Shamu Posted January 10, 2013 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Posted January 10, 2013 I may have posted these before. They were bought when I had my C&R License (Curio and Relic) These rifles were refinished and accurized by Miltech Arms who do very nice custom restorations. The top one is a Winchester M-1, middle is a Enfield 1917 and the bottom is a Remington 1903. Link to Miltech is: http://www.miltecharms.com/ WolfTiS, ENG4INE , hxtr and 2 others 5
Shamu Posted January 10, 2013 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Author Posted January 10, 2013 And to show I do not discriminate a Kar 98 from the Oberndorf Armory. ENG4INE , hxtr, TheCheeseyCrusader and 3 others 6
Spartacus Posted January 10, 2013 Member ID: 1387 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2540 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2486 Achievement Points: 19555 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 13 Birthday: 06/05/1968 Device: Windows Posted January 10, 2013 Very Nice Weapons! I Like The Laminate Stock On The K-98! Awards
Shamu Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Author Posted January 11, 2013 Very Nice Weapons! I Like The Laminate Stock On The K-98! The Russians also made extensive use of laminated stocks and actually many KAR's also had solid wood stocks. In the below pic the rifle second from bottom with the sling is a Russian Mosin M44 from the Izhevsk arsenal with a laminate stock. Laminate stocks are much more stable in foul weather. hxtr and Spartacus 2
Dark Asylumn Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Posted January 11, 2013 i am on the hunt for a yugo 48 its identical to the kar as yugosolavia was over run by germany, germany forced the yugo's to build the kar 98s. after the war the yugo's still had the kar 98 dies in their machines, they started producing the weapons and named them the 47 and 48 the difference is in the bolt lever. the built an arsenal of these so that if they were ever invaded again they woud=ld have weapons to defend themself. as they were never invaded again most of these guns just sat in warehouses. so basically if you want an unfired kar 98 you best be looking at the yugos. an unfired yugo goes for around 400-600 more or less depending on the place. a fired kar in pretty rough condition sells for much more. just fyi Awards
Spartacus Posted January 14, 2013 Member ID: 1387 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2540 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2486 Achievement Points: 19555 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 13 Birthday: 06/05/1968 Device: Windows Posted January 14, 2013 i am on the hunt for a yugo 48 its identical to the kar as yugosolavia was over run by germany, germany forced the yugo's to build the kar 98s. after the war the yugo's still had the kar 98 dies in their machines, they started producing the weapons and named them the 47 and 48 the difference is in the bolt lever. the built an arsenal of these so that if they were ever invaded again they woud=ld have weapons to defend themself. as they were never invaded again most of these guns just sat in warehouses. so basically if you want an unfired kar 98 you best be looking at the yugos. an unfired yugo goes for around 400-600 more or less depending on the place. a fired kar in pretty rough condition sells for much more. just fyi I Own One. Paid $169 8 years ago when they first came in. Be careful though, the bores can be hit or miss. If you get stuck with a worn barrel, go to sportsmanguide & buy a "new old stock" one!!!! The action is not quite as slick a a K98 but sure is accurate. Also, the reciever is shorter than the K98.... Its a Great Gun! Awards
tsw 8.5 Posted January 14, 2013 Member ID: 906 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 144 Topic Count: 537 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 17542 Content Per Day: 3.12 Reputation: 42644 Achievement Points: 151923 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 691 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Birthday: 11/30/1960 Device: Windows Posted January 14, 2013 sure look nice ..thanks .. Awards
hxtr Posted January 14, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted January 14, 2013 Nice Shamu.. very nice collection.
GorillaXI Posted January 14, 2013 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.72 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Posted January 14, 2013 You make me sick Shamu. Really? An M-1? I've been wanting to get my hands on one for some time now. I too have a C&R license and have yet to get the opportunity to find me an M-1 Garand worth laying the money down. Nice collection. Shamu 1
PingLo Posted January 14, 2013 Member ID: 1103 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 64 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1977 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1122 Achievement Points: 15642 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 16, 2013 Birthday: 01/01/2012 Posted January 14, 2013 Doesn't the US Government sell old 'rented' surplus M1s back to the populous pretty cheaply??
Spartacus Posted January 14, 2013 Member ID: 1387 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 30 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2540 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2486 Achievement Points: 19555 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 13 Birthday: 06/05/1968 Device: Windows Posted January 14, 2013 Doesn't the US Government sell old 'rented' surplus M1s back to the populous pretty cheaply?? yes they were as of a few years ago... Civilian Marksmans Program or CMP I think is what it was called... I Heard the condition the rifles were in were pretty rough... PingLo 1 Awards
Shamu Posted January 15, 2013 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Author Posted January 15, 2013 You make me sick Shamu. Really? An M-1? I've been wanting to get my hands on one for some time now. I too have a C&R license and have yet to get the opportunity to find me an M-1 Garand worth laying the money down. Nice collection. All depends on what you are willing to pay. I have 6 M-1's. 5 of them are WW II era with the one from Miltech a reconditioned Winchester and one a recent remake by Springfield using several original parts. Winchester's seem to cost the most.
MikeB Posted January 15, 2013 Member ID: 59 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2174 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 2415 Achievement Points: 15578 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 4 hours ago Device: Windows Posted January 15, 2013 I too have my C&R and buy from these guys alot www.aimsurplus.com In stock guns change all the time with them. Nice place to order from. Awards
GorillaXI Posted January 15, 2013 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.72 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Posted January 15, 2013 Yes Ping you are correct. But the one I want to get is a WWII issue that has papers to show it was used during a major conflict. So I am looking at around $2000-$2500. Not so easy to find. Dark Asylumn 1
PingLo Posted January 15, 2013 Member ID: 1103 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 64 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1977 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1122 Achievement Points: 15642 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 16, 2013 Birthday: 01/01/2012 Posted January 15, 2013 Doesn't the US Government sell old 'rented' surplus M1s back to the populous pretty cheaply?? yes they were as of a few years ago... Civilian Marksmans Program or CMP I think is what it was called... I Heard the condition the rifles were in were pretty rough... I think they have a few different grades: http://www.odcmp.com
PingLo Posted January 15, 2013 Member ID: 1103 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 64 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1977 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1122 Achievement Points: 15642 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 16, 2013 Birthday: 01/01/2012 Posted January 15, 2013 Yes Ping you are correct. But the one I want to get is a WWII issue that has papers to show it was used during a major conflict. So I am looking at around $2000-$2500. Not so easy to find. Ah, gotcha!
Shamu Posted January 16, 2013 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Author Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) Yes Ping you are correct. But the one I want to get is a WWII issue that has papers to show it was used during a major conflict. So I am looking at around $2000-$2500. Not so easy to find. It is hard and expensive just to obtain any M-1 in original condition. Meaning numbers match on all parts. Most M-1 have undergone reconditioning at some time in their lives. In this process parts are replaced, particularly barrels, and identifying numbers no longer match throughout. I know of no government records to show where and when they were used. If it is claimed so by private sale I would question the authenticity of the supporting records. My guess is CMP is the best bet however I never used them. http://www.odcmp.com...es/m1garand.htm Excerpt: Over the past 65 years, most M1 rifles have been arsenal rebuilt, refinished, rebarreled or repaired at least once and often several times. Most will show signs of service (often considerable) and replacement of various parts. They are seldom encountered with all original parts and original finish as delivered from the manufacturer. Such "original" rifles, even in well-used condition, are highly prized by collectors. Serial numbers on the receiver can tell you when the rifle was made and for my M-1's I only know the year it was manufactured, not where it saw service. For example I know the Winchester M-1 I got from Miltech was manufactured in Nov 1943, the month and year of my birth. I just do not know how you will be able to authenticate the type of M-1 you want. Not saying you can't, just saying I don't know how. Edited January 16, 2013 by Shamu
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