Toothpick Posted December 8, 2010 Member ID: 1891 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 12 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1092 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 4 Achievement Points: 6106 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 17, 2012 Birthday: 03/19/1985 Share Posted December 8, 2010 John Cleese, you tell them! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdCdnInfty Posted December 8, 2010 Member ID: 1444 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 39 Topic Count: 412 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3808 Content Per Day: 0.74 Reputation: 1509 Achievement Points: 25299 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 9 Joined: 05/24/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 28, 2023 Birthday: 05/01/1988 Device: Android Share Posted December 8, 2010 lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted December 8, 2010 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Share Posted December 8, 2010 As much as I hate to admit it he makes many valid points. I believe in the last Superbowl there were only 12 minutes of actual play time. But still, soccer in America is viewed, in many cases, as a pansy sport dominated by "Soccer Moms" A sentiment with which I am in agreement. There is very little more boring than soccer, football for the purists out there, other than possibly baseball. In each case you might as well go watch grass grow. How do you get excited about where people run back in forth for 90 minutes and usually fail to score a goal?. No wonder the stands are more exciting to watch than the games. It's a pretty good bet a few scrums will break out in the stands for spectator enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEEJAYKEG Posted December 8, 2010 Member ID: 1238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted December 8, 2010 Very valid questions. American "football" baffles me for another reason. Why, when a "touch down" is scored, does the player not actually have to touch the ball down to the ground but just run over a line?? And why do some of the toughest, meanest, most muscle-bound fitness fanatics in the whole world have to wear a helmet and all that body armour when Rugby players wear a gum shield and padded helmet (to stop their ears being ripped off during play) at most? And why do they shout out the vital statistics of the cheerleaders during play? You've heard them - "36, 24, 36...hup, hup hup!". ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Greasy Posted December 8, 2010 Member ID: 1981 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 4 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 121 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 7 Achievement Points: 930 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/18/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 10/08/1992 Share Posted December 8, 2010 abviously that guy has never watched a game of american football... 9/10 times the quarterback calls the play or changes it to what the defense looks like.... and its not like not like the quarterback tells everyone what to do.. he tells them a play and the other players have to memorize all the plays which ive seen number 300+ and you make a mistake bam other team has the ball.... american football players have to think harder than soccer players the players run up and down a field and hopefully there will be one goal a match. and soccer you trip a guy to the ground and you get ejected.... and to bring rugby into it even though this is between football and soccer. football players wear pads and rugby players dont. it was scientifically proven that football players hit 2-3 times harder than a rugby player so the pads kind of equal it out at the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushape Posted December 8, 2010 Member ID: 839 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 18 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1334 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 64 Achievement Points: 7776 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2020 Birthday: 07/17/1958 Share Posted December 8, 2010 That guy made some valid points like Shamu said. This is a debate that will never be solved or proven, one side thinks one way and the other side thinks the other way. This will never change and nobody is going to convince anybody any different. We Americans like the toughest sport there is and that is American Football. The football players have to think more than soccer players.. In soccer they just run around and try to score. If you can make heads or tails of anything. The only time they have to use their head is to hit the ball with it. I know that is an extreme viewpoint but whatever. I did like playing soccer in PE at school. I know I will get shit about this, but it is just a another Americans biased viewpoint. I am not saying this to piss off our European friends. Lest just agree to disagree, that is the only way to solve this issue. The one sport (if you can call it a sport) that I don't get is wrestling. I agree some things are real but the vast majority is just a bunch of hype in order to keep the sponsors and fans happy. It is not a true sport in the sense of the way people would describe a sport. I don't beleive they should waste the schools money to have in our schools. Why would a couple of sweaty guys rolling around and shit be a sport. I refused to do it when I was in school, because it should of been up to the individual and not mandatory. I just could never understand it. At least in an organized sport, no matter what sport, people learn to work together as a team and that is far more important towards the aspect of real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted December 8, 2010 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Share Posted December 8, 2010 DEEJAYKEG And why do they shout out the vital statistics of the cheerleaders during play? You've heard them - "36, 24, 36...hup, hup hup!". ??? And there you have another reason to watch American Football! Thanks! Does Soccer have any eye candy for the fans viewing pleasure? Might alleviate some of the boredom and help keep the Hooligans in their seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukildme Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 1923 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 234 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1722 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 10/07/1967 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Well, I have to agree with Deejay about one thing, rugby beats both of them hands down. After having played and coached rugby for years, I actually find football a little boring now. Still beats soccer though. Everything beats soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamu Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Share Posted December 9, 2010 Can't argue about Rugby.......really rough game but I still do not know the rules. Would certainly watch Rugby over Soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamu Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Share Posted December 9, 2010 And for John Cleese's benifit he would do well to research English history or at least visit Wikipedia. For his benefit: The term soccer originated in England, first appearing in the 1880s as an Oxford "-er" abbreviation of the word "association" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothpick Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 1891 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 12 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1092 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 4 Achievement Points: 6106 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 17, 2012 Birthday: 03/19/1985 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 But it's just awesome how john cleese makes the comparisson :-) I didn't really ment to start a big discussion of it I just wanted to give you guys a laugh but the discussion is also nice. In my honost opinion I think that it's just part of the culture that us Euro's like football more than american football, baseball and those more typical us-sports. Just look at the international sports where there is a signifcant difference between the places the participants come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEEJAYKEG Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 1238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted December 9, 2010 Shamu DEEJAYKEG And why do they shout out the vital statistics of the cheerleaders during play? You've heard them - "36, 24, 36...hup, hup hup!". ??? And there you have another reason to watch American Football! Thanks! Does Soccer have any eye candy for the fans viewing pleasure? Might alleviate some of the boredom and help keep the Hooligans in their seats. You did ask... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
DEEJAYKEG Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 1238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted December 9, 2010 lilgreasy abviously that guy has never watched a game of american football... 9/10 times the quarterback calls the play or changes it to what the defense looks like.... and its not like not like the quarterback tells everyone what to do.. he tells them a play and the other players have to memorize all the plays which ive seen number 300+ and you make a mistake bam other team has the ball.... american football players have to think harder than soccer players the players run up and down a field and hopefully there will be one goal a match. and soccer you trip a guy to the ground and you get ejected.... and to bring rugby into it even though this is between football and soccer. football players wear pads and rugby players dont. it was scientifically proven that football players hit 2-3 times harder than a rugby player so the pads kind of equal it out at the most. I mentioned rugby because that is the only (internationally played) type of football played using a similarly shaped ball that is carried by the player up the field and is also the sport from which American Football was adapted. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football It is also a contact sport whereas physical contact in association football (that you know as "soccer") is regulated. Yes, according to the rules of the latter, one can be sent off for tripping an opposing player - to do so is unsporting and, if the offender is the last defender, it is a red card offence. Dangerous or violent conduct on the field is similarly punished (and the player usually serves a period of suspension as well as facing a fine.) Unfortunately horrific injuries do occasionally happen. Though I am not an Arsenal fan, I was upset to see their Croatian player Eduardo suffer a compound dislocation of the ankle during one game. The surgeons did a great job and he is now back playing (for an overseas club). I don't know how anyone can measure the relative brain activity of players of various sports. All one can say is the association footballer's brain is working continually for each of the 45-minute halves because the games are not stopped for commercials to be shown. Skill is easier to quantify. Pick a spherical ball up and run with it then put the ball onto the ground and dribble it using only your feet, keeping it under your control, for the same distance. We know the outcome if you want to save yourself the exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
The Buttman Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 1239 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 170 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1232 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 10/05/1972 Share Posted December 9, 2010 If you dont think football (sorry soccer) is Dangerous then you have not seen the Leeds or Wimbledon of the 1980's play. Or as a fan you never went to Millwall, West Ham, Chelsea, Carlisle, Man City in the 1980's. These small clubs got terrible names for the firms (gangs) that followed them. As a kid I went watching BWFC (Bolton Wanderers) away to Man City. The streets around the ground were terraced with back alleys between the backs of houses. We walked past one and within seconds hundreds of thugs were laying into Men, Women and Children with bricks, bottles , scaffolding and more. This was after they had won ! On the pitch careers have been ruined by some truely bad tackles. Head Butts, Biteing, Ball grabing (not the game ball), punches and elbows (not the padded type but the bare knuckle type) are all in the game, you just need to know who to watch and when. The game is cleaner now but this has speeded it up quite a bit. Just search Duncan Ferguson and Everton on youtube. Its every bit as dangerous as American Catch (sorry American football) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Buttman Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 1239 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 170 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1232 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 10/05/1972 Share Posted December 9, 2010 DEEJAYKEG Shamu DEEJAYKEG And why do they shout out the vital statistics of the cheerleaders during play? You've heard them - "36, 24, 36...hup, hup hup!". ??? And there you have another reason to watch American Football! Thanks! Does Soccer have any eye candy for the fans viewing pleasure? Might alleviate some of the boredom and help keep the Hooligans in their seats. You did ask... Ive had worse. Shes a stunner after a few pints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonovabich Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.28 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 07:55 AM Device: Windows Share Posted December 9, 2010 It was much worse in the 70's Buttman, for soccer hooligans and for violence on the field, Leeds got their tag "dirty Leeds" from the Revie team of the late 60's early 70's, if you want to see probably the dirtiest English football match ever, watch the Leeds vs Chelsea fa cup final and replay from 1970, even the pitch was as dirty as the players........anyway Buttman shut up and get your lasses arse out again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unchileno Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 109 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 8133 Content Per Day: 1.51 Reputation: 6747 Achievement Points: 61498 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 04:01 AM Birthday: 01/23/1974 Device: iPhone Share Posted December 9, 2010 SOCCER(FOOTBALL) ALL THE WAY...AND WHY IS IT CALL AMERICAN FOOTBALL..WHEN THERE IS ONLY 1 GUY THAT ACTUALLY KICKS THE BALL...IF YOU DONT LIKE SOCCER YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A MATCH..IS THE NUMBER 1 SPORT IN THE WORLD...CAN WE ALL BE WRONG?......I DONT THINK SO.... THIS IS HOW YOU WE WELCOME MY FAVOURITE TEAM..."COLO COLO".. TOP THAT.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Unchileno Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 109 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 8133 Content Per Day: 1.51 Reputation: 6747 Achievement Points: 61498 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 04:01 AM Birthday: 01/23/1974 Device: iPhone Share Posted December 9, 2010 AND THIS WHAT IS LIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL....GOD I MISSED IT ALL.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.28 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 07:55 AM Device: Windows Share Posted December 9, 2010 Nobody can argue with South Americas love of the great game, just more proof that it is a working class game, and long may it continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothpick Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 1891 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 12 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1092 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 4 Achievement Points: 6106 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 17, 2012 Birthday: 03/19/1985 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 Or watch these crazy fans: awesome as fuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldie Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 75 Topic Count: 244 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3344 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 2644 Achievement Points: 33826 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 12 hours ago Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted December 9, 2010 Bushape That guy made some valid points like Shamu said. This is a debate that will never be solved or proven, one side thinks one way and the other side thinks the other way. This will never change and nobody is going to convince anybody any different. We Americans like the toughest sport there is and that is American Football. The football players have to think more than soccer players.. In soccer they just run around and try to score. If you can make heads or tails of anything. The only time they have to use their head is to hit the ball with it. I know that is an extreme viewpoint but whatever. I did like playing soccer in PE at school. I know I will get shit about this, but it is just a another Americans biased viewpoint. I am not saying this to piss off our European friends. Lest just agree to disagree, that is the only way to solve this issue. The one sport (if you can call it a sport) that I don't get is wrestling. I agree some things are real but the vast majority is just a bunch of hype in order to keep the sponsors and fans happy. It is not a true sport in the sense of the way people would describe a sport. I don't beleive they should waste the schools money to have in our schools. Why would a couple of sweaty guys rolling around and shit be a sport. I refused to do it when I was in school, because it should of been up to the individual and not mandatory. I just could never understand it. At least in an organized sport, no matter what sport, people learn to work together as a team and that is far more important towards the aspect of real life. I am sorry Bushape but I must really disagree with your statement "We Americans like the toughest sport there is and that is American Football" . No offense to you or my American Friends but we British have the toughest sport in the world RUGBY !! There is more play more action AND NO PADDING just raw muscle and bones now thats tough and also NO ADVERTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
KenMan Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2033 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 428 Achievement Points: 10669 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2020 Birthday: 12/04/1948 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Oh so true, but paradoxally the word soccer originated in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.28 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 07:55 AM Device: Windows Share Posted December 9, 2010 Sorry Bushape but after reading your reply it's obvious you ain't got a clue about football m8, in football they often have a split second to think and decide what they are gonna do next, not like American football where they all get together in a heap and get told what the next play is going to be and exactly where they all have to run to....a bit like a robot really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heffalump Posted December 9, 2010 Member ID: 819 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 27 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1060 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 186 Achievement Points: 6125 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 25, 2020 Birthday: 11/22/1971 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Rugby all the way, loved playing it, great to watch, plenty of argy-bargy too! My mate is off to Twickers today to watch the varsity match lucky Bastard! C'mon Oxford! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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