something cleared up for me please?

[ChEnChEn]

In CoD4, the map ambush, are the blown up buildings considered glitches? I believe I've gotten in trouble for using those before, yet earlier today Chewonmyjr was sittin camping them. Personally it doesnt bother me unless were playing knives only, where its literally impossible to get them because all they have to do is camp the spot where you jump in. So can someone clear this up for me please?

[Bama]

I'm not sure exactly where you are talking about... but as a rule... If they can be shot there, and they don't have to go 'off map' to get there.. it is NOT a glitch. It might be a hard spot to get 'em, but not a glitch.

 

Now, describe a little better where you are talking about.

[ChEnChEn]

not quite sure how to describe it in much more detail :/ theres just certain destroyed buildings on that map that its possible to get in and then its possible to jump into assumably unreachable areas.

[greywolf2]

Yes you can jump in those area's But as i am sure the map maker did not intend for those to get in there,  This is and i will confirm with rugger a glitch.

[jackncoke]

wow.. first ive heard of it... considering its really easy to get to the spot and your more open to get shot in it.. so correct me if i am wrong but a glitch is considered a place you get to in a map where you can not be shot/killed or you have to go out of map ..... not some where you just simply jump normally and get to.. because if thats the case... most of the buildings in most of the maps are considered glitching and should be insta death spots.

[ChEnChEn]

I thought the same as jack for a while. but i seem to recall getting in trouble for going up there... anywho. thanks for clearin that up greywolf!

[Bama]

Whatever Rugger says, I'll go with... but I thinks it's a stretch to call a spot that you can get to ... and get shot in.. without going outside of the map... a glitch. I have been wrong at least once before though

[ChknFngr]

hmm well, in that map, its clearly not glitches as they even added ladders in certain not so easily reachable spots

 

[greywolf2]

First off Jack the spot is for most not so easily gotten to by just JUMPING  (the spot where he is talking about is not on the side with the ladder) Is the other side)  You have to jump on the wall in certain spots and if asked many probably could not do it right off "as you so say"  A glitch is just not considered a spot to where you can not be shot from cause if this was the case the arches on citystreets would be considered not a glitch---------Which it is. Glitch can also be considered a spot or area a map maker did not intend peps to go. If you dont feel that is correct then would going outside a map be considered ok? Because even outside a map you can get killed. Just because a map maker neglected to fix the spot does not make this ok.   Just like the arch ways on city streets (which you can get to)  these broken buildings are areas where most do not look because they are spots not so easily gotten to.    I consider it a glitch-------- I didnt say stop going there----- I stated i would get rugger to make the decision just as i did on citystreets----------

 

[Ruggerxi]

it will be removed from rotation for the time being

[Bama]

Got it Boss!

 

I have lots of opinions on glitches, but perhaps the general forum is not the place to discuss.

[Angel]

Yes I agree with grey.   I cant get to those spots right off and very easily and I think I am a fairly good player but I would think it would be a glitch.  But thats just me....I actually enjoy the map myself except for people abusing that spot.

[ChEnChEn]

okay thanks for clearin this up for me guys

[jackncoke]

"Glitching" is the practice of a player exploiting faults in a video game's programming to achieve tasks normally impossible if the game's script runs as intended, such as running through walls or defying the game's laws of gravity. It is often used to gain an unfair advantage over other players in multiplayer video games.

During quality assurance (such as the role of a game tester for video games), glitches must be located, a report compiled, and then fed back to the programmers.^[2]

Though commonly used by game players and the general public, the term "glitch" is rarely used by game developers, publishers, and QA departments. Instead, the more common term of software bug, or simply "bug", is used by professionals working in the video game industry.

[jackncoke]

only reason i post this... is for the simple fact.. if your going to consider a simple jump that anyone can do a glitch where you can be easily shot at... then there are many maps that need to be taken out due to "glitches" like this.. example.. disctrict on the market stairs.. u can actually peek over the stairs before the other person sees u... another glitch.. backlot... u can sit behind a light on bottom contstruction and not be shot from a certain direction at all.... vacant... u can jump on a fridge and see just about anyone.... list goes on and on for each map... so my personal opinion on it... stick with the same rules for each map on what we consider a glitch... not due to what the glitch is...

[Angel]

well i think its right the way its being called right now.   that to me on that map should be considered a glitch just like other spots on other maps, i really dont think its that hard to understand or get.  seems simple to me.  unless u study these places and really work to get then not just anyone can do them.

[ChknFngr]

what i was trying to say is that its true on both sides of the map actually, not trying to defend anyone here, i rarely go on those spots anyway, but on the other side of the map u have that broken dustbin in the middle of the road, and from there u are able  to jump in the window.

well if that is a glitch, then devs wouldnt have added a 'climb clip' on those 2 windows.

they clearly added those windows to be 'climbed-able'

this is something u do when u work on map, its not like they forgot to block access, no, they give access to those places.

thats why i think its not a glitch we are talking here.

but whatever admins decision, it will always be and should be fun

[BudSr]

Ruggerxi

it will be removed from rotation for the time being

this is a done deal so lets move on please thanks.

[jackncoke]

bud  just reminding u that i found a picture taking from a hidden camera of u and caper:) please check your valentines post

[greywolf2]

A "simple jump to some" is not so simple to others. To get to the spot in question you have to jump on the brick wall in the right spot with the timing just right. On average i would say a regular player would take 4-6 and maybe more to hit that jump. The time that map has been in rotation i only on a rare occassion will see a pep there------- and why do you ask? Because most can either not get there or have never tried. Not everyone has the time to play a map and find spots that are atainable but with perfect timing or alot of free time to spend.

Now chkn there are many of many you tube video's on glitch spots and yes on stock maps....... Mapper miss things just like programers miss closing exploits where others (who have time and experience) can gain access from mistakes made by the maker......

[ChknFngr]

oh yes i agree with you grey, they missed some spots.

but for a window to be accessible, its something the devs HAVE to add.

i dont remember how that 'climb-texture' is called exactly, but its something u have to add in the mapping tool. its not something they forgot to block the access.

if we are talking about the same spots lol

 

but i also agree they didnt map that correctly, as its not that easy to climb. but fact is that auto-climb texture is there.

 

now for my part, i only try to jump on those areas when i see other people doing it, i wont go there on my own, because i know it will piss some people off.

 

that said, i will follow all the rules, and i think its for the good of everyone, and it may be funnier for everyone if we dont use special spots (lets dont call them glitches lol)

[Caper]

hope all this useless info was helpfull

 

[ChknFngr]

lol

i know im an idiot