ONLY on the XI servers. I have a ping of 125ms average and no probs. The same in lobby based MW2 or 3 games. I never get a server with less than 90ms. I've good rounds and finish a round on 1st place, i have bad rounds beeing the last. Every ICMP packet i send to a US destination is >110ms, that's normal and caused by the distance between Germany and USA. So i think upgrading the hardware wouldn't take a huge effect for eurpoean Players. Another proposal to Cavey: IMHO a DL mirror in europe could increase the DL speed for EU users. Unless you set a limit to 320KByte per connection I hope the post is okay from a non-member otherwise: frag me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
baldie Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 75 Topic Count: 244 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3343 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 2641 Achievement Points: 33808 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 04:13 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted March 19, 2012 I am with SOB on this one sorry,,,I personally dont care what my ping is. The reason I am here is because of all our fellow Idiots world wide and would never enjoy playing the game so much if all the usual suspects were not there.. Yes I can understand sometimes your ping can be frustrating so what I do is go into a euro server once in a while and kick ass Infact I have the privalage of being banned from six different uk servers on BF3 because they said I am a cheat when the only thing that gave me the edge was my 22ping lol TecHnOBoY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Cavey Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Your post is fine. Though I think you meant Counter Strike . We did have a download mirror at one point as part of the XI Downloader. It's presently undergoing a refurb by Ph4nt0m. Though I'm not sure about the future of the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecHnOBoY Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 755 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2191 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 961 Achievement Points: 14309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/17/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2019 Birthday: 01/14/1982 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Thank you For sure i meant cOunter strike. 1153pm, don't expect too much. Did/does this mirror take effect to the downloader only, or also for ingame DLs? This only is a bit annoying. Waiting three or four minutes to play. But this times go by, i have them all soon ^^ mikepaz666 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Cavey Posted March 19, 2012 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Just the Downloader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolmd Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 2384 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1058 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 757 Achievement Points: 9389 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/10/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 7 Birthday: 01/18/1966 Device: Windows Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Milky Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 1786 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1062 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 729 Achievement Points: 7865 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 28, 2023 Birthday: 07/21/1985 Device: Windows Share Posted March 20, 2012 I can personally say for the Cod 4 FT i dont have any problems killing anyone with my atm 300 ping.. and sometimes i even outping the lower pings and kill the hell out of them!! so yea ping doesnt matter to much to me.. and if its going to bad for me i just bring out my tube and everything becomes tubelecious!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted March 20, 2012 Cavey is so right about the MW2 ftag servers and the amount of lag over the last few months, sometimes more is less, maybe it would be good to just take a lot of the gimmicks out of the mod and play a game of ftag where team work counts again instead of killstreaks to see what crappy perk is gonna appear, it was more fun when there was less things in there drunksniper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exe Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 2567 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2904 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 983 Achievement Points: 17118 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 06/08/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 53 minutes ago Birthday: 12/11/1986 Device: Windows Share Posted March 20, 2012 Cavey is so right about the MW2 ftag servers and the amount of lag over the last few months, sometimes more is less, maybe it would be good to just take a lot of the gimmicks out of the mod and play a game of ftag where team work counts again instead of killstreaks to see what crappy perk is gonna appear, it was more fun when there was less things in there +1000000 I don't found the 'Like this x1000000' button sry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
mikey1799 Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 559 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 28 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 627 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 3492 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16 Birthday: 10/09/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted March 20, 2012 Why not move all the servers to Australia? That will even out all the pings for USA/Europe players. Just sayin' is all. lol +1 that sounds good get some servers where it evens the pings out that way its fair to all,cos i get same problem were ya shooting people and then they turn around and kill ya and this happens alot to me ,and why i cant stay in a server for too long as i feel like ripping me computer apart hahaha coolmd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Paperman Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 207 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 18 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 790 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 263 Achievement Points: 5015 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 21, 2015 Birthday: 01/18/1966 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I think things are best like they are. This is how things were when we all found our fam in XI. drunksniper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey1799 Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 559 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 28 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 627 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 3492 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16 Birthday: 10/09/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted March 20, 2012 Well to start it was and has been my idea for a long time , living in Hawaii has the worst of both worlds , and I know what they mean and how fair is it and how or why would it split everyone up or how can you call something so diverse American ? , I think it would be a great thing for all of these 50 pingers to play on our turf so to speak its only fair and proper for a match to be fair and the only way to that fairness is what's being proposed , I am with the UKers the whole way , even though the ping will be the same for me no matter what is done , I find it very difficult competing with the low pingers but I am highly skilled at FPS , but maybe I just want to relax and play a game but that's never the case having to battle with pings +1 i dont think its goin to hurt too try at least it would put all are minds al eas with the ping problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
coolmd Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 2384 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1058 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 757 Achievement Points: 9389 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/10/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 7 Birthday: 01/18/1966 Device: Windows Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
mikey1799 Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 559 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 28 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 627 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 3492 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16 Birthday: 10/09/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted March 20, 2012 Well to start it was and has been my idea for a long time , living in Hawaii has the worst of both worlds , and I know what they mean and how fair is it and how or why would it split everyone up or how can you call something so diverse American ? , I think it would be a great thing for all of these 50 pingers to play on our turf so to speak its only fair and proper for a match to be fair and the only way to that fairness is what's being proposed , I am with the UKers the whole way , even though the ping will be the same for me no matter what is done , I find it very difficult competing with the low pingers but I am highly skilled at FPS , but maybe I just want to relax and play a game but that's never the case having to battle with pings +2 i dont think its goin to hurt too try at least it would put all are minds al eas with the ping problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
mikey1799 Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 559 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 28 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 627 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 3492 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16 Birthday: 10/09/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) i fort i would say anyway, all i was askin for is as we have got 2x freeze tag servers in cod5 if we could try one out as a uk server and as the namft server is the better one too leave that as it is and maybe try the stock server and if it dont work out then try something else,we can see how you lot like your your low pings and dont wont too share hahahaha ,give us a try whats the harm ,we can only kill ya more often .....haha would love to get slowfry on a uk server hahah Edited March 20, 2012 by mikey1799 coolmd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
coolmd Posted March 20, 2012 Member ID: 2384 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 69 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1058 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 757 Achievement Points: 9389 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/10/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 7 Birthday: 01/18/1966 Device: Windows Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Big UP for Mikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BattlewolF Posted March 21, 2012 Member ID: 2028 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1740 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 545 Achievement Points: 10637 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18 Birthday: 03/10/1963 Device: Windows Share Posted March 21, 2012 Not for me then the clan will be split, all the Europeans playing the UK server and the Americas playing the others, i play here because of all the different backgrounds i don't just want to play with European players, even if it means playing with Billyblade and Stormcrow we had a European server or website? a few years ago nobody hardly played there, so we got rid of it, i see plenty of Euro players top scoring in games over others who have lower pings, just gotta play a different way. +1 drunksniper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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