Shamu Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Posted August 13, 2011 For the moment I am very pleased to see Perry has joined the race. Unfortunately it is reality that personality and charisma trumps ability in our Presidential elections. Perry is well noted for his speaking and debating abilities, I hope it's enough to win the primary and then give Obama a boot in the butt out the door of the White House. http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/08/13/perry/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Curious about what our Texans think of him.
NickTheGrip Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 177 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 145 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1669 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 281 Achievement Points: 10581 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2023 Birthday: 05/08/1961 Posted August 13, 2011 I am not from Texas, but most of what I have heard so far has not been very flattering. I know a couple of people who relocated to Texas and they said that, while it is true that he has created a lot of jobs, most of them seem to be of the minimum wage type. He has also cut the education budget drastically, and failed miserably at balancing the budget. Also his secessionist speeches will work against him. Do you want a guy who wanted to secede from the US to run the US...hmmmmm I also would be interested to hear what our Texans say. To be honest I would also like to hear from the Minnesota contingent about Pawlenty and Bachmann. Here in Michigan they are painting Bachmann as even more crazy than Palin so it would be interesting to hear the people she has been representing. Actually my congressman (if I can call him that without throwing up in my mouth a little) has made even more of a mockery of the presidential primary than most. He is that guitar toting fool McCotter and is the most worthless unit ever born. Of course, the area he represents is 95% Republican so he never gets challenged. I hope he does this time. Awards
Super Max Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 558 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 578 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3795 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1504 Achievement Points: 29179 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Saturday at 07:12 AM Birthday: 06/09/1964 Device: Windows Posted August 13, 2011 I go also for president I am billionaire and have played in movies. Have many friends in the arms industry and oil industry I think I make a chance to win Awards
Pondscumz Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 1723 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 166 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 1 Achievement Points: 1375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 5, 2015 Birthday: 01/16/1960 Posted August 13, 2011 I am a Romney supporter. I was a county coordinator for him in the last election. He is weak on social issues but this shouldn't be an issue as long as the right judges are picked. I think that we need a strong businessman in the White House. I am not too concern about him being a Mormon, I don't think he will be preaching to the masses. I would really like to see Chris Christie run.
Ferret Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 859 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 681 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 10 Achievement Points: 4117 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 9, 2014 Birthday: 11/04/1968 Posted August 13, 2011 It will be interesting. There is bad blood between Perry & the Bushes, and also with Mike Huckabee. Which isn't good for Perry. Perry has blamed Bush for some problems in Texas that he couldn't fix (imagine THAT). Perry & Huckabee were very close friends/ allies & worked together extensively, until Perry turned on Huckabee and broke a commitment at the last second in 2008, to endorse McCain instead of Huckabee - which hurt Huckabee's chances badly in the primaries and pissed him off (which I don't blame him for). Bush still has a good deal of power in the Republican party, and Huckabee is a very popular & well-liked man in conservative circles and has a show on FoxNews. I like Perry OK, but he has made a few "not-so-astute" political moves. As Nick said, he did make a mistake in even mentioning "secession".... of course it was WAY overblown by the liberal 98% of the mainstream media... but it didn't show real good political judgement. I also think he emphasises his religion too much. Now I am with him on that personally, but the Republican candidate will ALREADY have most of the "religious right's" votes in the can - he needs to focus more on getting the critical "independent" votes which will decide the next President. We *all* know that the liberal mainstream media is going to SHRED the Republican candidate every chance they get, I don't know if Perry has learned how to avoid the traps just yet, that ANY republican candidate will be faced with. Granted, he IS very good at local politics...... but national politics & the extremely biased liberal mainstream media takes more skill to navigate through. The more the merrier, but at this point I'd say it is Romney's nomination unless he implodes. From the way most of the candidates avoided attacking Romney directly in the Republican debate the other night, I'd say that Bachman & Pawlenty are now running for VP, and I think Perry might be wise to do the same. For what it's worth, Romney wouldn't be my first choice, but he seems to be the best overall chance to send Obama back to the union mafia toilet in Chicago, from where he came.
LittleTooT Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 113 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 19 Topic Count: 156 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1295 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 207 Achievement Points: 8353 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 17, 2018 Birthday: 07/11/1969 Posted August 13, 2011 Your best bet Awards
LittleTooT Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 113 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 19 Topic Count: 156 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1295 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 207 Achievement Points: 8353 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 17, 2018 Birthday: 07/11/1969 Posted August 13, 2011 Or this, its a 2 party system, what you gonna do!! LOL Here is who we elected Silly Americans!!! Awards
TBB Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 291 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 21172 Content Per Day: 3.75 Reputation: 22852 Achievement Points: 151880 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 410 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Posted August 13, 2011 Rugger for pres! Awards
Sweatnbullets Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 213 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 820 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 521 Achievement Points: 5654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 16 Birthday: 06/06/1963 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2011 Texas does have Jobs... only Red states have jobs. I am interested in Perry... But not Republicans or Democrats.. Im from MN... Bachman has the media painting her as a kook.... Media types are biased..But she may be a Kook. Pawlenty may be the most middle of the road...Good person running. But he was only an Ok Governor. Did leave the state with debt and never kicked out illegals or made Welfare recipients get drug tested. We need someone with Balls to make hard choices.... Awards
hxtr Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 14, 2011 Perry needs to stay in Texas and out of the race as he ain't going to win.... Lt Governor Dewhurst has done all the work in Texas.. not Perry. Ron Paul my first choice.... wont get elected. Newt my second.... wont get elected. but I think the winning ticket would be... Mitt Romney 4 pres and Herman Cain 4 vice... they would do the job just fine in my opinion and I think they can get elected.
Blackbart Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 51 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 342 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5974 Content Per Day: 1.03 Reputation: 3766 Achievement Points: 45818 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 06/26/1949 Posted August 14, 2011 Ron Paul for President Herman Cain for Vice President... Awards
Damage_inc- Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Posted August 14, 2011 So Close! Paul 27.65%, Bachmann 28.56% The Congressman gained 27.65% of the vote, closely missing Michele Bachmann’s 28.56% by only 152 votes, but easily surpassing Tim Pawlenty, Rick Santorum, Herman Cain and other candidates. you should vote for the best man.Ill again vote for Ron Paul.If you dont know who he is or what he stands for shame on you. Awards
hxtr Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 14, 2011 Blackbart Ron Paul for President Herman Cain for Vice President... I love that idea Bart. I so love Ron Paul and his domestic policy is perfect.. but his foreign policy can use some work. He wants to isolate way to much. But I myself and a isolationist but not sure how that will work ignoring shit fucks like the government of Iran. I dont want them to get a nuke. But Israel will take care of that.. and funny thing is.. Saudi Arabia wants us US/Israel to do something about them. Cant nuke them yet.. but we can sure destroy their centrafuse and inhibit their ability to create one or I hope. Ron wants to let them do what they want when they want. Not sure... no I don't agree with that. But I will take my chances... Ron Paul Pres..... Herman Cain Vice. They will do a wonderful job.
Ferret Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 859 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 681 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 10 Achievement Points: 4117 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 9, 2014 Birthday: 11/04/1968 Posted August 14, 2011 Blackbart Ron Paul for President Herman Cain for Vice President... Being a Libertarian, I have always kinda liked Paul. But in the Republican debate the other night, his answer basically saying "let Iran have nukes, everybody else has them" was a loser. A bad one. That will come back to haunt him when he gets to the more populous & influential states. I like 90% of what Paul says & stands for.... but that Iran answer *really* turned me off, and will do the same for many/most defense-minded Republicans. I understand the points of non-intervention in other countries' affairs, and other nations having nukes... but they aren't outright, *self-admitted* terrorist states like Iran is. If/ when Iran gets a nuke, it WILL be used, and the world will change for the worse. He took it a little too far. Cain is an extremely intelligent man, and I really like his economic prowess. But he is a political novice, still has a tendency to gaffe, and the liberal media & DC political machine would eat him alive. I see him getting a Cabinet or economic advisory position to learn the trade better. He is still young enough to run again later, but as we saw with Obama - the White House is no place for on-the-job-training. Gingrich is the smartest one of the bunch, but he is a bit quirky and I don't believe electable. Bachman is a seasoned veteran of Congress & spent a few years as a Federal Tax Litigation Prosecutor, so she knows the system. She is smarter than Palin, has more kids, has more experience, and is a fierce "Mama Grizzly" in her own right. And the liberal media has unfairly demonized Palin fairly effectively, but Backman handles that better... and the left really hurt their own "tolerance" credibility in destroying Palin - which opens the door for a female candidate. Pawlenty & Perry are pretty good, but not ready for "prime-time" just yet. The rest, besides Romney, are "also-rans". Romney is a bit "centrist" for me.... but remember, the Independent vote is what is going to win/ lose the election. Also remember that the next President must be a President for ALL the people. Bush was President for the right-most 40% of America. Obama has been President for the left-most 10% of America. Extremists don't make for good Presidents. And I believe that another extremist President will only make the dangerous divide even worse, which hurts ALL of us, including the rest of the world. I toyed with the idea of supporting a Bachman/ Cain ticket.... but in honesty, I realized that it was because it would simply humiliate liberals/ Democrat party, to take away both the race card & sex card. Without the race/ sex cards, Democrats would be forced to run on their record, and would humiliate themselves doing so. But this isn't about humiliating the other side, it is about getting a better President than what we have now. I truly care about America, and I have to correct myself from indulging in the slanderous hate-fiesta, that Progressives have created. Priority #1 is getting Obama the hell out of office. He is an utter failure in nearly every measurable way, like it or not. History will decide if he is the worst President in history... but he is on a good path towards that. Acknowledging that things could change, at this point I am looking at a Romney/Bachman ticket. Romney because he is the most "centrist" candidate running (and the best chance to get Independent votes & send Obama's sorry ass packing back to Chicago), and Bachman because she is a sharp, effective, rigorous conservative. Partisan horseshit aside, the MOST important thing at this point is replacing Obama. ANYONE would be better, but let's remember that the President is President for ALL the people, and let's just take the safest, most pragmatic route to improving the country and our horrid state of politics as they are now. Another Obama term WOULD be an economic holocost, and I am not confident we would survive that. Sometimes I choke a little bit with Romney, but Obama makes me puke. Sometimes you have to settle for less than you want, to avoid all-out disaster. And another Obama term WOULD be an all-out disaster for the country I love.
Shamu Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Author Posted August 14, 2011 I noticed a very Dark Horse came in fourth, Rick Santorum. Very conservative and do not give him much of a chance but he could land on someones ticket as a VP candidate.
hxtr Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 14, 2011 Ferret Blackbart Ron Paul for President Herman Cain for Vice President... Being a Libertarian, I have always kinda liked Paul. But in the Republican debate the other night, his answer basically saying "let Iran have nukes, everybody else has them" was a loser. A bad one. That will come back to haunt him when he gets to the more populous & influential states. I like 90% of what Paul says & stands for.... but that Iran answer *really* turned me off, and will do the same for many/most defense-minded Republicans. I understand the points of non-intervention in other countries' affairs, and other nations having nukes... but they aren't outright, *self-admitted* terrorist states like Iran is. If/ when Iran gets a nuke, it WILL be used, and the world will change for the worse. He took it a little too far. Cain is an extremely intelligent man, and I really like his economic prowess. But he is a political novice, still has a tendency to gaffe, and the liberal media & DC political machine would eat him alive. I see him getting a Cabinet or economic advisory position to learn the trade better. He is still young enough to run again later, but as we saw with Obama - the White House is no place for on-the-job-training. Gingrich is the smartest one of the bunch, but he is a bit quirky and I don't believe electable. Bachman is a seasoned veteran of Congress & spent a few years as a Federal Tax Litigation Prosecutor, so she knows the system. She is smarter than Palin, has more kids, has more experience, and is a fierce "Mama Grizzly" in her own right. And the liberal media has unfairly demonized Palin fairly effectively, but Backman handles that better... and the left really hurt their own "tolerance" credibility in destroying Palin - which opens the door for a female candidate. Pawlenty & Perry are pretty good, but not ready for "prime-time" just yet. The rest, besides Romney, are "also-rans". Romney is a bit "centrist" for me.... but remember, the Independent vote is what is going to win/ lose the election. Also remember that the next President must be a President for ALL the people. Bush was President for the right-most 40% of America. Obama has been President for the left-most 10% of America. Extremists don't make for good Presidents. And I believe that another extremist President will only make the dangerous divide even worse, which hurts ALL of us, including the rest of the world. I toyed with the idea of supporting a Bachman/ Cain ticket.... but in honesty, I realized that it was because it would simply humiliate liberals/ Democrat party, to take away both the race card & sex card. Without the race/ sex cards, Democrats would be forced to run on their record, and would humiliate themselves doing so. But this isn't about humiliating the other side, it is about getting a better President than what we have now. I truly care about America, and I have to correct myself from indulging in the slanderous hate-fiesta, that Progressives have created. Priority #1 is getting Obama the hell out of office. He is an utter failure in nearly every measurable way, like it or not. History will decide if he is the worst President in history... but he is on a good path towards that. Acknowledging that things could change, at this point I am looking at a Romney/Bachman ticket. Romney because he is the most "centrist" candidate running (and the best chance to get Independent votes & send Obama's sorry ass packing back to Chicago), and Bachman because she is a sharp, effective, rigorous conservative. Partisan horseshit aside, the MOST important thing at this point is replacing Obama. ANYONE would be better, but let's remember that the President is President for ALL the people, and let's just take the safest, most pragmatic route to improving the country and our horrid state of politics as they are now. Another Obama term WOULD be an economic holocost, and I am not confident we would survive that. Sometimes I choke a little bit with Romney, but Obama makes me puke. Sometimes you have to settle for less than you want, to avoid all-out disaster. And another Obama term WOULD be an all-out disaster for the country I love. i can agree with all that............. Well put you varmint. One note... look at Biden. A babbling stupid Fing idiot. Why I would not mind Herman Cain as Vice but I would def support Bachman. She has big ass balls compared to Palin Pete's sweet heart and she can debate her points with confidence. She so impressed me in the debate last night... or the other day now. Plus.... she is way hot. lol But hands down like you said.. Newt is the smartest one in the bunch. So either... Romney/Herman Romney/Bachman But I still love Ron Paul... but would love to see Rand Paul in our future.
Blackbart Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 51 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 51 Topic Count: 342 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5974 Content Per Day: 1.03 Reputation: 3766 Achievement Points: 45818 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 06/26/1949 Posted August 14, 2011 Ferret Blackbart Ron Paul for President Herman Cain for Vice President... Being a Libertarian, I have always kinda liked Paul. But in the Republican debate the other night, his answer basically saying "let Iran have nukes, everybody else has them" was a loser. A bad one. That will come back to haunt him when he gets to the more populous & influential states. I like 90% of what Paul says & stands for.... but that Iran answer *really* turned me off, and will do the same for many/most defense-minded Republicans. I understand the points of non-intervention in other countries' affairs, and other nations having nukes... but they aren't outright, *self-admitted* terrorist states like Iran is. If/ when Iran gets a nuke, it WILL be used, and the world will change for the worse. He took it a little too far. Cain is an extremely intelligent man, and I really like his economic prowess. But he is a political novice, still has a tendency to gaffe, and the liberal media & DC political machine would eat him alive. I see him getting a Cabinet or economic advisory position to learn the trade better. He is still young enough to run again later, but as we saw with Obama - the White House is no place for on-the-job-training. Gingrich is the smartest one of the bunch, but he is a bit quirky and I don't believe electable. Bachman is a seasoned veteran of Congress & spent a few years as a Federal Tax Litigation Prosecutor, so she knows the system. She is smarter than Palin, has more kids, has more experience, and is a fierce "Mama Grizzly" in her own right. And the liberal media has unfairly demonized Palin fairly effectively, but Backman handles that better... and the left really hurt their own "tolerance" credibility in destroying Palin - which opens the door for a female candidate. Pawlenty & Perry are pretty good, but not ready for "prime-time" just yet. The rest, besides Romney, are "also-rans". Romney is a bit "centrist" for me.... but remember, the Independent vote is what is going to win/ lose the election. Also remember that the next President must be a President for ALL the people. Bush was President for the right-most 40% of America. Obama has been President for the left-most 10% of America. Extremists don't make for good Presidents. And I believe that another extremist President will only make the dangerous divide even worse, which hurts ALL of us, including the rest of the world. I toyed with the idea of supporting a Bachman/ Cain ticket.... but in honesty, I realized that it was because it would simply humiliate liberals/ Democrat party, to take away both the race card & sex card. Without the race/ sex cards, Democrats would be forced to run on their record, and would humiliate themselves doing so. But this isn't about humiliating the other side, it is about getting a better President than what we have now. I truly care about America, and I have to correct myself from indulging in the slanderous hate-fiesta, that Progressives have created. Priority #1 is getting Obama the hell out of office. He is an utter failure in nearly every measurable way, like it or not. History will decide if he is the worst President in history... but he is on a good path towards that. Acknowledging that things could change, at this point I am looking at a Romney/Bachman ticket. Romney because he is the most "centrist" candidate running (and the best chance to get Independent votes & send Obama's sorry ass packing back to Chicago), and Bachman because she is a sharp, effective, rigorous conservative. Partisan horseshit aside, the MOST important thing at this point is replacing Obama. ANYONE would be better, but let's remember that the President is President for ALL the people, and let's just take the safest, most pragmatic route to improving the country and our horrid state of politics as they are now. Another Obama term WOULD be an economic holocost, and I am not confident we would survive that. Sometimes I choke a little bit with Romney, but Obama makes me puke. Sometimes you have to settle for less than you want, to avoid all-out disaster. And another Obama term WOULD be an all-out disaster for the country I love. I didn't like Ron Paul's answer about the Iran nuke situation either...But his point was we have been meddling in others affairs too much...I still would like to see him as the front runner...He knows more about the Constitution and how the Federal Government was meant by our founding fathers to be run than anyone else running...As for Herman Cain's political experience or lack there of that's why I would like to see him as a VP on the ticket of who ever becomes the front runner...He would bring the business savy to the ticket to get this country back to work...A Romney/Bachman is probably what we will end up with...Although not my first choice it is a ticket that will beat Obama and as you say that is the most important thing right now... Awards
hxtr Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 14, 2011 Blackbart Ferret Blackbart Ron Paul for President Herman Cain for Vice President... Being a Libertarian, I have always kinda liked Paul. But in the Republican debate the other night, his answer basically saying "let Iran have nukes, everybody else has them" was a loser. A bad one. That will come back to haunt him when he gets to the more populous & influential states. I like 90% of what Paul says & stands for.... but that Iran answer *really* turned me off, and will do the same for many/most defense-minded Republicans. I understand the points of non-intervention in other countries' affairs, and other nations having nukes... but they aren't outright, *self-admitted* terrorist states like Iran is. If/ when Iran gets a nuke, it WILL be used, and the world will change for the worse. He took it a little too far. Cain is an extremely intelligent man, and I really like his economic prowess. But he is a political novice, still has a tendency to gaffe, and the liberal media & DC political machine would eat him alive. I see him getting a Cabinet or economic advisory position to learn the trade better. He is still young enough to run again later, but as we saw with Obama - the White House is no place for on-the-job-training. Gingrich is the smartest one of the bunch, but he is a bit quirky and I don't believe electable. Bachman is a seasoned veteran of Congress & spent a few years as a Federal Tax Litigation Prosecutor, so she knows the system. She is smarter than Palin, has more kids, has more experience, and is a fierce "Mama Grizzly" in her own right. And the liberal media has unfairly demonized Palin fairly effectively, but Backman handles that better... and the left really hurt their own "tolerance" credibility in destroying Palin - which opens the door for a female candidate. Pawlenty & Perry are pretty good, but not ready for "prime-time" just yet. The rest, besides Romney, are "also-rans". Romney is a bit "centrist" for me.... but remember, the Independent vote is what is going to win/ lose the election. Also remember that the next President must be a President for ALL the people. Bush was President for the right-most 40% of America. Obama has been President for the left-most 10% of America. Extremists don't make for good Presidents. And I believe that another extremist President will only make the dangerous divide even worse, which hurts ALL of us, including the rest of the world. I toyed with the idea of supporting a Bachman/ Cain ticket.... but in honesty, I realized that it was because it would simply humiliate liberals/ Democrat party, to take away both the race card & sex card. Without the race/ sex cards, Democrats would be forced to run on their record, and would humiliate themselves doing so. But this isn't about humiliating the other side, it is about getting a better President than what we have now. I truly care about America, and I have to correct myself from indulging in the slanderous hate-fiesta, that Progressives have created. Priority #1 is getting Obama the hell out of office. He is an utter failure in nearly every measurable way, like it or not. History will decide if he is the worst President in history... but he is on a good path towards that. Acknowledging that things could change, at this point I am looking at a Romney/Bachman ticket. Romney because he is the most "centrist" candidate running (and the best chance to get Independent votes & send Obama's sorry ass packing back to Chicago), and Bachman because she is a sharp, effective, rigorous conservative. Partisan horseshit aside, the MOST important thing at this point is replacing Obama. ANYONE would be better, but let's remember that the President is President for ALL the people, and let's just take the safest, most pragmatic route to improving the country and our horrid state of politics as they are now. Another Obama term WOULD be an economic holocost, and I am not confident we would survive that. Sometimes I choke a little bit with Romney, but Obama makes me puke. Sometimes you have to settle for less than you want, to avoid all-out disaster. And another Obama term WOULD be an all-out disaster for the country I love. I didn't like Ron Paul's answer about the Iran nuke situation either...But his point was we have been meddling in others affairs too much...I still would like to see him as the front runner...He knows more about the Constitution and how the Federal Government was meant by our founding fathers to be run than anyone else running...As for Herman Cain's political experience or lack there of that's why I would like to see him as a VP on the ticket of who ever becomes the front runner...He would bring the business savy to the ticket to get this country back to work...A Romney/Bachman is probably what we will end up with...Although not my first choice it is a ticket that will beat Obama and as you say that is the most important thing right now... +16,000,000,000,000
Ferret Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 859 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 681 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 10 Achievement Points: 4117 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 9, 2014 Birthday: 11/04/1968 Posted August 14, 2011 hxtr i can agree with all that............. Well put you varmint. One note... look at Biden. A babbling stupid Fing idiot. Why I would not mind Herman Cain as Vice but I would def support Bachman. She has big ass balls compared to Palin Pete's sweet heart and she can debate her points with confidence. She so impressed me in the debate last night... or the other day now. Plus.... she is way hot. lol But hands down like you said.. Newt is the smartest one in the bunch. So either... Romney/Herman Romney/Bachman But I still love Ron Paul... but would love to see Rand Paul in our future. I like Rand... but just like Cain, he needs to get a little more experience before jumping into the wolf's den of Washington DC & the Democrat media. Rand needs to marinate & get more footing in Congress (there is most certainly a future for him), and Cain would best serve the country by advising our next President on how economics/ capitalism actually works. My personal favorite is Newt, the man is a friggin' genius.... he is one of the smartest men in all of DC. But he comes off like a nutty professor sometimes, I think his intellect often gets ahead of his judgement. Unfortunately, I think Ron destroyed any chances with that Iran answer.
PigDog Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 222 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 88 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3847 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 1628 Achievement Points: 25635 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 02/05/1968 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2011 Wow, more and more choices everyday. I must say, Ferret, that you are very well educated on all of these facts and I do enjoy our posts...kudos to our varmint bretheren. As far as a Texans view on Perry.....wow, will the country really elect another Governor from Texas? I like the guy enough, although the other posts haev pegged it just right, he has taken away from education and nmot balanced the budget. Texas has faired very well throughout these tough economic times, but I think that is from the people below Perry, not Perry himself. He is a figurehead. I am traditionally a conservative republican, but I am trying to look at the candidate and not the party. Hell, anything is better than Obama right now, so I just want to figure out who can beat him! I like a lot of what Ron Paul says, although I think he blew it with the bonehead statement about Iran and nukes. What a screw up that was. I would love to see the IRS go away and the tax structure changed significantly. Hell, even the Sec. of the Treasury can't do his fucking taxes right, how do they expect the rest of us to get them right??!!! Right now I have no idea who I will be voting for. There is still a while left before we have to pull the lever, so I am hoping for a white knight to ride out of the pack and really take control of the election on the conservative side of things. We just need to get the Socialists out of power!! Awards
Ferret Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 859 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 681 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 10 Achievement Points: 4117 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 9, 2014 Birthday: 11/04/1968 Posted August 14, 2011 Blackbart I didn't like Ron Paul's answer about the Iran nuke situation either...But his point was we have been meddling in others affairs too much...I still would like to see him as the front runner...He knows more about the Constitution and how the Federal Government was meant by our founding fathers to be run than anyone else running...As for Herman Cain's political experience or lack there of that's why I would like to see him as a VP on the ticket of who ever becomes the front runner...He would bring the business savy to the ticket to get this country back to work...A Romney/Bachman is probably what we will end up with...Although not my first choice it is a ticket that will beat Obama and as you say that is the most important thing right now... True that..... I am just being pragmatic. Cain needs to serve a term in the cabinet (Commerce Secretary maybe), and build up his bonafides in politics. Cain, Rand, and Bachman have bright futures. Perry maybe, and Chris Christie will be a force to be reckoned with. But we need to climb out of the hole we are in, before we start climbing the mountain.
Damage_inc- Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Posted August 14, 2011 I agree the iran nuke answer will haunt him but I like most agreee with 90% of what he says also ..The difference between what RON PAUL says and does is close to nothing .All the other candidates and politicians Ive ever heard DO THE OPPOSITE and have almost all LIED and changed there opinions RON PAUL has not he is true to his word.Look at his voting record.Why do you think they call him DR no. Awards
GorillaXI Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Posted August 14, 2011 Rick Perry has created more jobs in the state of Texas then Dumbbama has created in the entire US. Thats all I'm gonna say on this topic. God bless Texas...
PimpedOutPete Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15031 Content Per Day: 2.60 Reputation: 8047 Achievement Points: 92232 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Posted August 14, 2011 Shamu I noticed a very Dark Horse came in fourth, Rick Santorum. Very conservative and do not give him much of a chance but he could land on someones ticket as a VP candidate. Now go and Google "Santorum"... Can only imagine the comedy in that!!.. *haha* Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted August 14, 2011 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 130 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 15031 Content Per Day: 2.60 Reputation: 8047 Achievement Points: 92232 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 59 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Posted August 14, 2011 I do find this amusing to say the least... Ferret has it right. Do you conservatives vote for whom you like or who has a chance to win?.. You vote for Bachman, Perry or Paul.. You get four more years of Obama. Moderates like myself cant stomach the thought of any of them in the White House.. You vote for a moderate?.. You have a 50/50 chance and a horse race. Obama has killed the US ecomony but im not sure if it would have been any better with a republican... No one knows.. Awards
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