TheLastColdBeer Posted July 23, 2023 Member ID: 489 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 548 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4671 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5858 Achievement Points: 41072 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 10 hours ago Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Android Share Posted July 23, 2023 Had to crack a smile after reading this & similar articles. https://phys.org/news/2023-07-age-universe-billion-years-previously.html Some people cling to the Big Bang as if it was a holy scroll granted by Heaven. To me, it's too patched up to describe creation correctly. If our universe has suddenly become twice as old as previously believed, why continue with the closed mind concept that "only" dark matter & dark energy can explain expansion. The Webb telescope has moved the goalposts yet again, and it sounds like the money grant people are scrambling to patch up their arguments. My personal theory is we have no idea what lies beyond the light horizon, so Physics is still an open ended game. Keeping an open mind, open ears, and open eyes are truly what separates the people enjoying life, and those being led by their noses. spinpuppy, Hunter1948, major-mark63 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 23, 2023 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted July 23, 2023 The article doesnt mention one of the other theories going around. Namely that there was more than one 'big bang'. It goes bang. The universe expands. Then eventually the universe contracts back onto itself until another critical mass forms. Then bang again. Forever. All that said, With this updated understanding of the universe its still extremely old and didnt come into being a mere 5k years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TBB Posted July 24, 2023 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 18160 Content Per Day: 3.47 Reputation: 20195 Achievement Points: 133094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 266 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 hours ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Share Posted July 24, 2023 HXTR said it's all because of the contrails!!!! TheLastColdBeer, bds1961, BUDMAN and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 24, 2023 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted July 24, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TheLastColdBeer Posted July 24, 2023 Member ID: 489 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 548 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4671 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5858 Achievement Points: 41072 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 10 hours ago Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Android Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 Worrying about how many times the universe has contracted, expanded, & re-invented itself (including new rules & laws) is a completely different thread. Ain't my concern, only in this for the short haul. BUDMAN, Labob, Ghostlupus and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted July 24, 2023 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8269 Content Per Day: 1.54 Reputation: 5983 Achievement Points: 53645 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 11 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 hours ago, TBB said: HXTR said it's all because of the contrails!!!! OMG he said the word were all going to hell in a hand basket now I tell ya BUDMAN, TBB and TheLastColdBeer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
MikeB Posted July 26, 2023 Member ID: 59 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 137 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2114 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 2333 Achievement Points: 15140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) The true questions is...."What was here before the Universe" Edited July 26, 2023 by MikeB BUDMAN, TheLastColdBeer and Ghostlupus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ghostlupus Posted July 27, 2023 Member ID: 25598 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 344 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 357 Achievement Points: 2838 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/17 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 09/22/1956 Device: Windows Share Posted July 27, 2023 Theories of the creation of the universe blow my mind. I ask the same question as Mike B 'What was there before'? Also, what is it the Universe is expanding into? Better stop now, have another coffee and get to work. Have a great day!! TheLastColdBeer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TheLastColdBeer Posted July 27, 2023 Member ID: 489 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 548 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4671 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5858 Achievement Points: 41072 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 10 hours ago Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Android Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 In regards to Mr. H As for what came before the universe, what mortal would know? All evidence would disappear in the creation of what appears now. All that matters to me at the moment is making my bacon, lettuce, & tomato sandwiches for lunch at work. BUDMAN, Labob and Sammy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 27, 2023 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted July 27, 2023 The question is this: given that God is infinite, and that the Universe is also infinite... would you like a toasted teacake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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