Warface Posted October 7, 2012 Member ID: 490 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 446 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 350 Achievement Points: 3309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/25/1973 Device: Windows Share Posted October 7, 2012 im with you cobra,,thats why i dont use them,,i have been playing with cobra,,,heard him say thats my package dont take it,,yet someone will anyway..I think that is a kickable offence for the first and let them explain why they did it after the person said "hey im coming back for it,leave it alone"you dont need a mic to hear what someone is saying,theres no excuse for doing it,,maybe after you say it type it so its in the logs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Jackal Posted October 7, 2012 Member ID: 3623 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 14 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 61 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 23 Achievement Points: 664 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/09/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2012 This just pisses me off! I hate it when people steal other's care packages. Like when I was playing today, there was this new guy named "Jean Pants" and he was SO close to steal I THINK it was AstaRN's package I don't remember exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter Posted October 7, 2012 Member ID: 459 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 23 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 776 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 401 Achievement Points: 5416 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Why didn't you just ask who's package it was first Shooter,through voicechat, remember not everyone playing on our servers can speak or type good English. Bottom line is if you didn't call for the care package then it's not yours, just leave it alone, remember people have had to earn that package and then it gets stolen and we wonder why arguments start. i did ask it on voice chat and on team chat....i wouldn't take it if someone would say it was of him or her. i told you nobody claimed it so i took it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter Posted October 7, 2012 Member ID: 459 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 23 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 776 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 401 Achievement Points: 5416 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2012 but it still wonder how people can steal it from you when you're right nexto it.... this is what people mean here or am i wrong? if you have that /+activate thing on, you can grab it instantly if it drops on the ground, it doesn't bounce like in mw3 or mw2.....yes it's not fair and messes up peoples mood but if your so stupid to drop it in a place where everyone spawns or where everyone is camping...i'm sorry but thats just asking to get it stolen. some people don't get even a 3ks so yes they try to steal it. call it in on a safe place....maps are big enough to find one. i'm more angry about friendlies trowing that stupid grey or purple smoke...that messes up things, but we need a differend topic for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted October 7, 2012 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 7, 2012 A techie explanation follows... No it doesnt bounce in this case. Game limitation. It is possible to convert something like that to a physics model which is done for exploding cars and barrels that shoot up etc. But once done it is impossible to get its actual location. So the trigger radiuses needed for knowing that you are actually standing next to it couldnt be put there. Tried various ways around that including making a manually controlled bounding box but it was too expensive in terms of computational power and not %100 reliable to actually find the ground or obstructions. MW2/3/BO did it by introducing a 'workaround' for lack of a better word. They didnt change how physics objects work in the game engine. Instead it seems the maps themselves have a built-in invisible box that is the same kind of thing used to surround cars which cannot be created at runtime. Only cloned. The care package model and trigger radius follows it. A brush model for the mappers out there. Anyways, are you suggesting friendlies shouldnt magically see or be affected by the smoke while the enemy is? But I agree this is a teamwork problem nothing more. Over the years some servers I have played the teams talk to and work together constantly. Quite a different experience than those that dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
(ELS) MAC 11 Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 3710 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 40 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 8 Achievement Points: 288 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 13, 2012 Birthday: 07/08/1995 Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) Yes,Ccobra Bites. I admit that i had stole one package on 6/10/12 about 11:00am. The pacatage was a UAV Guided Missle and the owner was StAnZe ( or something like that ). He call the package in the enemy spawn point because there are like 3 left. When i join the game, the package was dropped, so i think that the package is from the opposite team. I had asked by the team speak thing and no one answer me, so I took it and after that i found out that it is stanze. I apologize a lot of time already and I promise i will not do that again. PS: I just steal ONE care package in the whole time playing in this server. I didn't stole any one's else. Edited October 8, 2012 by (ELS) MAC 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 2083 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3554 Content Per Day: 0.73 Reputation: 4992 Achievement Points: 23761 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/31/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 14, 2014 Birthday: 10/20/1962 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I wonder who GRABBED your package Cobra?...I vow to find this thief and punish him according to XI rules..Give us a HINT Cobra..High...Eye colors...Skin complexion...DOES HE HAVE A BIG MOUTH?. Yes he does have a big mouth it was that MAC 11 fellow, at least I think hes a fellow..... :hrhr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 2083 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3554 Content Per Day: 0.73 Reputation: 4992 Achievement Points: 23761 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/31/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 14, 2014 Birthday: 10/20/1962 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I accidentally took a care package in the first couple days of me being on servers and got a stern lecture and never again will I without permission if at all.. LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE :hrhr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraBites Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Yes,Ccobra Bites. I admit that i had stole one package on 6/10/12 about 11:00am. The pacatage was a UAV Guided Missle and the owner was StAnZe ( or something like that ). He call the package in the enemy spawn point because there are like 3 left. When i join the game, the package was dropped, so i think that the package is from the opposite team. I had asked by the team speak thing and no one answer me, so I took it and after that i found out that it is stanze. I apologize a lot of time already and I promise i will not do that again. PS: I just steal ONE care package in the whole time playing in this server. I didn't stole any one's else. thats not what i been hearing..and i know for fact you stole one of mine b4 as well then u lied bout it just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonovabich Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:05 PM Device: Windows Share Posted October 8, 2012 I propose taking them out of the game altogether, it's obviously people are still taking no notice, us admins have enough to watch out for without having to break up petty little squabbles over these things. Warface and shooter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPapaDean Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6529 Content Per Day: 1.25 Reputation: 4411 Achievement Points: 63453 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:24 AM Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted October 8, 2012 ITS SEXY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
MadMonk64 Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 1959 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 114 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 272 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 95 Achievement Points: 2569 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/09/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 26, 2022 Birthday: 05/30/1946 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Whoa up! Taking them out defeats the whole purpose of trying rack up points. Better suggestion would be: 1. Add it to the rules 2 . Warn the player only twice, that they can't steal another player's package. 3. Punishment for violation- Kick off server a couple of times to get the message across- And if that doesn't work ban the putz. MonkeyDK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
CobraBites Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 i dont have problem keeping them just wish people would respect that if u workd to earn it leave it alone..or wish they was way to set it where only u or the enemie can get them that would be nice too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 8, 2012 Taking something that is fun out of the game is not a solution. It penalizes everybody because of a few dumb asses. Bad manners can ruin any game. As for only you or enemies that defeats part of the purpose. It should allow friends to take the package if for some reason you cannot. Think of it this way. Your team is down 1-15 and your standing next an unclaimed friendly RC-XD package where the owner is frozen. If you could get it to unfreeze many of your teammates that alone would make friendlies taking packages worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted October 8, 2012 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 8, 2012 Add to above: If an admin thinks a player is being really annoying he can always do this and let the fun begin. J3st3r and JAH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
terracyrax Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 2774 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 14 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 169 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 75 Achievement Points: 1172 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/27/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2018 Birthday: 05/04/1978 Share Posted October 10, 2012 i've had mine stolen a few times in our own spawn and the jerk saw me call it in wasn't even dead and he grabs it i think cobra remembers my complaining in game chat and on xfire about it. now if i was killed and frozen then it's fine but not when i am moving and waiting for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:05 PM Device: Windows Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) If they were fun we would not be posting here, i go in the server everyday lately and have to listen to certain players going on about care packages and who steals them, then have to listen to the other person defend themselves, it don't sound like they are having fun at all. Monk what did you do with all your points before care packages were introduced, remember they are just a new thing (amongst many) in ftag, you just used your points on other perks, as for adding warnings, i find people don't read any rules before they join a server or hardly read any pop up messages on the screen as they appear and i really don't want to start kicking people who maybe cannot understand good English because they did not understand an on screen message etc and that's basically what we are talking about, it is usually strangers who take the packages, if it is a long time player in our server who knows what is going on and takes them without asking then there is no excuse for that, you can put all the messages you like but it won't stop the arguments when it happens. Edited October 10, 2012 by Sonovabich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted October 10, 2012 If they were fun we would not be posting here, i go in the server everyday now and have to listen to certain players going on about care packages and who steals them, then have to listen to the other person defend themselves, it don't sound like they are having fun at all. It depends on how you play the game. If everyone did nothing but run around and spam 3x nades with sonic boom it wouldnt be very fun either. But in this case any discussion should be easy. Did the player who took it even try to ask first? If he did but nobody said boo about it then ok. But if he didnt, or the owner said no and the guy took it anyways, then that is a rules infraction and should be handled appropriately. My own pov is to not worry about designing around douchbags. That is left to the admins, as it should be, and they should be given the tools to deal with such people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:05 PM Device: Windows Share Posted October 10, 2012 Sammy what you are proposing about us admins being able to punish others for indiscretions sounds and looks great, but we already had stuff in place like that a couple of years ago but Rugger removed it because he felt it was being abused by some admins, if Rugger approved it, it would be great but it still leaves it open to abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 459 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 23 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 776 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 401 Achievement Points: 5416 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Sammy what you are proposing about us admins being able to punish others for indiscretions sounds and looks great, but we already had stuff in place like that a couple of years ago but Rugger removed it because he felt it was being abused by some admins, if Rugger approved it, it would be great but it still leaves it open to abuse. well i think if your an admin, you have to maintane a form of leadership and example for the rest of us....if you abuse it, well are you worth it to have those ADM tags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonovabich Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:05 PM Device: Windows Share Posted October 10, 2012 I think it is a good idea but i know if we do get it, it will only be a matter of time before some disgruntled player goes running to Rugger and tells him we are abusing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanG Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 824 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 317 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 168 Achievement Points: 2144 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2023 Birthday: 03/08/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted October 10, 2012 Yes,Ccobra Bites. I admit that i had stole one package on 6/10/12 about 11:00am. The pacatage was a UAV Guided Missle and the owner was StAnZe ( or something like that ). He call the package in the enemy spawn point because there are like 3 left. When i join the game, the package was dropped, so i think that the package is from the opposite team. I had asked by the team speak thing and no one answer me, so I took it and after that i found out that it is stanze. I apologize a lot of time already and I promise i will not do that again. PS: I just steal ONE care package in the whole time playing in this server. I didn't stole any one's else. TO FUNNY MAC 11 , u were in the game for 2 rounds first off , second i was telling u on voice chat not to take the package . u just didnt listen like u never do and say after u do something O i didnt know it was yours or i was not froozen when i the the game . u re the biggest bull sitter on the server act liker u did nothing wrong and lie your fuckin ass off after the fact . i have had many other players saying that u have done thew same thing and play dumb after doing it . your act is getting realy old mac11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
StanG Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 824 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 317 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 168 Achievement Points: 2144 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2023 Birthday: 03/08/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted October 10, 2012 Also love tha care package perk sammy , lets not take it away because we have somew aholes who do not want to follow the rules thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 03:05 PM Device: Windows Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) See, people even want to fight about it in this post Edited October 10, 2012 by Sonovabich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unarmed Posted October 10, 2012 Member ID: 43 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 9 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 200 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 94 Achievement Points: 1347 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 07/13/1971 Device: iPhone Share Posted October 10, 2012 I just switched my kill streak perk from the rc to the care package because the car always gets jammed before you can defrost or kill anyone. Kinda defeats the purpose of having the car. I dont mind if a teammate gets my package if im frozen before I can get to it. I tried to give one away to Yellow the other night after I died. I would want a teammate to get it before the enemy can get to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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