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No Christmas for anyone!

 

All holiday money and gifts are to be sent to me directly.

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It's not "softcore" it's "normal mode". There's no settings in the server browser that uses the term "softcore". Thanks!

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It's not "softcore" it's "normal mode". There's no settings in the server browser that uses the term "softcore". Thanks!

 

And in reality it is much more "hardcore" than hardcore itself.  Firefights where accuracy and tactics actually plays a role.  Not just camping and waiting or "i saw you first" type of play.  You will generally see HC players bitch and complain about cheaters, when playing on Normal, but not the opposite for Normal players playing on HC.  I choose not to play on HC servers because, to me, its boring (there are no firefights where the enemy has a chance to kill me), its less challenging to me and always seems so much easier than Normal.

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And in reality it is much more "hardcore" than hardcore itself. Firefights where accuracy and tactics actually plays a role. Not just camping and waiting or "i saw you first" type of play. You will generally see HC players bitch and complain about cheaters, when playing on Normal, but not the opposite for Normal players playing on HC. I choose not to play on HC servers because, to me, its boring (there are no firefights where the enemy has a chance to kill me), its less challenging to me and always seems so much easier than Normal.

I'm not here to debate which is best because that usually turns into a flame fest. I prefer using the correct terminology because it just sounds like we are debating which porn is better.

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I'm not here to debate which is best because that usually turns into a flame fest. I prefer using the correct terminology because it just sounds like we are debating which porn is better.

 

Xtreme core porn is clearly the best

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I'm not here to debate which is best because that usually turns into a flame fest. I prefer using the correct terminology because it just sounds like we are debating which porn is better.

 

answer - its all better.

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I find both modes challenging in their own ways.  I like to play on HC sometimes because its super easy to shoot people out of the driver seat of the little bird and steal the chopper.

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It would be so cool if we had full control over modding the server.  Can you imagine an Ultra Normal Mode?  Where everyone had 1000% health and it took upwards of 30 seconds to kill someone, it would seriously be like:

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It would be so cool if we had full control over modding the server.  Can you imagine an Ultra Normal Mode?  Where everyone had 1000% health and it took upwards of 30 seconds to kill someone, it would seriously be like:

 

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You fucking Idiot @@OddJob001.....Wish I was back right now. I wonder how much we can tweak them hmmm... health up, bullet damage down : )

 

Aww damit! then everyone would be running around with an LMG.....whats that? Everyone already is? Doh!

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Im liking it so far though I think we need to cut out some of the bigger conquest maps. Its not easy to play golmond railroads with 10 people. Really kills the server when we forget to vote lol

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You fucking Idiot @@OddJob001.....Wish I was back right now. I wonder how much we can tweak them hmmm... health up, bullet damage down : )

 

Aww damit! then everyone would be running around with an LMG.....whats that? Everyone already is? Doh!

 

I hear ya.  With this move I havent played in a good week.  Soon I hope.  

 

But lets do it!  Next time we are working on populating the server, lets see how high we can set the health and how low we can set the bullet damage.  Hilariousness could ensue.  

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@@OddJob001

 

this is me

 

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Funny.  The first gif I was going to link was from Predator. 

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Something is up with that server I think. it has been very laggy.

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We had no complaints about lag during the day?

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From what I have heard the lag has been pretty bad. People come but they leave because of the lag. 

 

Who is the vendor we are using for this server and where is it located? I know this has been discussed in the past. We may want to consider a move to NFO or similar vendor that we have had such a solid history with for BF4.

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We had no complaints about lag during the day?

 

 

hmm. I know I was playing on it full the other day and no lag.. but a couple previous times in the evening it has been getting really bad. not sure whats up with it.

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I'll work with the provider and see if anything can be found.

 

The provider used most often doesn't make much difference as they all seem to use the same data centers and connections. They just change the reverse DNS so on trace routes it says another company name. Occasionally some lease better HW but honestly most even use the same HW, it just comes down to how many virtual servers they cram on them and the load. (Similar to what shared website providers do)

It's more luck of the draw. You can have the same company in the same location give you 2 servers and one run better vs. the other because other things shared with it or the data pipe it's using etc.

 

Also different physical locations plays a big role as some locations have better peering points (routing to various providers) and more BW etc.

I don't think the issue in this case is BW as latency has been fairly consistent and suspect it may be a host load issue during peak times.

 

We'll see what happens. I suspect they will hate me because I can push them on the much more technical stuff due to my background and BS detector.

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I don't really use a mini-map...I like hard core because I can kill someone with just one clip...on the other hand I can kill a teammate with just one bullet. I do like spotting and spawning on the squad mate of my choice...so... can you make a hardcore server, with teamkill disabled, mini map disabled, spotting enabled and squad spawning enabled? Yeah I didn't think so...In short...I'm good with whatever...I will adapt and conquer!!!

 

Thanks, 

 

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Funny.  The first gif I was going to link was from Predator. 

Are you the tree or the fern???

 

 

:D

 

jn

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I didn't want to say it because it will please Oneil but I think the classic mode is really good. Love the HC preset with the SC dmg. I have played on some classic servers that don't go as far as removing the dorito or allowing friendly fire and I couldn't tell the difference with regular softcore.

 

Would be cool if we could make it populated.

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I will be on my computer in about an hour if anybody wants to get on, I can play with the damage settings etc. on that server. See what kind of fun we can have.

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The thing I really like about classic over plain hardcore is the minimap, if I ever play as Recon, I do like using the motion sensor balls and TUGS, and I haven't really found a way for them to be that useful without the minimap.  Yeah, I guess you can bring up the full map, but while you do that to see if anyone's around, someone could likely get the drop on you.  

I kind of like friendly fire being turned on, too, which is another way the minimap becomes super valuable.  

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