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On 4/10/2024 at 9:18 PM, Totty said:

I've just pulled the trigger on this monitor whilst it's on special offer.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-MAG-323UPF-Freesync-Adjustable/dp/B09Y54ZPW7?th=1&psc=1

Hopefully it's as good as the spec looks to be

When is it arriving? Looks decent. 

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32 minutes ago, Sharpe said:

When is it arriving? Looks decent. 

Hopefully in the next few hours

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It's arrived and it's a beauty. 

It runs Cod4 4k 120hz no problem.

144hz didn't look as good so I backed it down a bit 

The monitor itself is 160hz

 

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3 hours ago, Totty said:

It's arrived and it's a beauty. 

It runs Cod4 4k 120hz no problem.

144hz didn't look as good so I backed it down a bit 

The monitor itself is 160hz

 

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Sweet, enjoy! Did you double check the fps on https://www.testufo.com/ ?

When you say 144hz didn't look as good, do you mean the ingame setting (in the graphics menu)?

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I just did 2 different reaction tests and very happy to say that at my advanced age I posted a 241ms and 232ms. So when I am playing COD2 tomorrow morning I will will be comforted in the knowledge that I suck not because of my PC or Monitor or Reaction Time. I just suck because I can't hit anything I am aiming at. Enjoy your new Monitor. I am having a blast with the 35 inch curved wide screen monitor my Wife bought me for Christmas 4 months ago.

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10 hours ago, Sharpe said:

Sweet, enjoy! Did you double check the fps on https://www.testufo.com/ ?

When you say 144hz didn't look as good, do you mean the ingame setting (in the graphics menu)?

144hz yesterday looked to have poor contrast and colour in comparison to 120hz.

I have revisited this today and both settings are identical visually.  I can only assume that now I've set the monitor up, it is happy running 144hz. I could also be my 3070ti trying to keep up with the sudden changes.

Either way it's perfect.now at 144hz

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update, I did the UFO test which came back at 60 hz, so went into Geforce control panel and the max Hz available was 120hz ,

I am assumong this is for desktop only and the game can demand the extra HZ

 

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51 minutes ago, Totty said:

update, I did the UFO test which came back at 60 hz, so went into Geforce control panel and the max Hz available was 120hz ,

I am assumong this is for desktop only and the game can demand the extra HZ

 

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Nice, you should notice a big difference next time you play, now that it's above 60hz. What kind of cable are you using to connect the monitor (hdmi, displayport?). There must be something stopping it from being able to reach the full 160hz.

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HDMI lead supplied with monitor into slot 1 of both 3070ti and monitor There is an extra lead supplied with the monitor  but my 3070ti doesn't have a port for it

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15 minutes ago, Totty said:

Hd.i lead supplied with monitor into slot 1 of both 3070ti and monitor There is an extra lead supplied with the monitor  but my 3070ti doesn't have a port for it

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I looked up the manual online. It looks like there is probably a setting in the OSD to be able to use the full 160hz: 

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https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/monitor/MAG323UPFv1.0_English.pdf 

Not sure if you've messed about with that yet. Looks like there is a button at the back of the monitor to access the various menus. It also seems to have a response time setting (similar to my own that I mentioned previously) where you can make it as fast as possible:

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3 hours ago, Sharpe said:

I looked up the manual online. It looks like there is probably a setting in the OSD to be able to use the full 160hz: 

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https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/monitor/MAG323UPFv1.0_English.pdf 

Not sure if you've messed about with that yet. Looks like there is a button at the back of the monitor to access the various menus. It also seems to have a response time setting (similar to my own that I mentioned previously) where you can make it as fast as possible:

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Thanks for the advice, very much a case of RTFM

I've now set it to PC mode and now have 160hz option on the desktop

Thanks again

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@SharpeGot it figured out! I'm running 165hz now according to testufo.com. I would have never known without that website.

Setup is 27" Samsung G32A with 1070 nvidia. Turned off Freesync on monitor settings. Then on Nvidia control panel, went to "Adjust desktop size and position". It already displayed 1920x1080 @ 165hz. However, on "Change Resolution", it was set to 1920x1080 with highest possible refresh of 120hz. Scrolling down that list, there's a section called "PC" and then if I select 1920x1080, I have 165hz as option.

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36 minutes ago, spoonjab said:

@SharpeGot it figured out! I'm running 165hz now according to testufo.com. I would have never known without that website.

Setup is 27" Samsung G32A with 1070 nvidia. Turned off Freesync on monitor settings. Then on Nvidia control panel, went to "Adjust desktop size and position". It already displayed 1920x1080 @ 165hz. However, on "Change Resolution", it was set to 1920x1080 with highest possible refresh of 120hz. Scrolling down that list, there's a section called "PC" and then if I select 1920x1080, I have 165hz as option.

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Another one joins the promised lands! Did you set response time to fastest in the OSD as well?

Sweet deal for only $150! Enjoy!

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On 4/21/2024 at 10:27 PM, Sharpe said:

Another one joins the promised lands! Did you set response time to fastest in the OSD as well?

Sweet deal for only $150! Enjoy!

Yes. Changed to Fastest on the monitor menu.

Ages ago I set my FPS in cod4 to 125. Do I need to increase that to 165 to match my monitor? I can't remember the command, but I believe I ran 2 commands in the cod4 terminal to both change my FPS but also display the actual FPS in the bottom right.

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20 minutes ago, spoonjab said:

Yes. Changed to Fastest on the monitor menu.

Ages ago I set my FPS in cod4 to 125. Do I need to increase that to 165 to match my monitor? I can't remember the command, but I believe I ran 2 commands in the cod4 terminal to both change my FPS but also display the actual FPS in the bottom right.

In the graphics/settings menu of Cod4, there is a separate option to set the refresh rate, I think the max for this is 144hz (at least it is for me), whatever it is, I would set it as close to your monitor as you can.

The one you are talking about is frames per second in the terminal. "/com_maxfps 125" (max 250 allowed on freezetag). I have mine at 125. You can play around with it and see what feels best. Different rates alter the mechanics of the game slightly. To see what you are actually getting is "/cg_drawfps 1" or 0 to turn off. 

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Hello Paul! (@Totty) I have got this one (MSI Optix) and I am very satisfied of it. It's a curved one. Since it is not a new model, it is not expensive.

https://fr.msi.com/Monitor/OPTIX-AG32CQ/Specification

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Oops! didn't see that you already got a new one. Seems to be a good catch! :thumbsup:

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1 hour ago, VHS2 said:

Hello Paul! (@Totty) I have got this one (MSI Optix) and I am very satisfied of it. It's a curved one. Since it is not a new model, it is not expensive.

https://fr.msi.com/Monitor/OPTIX-AG32CQ/Specification

Nice, 

This is mine 

https://uk.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-323UPF

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