TBB Posted February 8, 2015 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 290 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 20435 Content Per Day: 3.65 Reputation: 22495 Achievement Points: 147659 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 392 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Posted February 8, 2015 loaderXI, Sweatnbullets, Leadfinger and 9 others 12 Awards
little_old_man Posted February 8, 2015 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted February 8, 2015 That's hilarious and cringeworthy at the same time. I've always had a fairly good opinion of him but somebody in his position really should know better than to embelish a story when there were others there than could call you a liar. Leadfinger and hxtr 2 Awards
Sammy Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted February 9, 2015 I suppose if its good enough for politicians to do it all the time its ok for a news anchor to. Sweatnbullets, azzkikr and Leadfinger 3 Awards
hxtr Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted February 9, 2015 If you ask me the past 7+++ years x10 have been nothing but lies in the news.Just saying...
PimpedOutPete Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15027 Content Per Day: 2.62 Reputation: 8043 Achievement Points: 92206 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 19 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Windows Posted February 9, 2015 News is Politics last time I checked, Just ask Rupert Murdoch. That wrinkled old curmudgeon has had his finger prints on politics on both sides of the pond. Awards
hxtr Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted February 9, 2015 did his helicopter get shot down? Leadfinger 1
Joe Canadian Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) The helicopter story was complete BS http://youtu.be/Bdrtoy8P3po Edited February 9, 2015 by Joe Canadian Awards
Joe Canadian Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Posted February 9, 2015 http://youtu.be/YS7hloGDFNA Awards
Joe Canadian Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Posted February 9, 2015 Floating body story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2h9J5tksr0 Awards
TBB Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 290 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 20435 Content Per Day: 3.65 Reputation: 22495 Achievement Points: 147659 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 392 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Author Posted February 9, 2015 That's twice this month Joe C.'s wife has let him out and Pete refuses to help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joe Canadian 1 Awards
little_old_man Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted February 9, 2015 Here is the actual account of what really happened as told by soldiers who were there. Brian Williams "embellished" the story from the very beginning and the lies snowballed as the years passed. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/07/business/media/soldiers-in-brian-williams-group-give-account-of-2003-events.html?_r=0 Soldiers in Brian Williams’s Group Give Account of 2003 Helicopter Attack In the earliest days of the Iraq war, in March 2003, two convoys of helicopters left a base in Kuwait, flying toward Najaf and the front line. One convoy was hit by enemy fire, and the other was not, according to four people present that day. What happened to those helicopters has since become a matter of dispute. Brian Williams, the NBC News anchor, was embedded on one of those missions. In an initial report, broadcast in 2003, NBC’s Tom Brokaw described “a close call in the skies over Iraq.” Mr. Williams said, “The Chinook ahead of us was almost blown out of the sky.” In the years since, Mr. Williams adapted the story to say that he was actually on a helicopter that crash-landed after taking enemy fire. He apologized for the mistake on Wednesday, but since then, as the controversy over Mr. Williams escalated, conflicting accounts have emerged of what actually happened. On Friday, NBC News said it would begin an internal investigation that would review the Iraq episode and other reporting by Mr. Williams. The following account is based on interviews with four soldiers: Christopher Simeone and Allan Kelly, who say they flew Mr. Williams, and Jerry Pearman and Joe Summerlin, who were part of the mission that was shot down. (Mr. Pearman and Mr. Summerlin also gave an account at the time of the episode in 2003 to the military newspaper, Stars and Stripes.) Three Chinook helicopters of the 11th Aviation Task Force left the base first, the four men said. They were carrying heavy loads of Apache helicopter parts, slung beneath them. They were flying 50 to 100 feet above the desert at more than 100 knots. Mr. Summerlin was on Aircraft 099, the second helicopter in the group. Below him, he saw five or six Iraqi men leap out of a truck, wielding weapons. Bullets began flying. They sounded, Mr. Summerlin said, like hammers hitting the helicopter. Most of the bullets and a rocket-propelled grenade, or R.P.G., hit the boxes of parts they were carrying. This almost certainly saved their lives, Mr. Summerlin and Mr. Pearman said, along with heroic piloting. Another R.P.G. also passed cleanly through the helicopter’s tail rotor without destroying it. Mr. Williams had film of that hole in his 2003 story. One of the bullets that hit the helicopter struck its electrical panel. That and other damage caused the helicopter to rear up and down, its warning lights flashing. It landed and skidded to a halt near a desert airstrip, just feet from a sand berm that happened to have other American troops nearby. The other two aircraft in the convoy flew away to safety. Back at the air base, Mr. Simeone, part of a different division, was told that, in addition to carrying parts for a bridge to an area of desert known as Objective Rams on a separate mission, he would be carrying Mr. Williams, Gen. Wayne A. Downing and two or three of their staff members. Another pilot, Rich Krell, Mr. Simeone and Mr. Kelly said, flew the other helicopter in their group. Mr. Krell told CNN on Wednesday that his helicopter had been fired on, too. But on Thursday, he recanted his story and said he was “questioning his memories.” Mr. Simeone, along with Mr. Kelly and another pilot, said that they completed their mission safely but that a dust storm forced them to land. They saw Mr. Summerlin’s helicopter, surrounded by other soldiers, and decided that would be a good place to set down. As Mr. Summerlin recalls it, Mr. Williams’s helicopter landed at least 30 minutes or as much as an hour after their crash. Mr. Williams disembarked. He asked some questions, Mr. Summerlin recalls, took some video, and then left them without waiting to do an interview. Mr. Summerlin and Mr. Pearman said they thought Mr. Williams’s initial 2003 report was disingenuous. He conflated his mission with theirs, they said, and implied — but never said — that their helicopters were close to his. “It certainly cannot be a case of fog of war, or that someone is confused from 12 years ago,” Mr. Pearman said. “That is the kind of event that, to this day, I can remember a fair amount of detail.” Mr. Summerlin’s wife, watching in Germany, did not see her husband in the NBC report, he said, and worried that perhaps her husband, who slept in the desert for days after the episode, was actually missing in action. “She was pretty upset,” he said. In 2003, Mr. Pearman said, soldiers could not send instant messages to their families. Communication was much more sporadic. “So when you start stories that are really untrue, you start muddying the water,” he said. “It’s not only a large problem because of the stories themselves, it’s hard for the families.” Mr. Pearman said that in another apology that Mr. Williams published on Facebook, the news anchor still seemed to suggest that his helicopter had been close to the ones that came under fire, stating that he “was indeed on the Chinook behind the bird that took the R.P.G. in the tail housing.” He was “still squirming around what actually happened,” Mr. Pearman said. “It wasn’t all that truthful.” For Mr. Summerlin, the reporting by Mr. Williams remains hurtful. “For him to diminish what we felt, what for me was a big experience,” Mr. Summerlin said, “is a slap in the face to all of the soldiers who were there.” Leadfinger and TBB 2 Awards
Joe Canadian Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Posted February 9, 2015 Makes one wonder why people do this, attention seeking behavior? some sort of personality disorder? And Williams is not the only one, here's an ironic example Sweatnbullets 1 Awards
Joe Canadian Posted February 9, 2015 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) That's twice this month Joe C.'s wife has let him out and Pete refuses to help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice sig TBB! Edited February 9, 2015 by Joe Canadian TBB 1 Awards
Spartacus Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 1387 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2540 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2486 Achievement Points: 19555 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 13 Birthday: 06/05/1968 Device: Windows Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I Thought this guy was a lier the 1st time I ever heard him do the news.... All Big Gov. Progressives are Liers in BOTH Parties... Hilarious Pics though!!! Edited February 10, 2015 by Spartacus hxtr 1 Awards
Leadfinger Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Posted February 10, 2015 @@TBB Great Photos fuking hilarious Thanks for that Its the world we live in now telling the truth be dammed . . .if you don't see something with your own eyes you gotta question it. News people lie, politicians lie, Government officials lie . . .. . Lying is he new truth I have been wondering . . .if someones brain has been brain washed . . . . How you you get it clean? Just when you thought that these times are as bad as it's gonna get . . . . .it gets better . . . . . .shit now I'm Lying Har!!! TBB and hxtr 2 Awards
Sammy Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted February 10, 2015 How is this new however? Way back when a little known tycoon named Hearst did the same thing Murdoch is now. Awards
hxtr Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted February 10, 2015 The difference between before and today or in my life time is.... you didn't know they were lying to you. Today the lies are bold faced. You can't miss them and they still get way with it. This is how the Nazi Germay's of the world get created. Ideology over common sense. The Puppet Master know exactly what they are doing. Spartacus and Leadfinger 2
Joe Canadian Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) The difference between before and today or in my life time is.... you didn't know they were lying to you. Today the lies are bold faced. You can't miss them and they still get way with it. This is how the Nazi Germay's of the world get created. Ideology over common sense. The Puppet Master know exactly what they are doing. I am glad the US military did not allow Williams to get away with this lie. People in power and in the media seem to be fascinated by military aircraft. This seems to happen everywhere, even in F up North Korea...Do these people behave this way based on ideology, "true love" for the leader or plain fear? It reminds me of Goebbels style propaganda on the opposite side of the political spectrum supreme example of BS collective hysteria Edited February 10, 2015 by Joe Canadian hxtr 1 Awards
hxtr Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted February 10, 2015 Well after the movie The Interview I started taking a liking Kim Jon. He deep down is a very sensitive guy. Plus he has a tank that shoots.
hxtr Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted February 10, 2015 Well after the movie The Interview I started taking a liking Kim Jon. He deep down is a very sensitive guy. Plus he has a tank that shoots.
little_old_man Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted February 10, 2015 Personally I feel that the funniest part of this entire fiasco are the people on the left trying to justify what Williams did by making constant references to FOX News, Rupert Murdoch and Rush Limbagh. They're tripping over each other trying to deflect from what is really happening, which is that their golden child Brian Williams not only lied about a news story to inflate his ego, but it looks like he did it on several occasions and regarding a number of different stories. There is no reality in news, it's all smoke & mirrors regardless of where you get your news from. With any luck if you gather news from enough different sources, somewhere in there you might actually get the real story. Astronomer, hxtr, Hemps and 1 other 4 Awards
Astronomer Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 2069 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 214 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2411 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2409 Achievement Points: 18298 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 08/08/1966 Posted February 10, 2015 Left, right, who cares? His big ego and a big helping of narcissism did him in. Lesson? Don't bullshit in the instant-communication era, especially if you're high-profile. little_old_man, Leadfinger, hxtr and 3 others 6 Awards
Hemps Posted February 10, 2015 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted February 10, 2015 PimpedOutPete, hxtr, JohnnyDos and 2 others 5 Awards
TBB Posted February 11, 2015 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 290 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 20435 Content Per Day: 3.65 Reputation: 22495 Achievement Points: 147659 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 392 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Author Posted February 11, 2015 Nice sig TBB! At least you could have used a picture where I combed my hair!!!! Joe Canadian 1 Awards
TBB Posted February 11, 2015 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 290 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 20435 Content Per Day: 3.65 Reputation: 22495 Achievement Points: 147659 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 392 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Author Posted February 11, 2015 This just in: Brian Williams, anchor and managing editor of "NBC Nightly News," was suspended for six months following his misrepresentation of accounts of some news events, NBC said Tuesday night. "We have decided today to suspend Brian Williams as managing editor and anchor of NBC Nightly News for six months," NBC News president Deborah Turness said in a statement. "The suspension will be without pay and is effective immediately. We let Brian know of our decision earlier today. Lester Holt will continue to substitute Anchor the NBC Nightly News." Should fire him for good! Sweatnbullets 1 Awards
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