Did you like the addition of Obliteration?

[OddJob001]

Yesterday we added some Obliteration maps.  Did you like them or not?

 

 

Edited January 8, 2014 by OddJob001

[Devildog4355]

Changing things up every once in awhile I believe is a good thing

[DuckyofDeath123]

All maps and all modes but SQDM and TDM is what I like best.. so yeah, I had fun obliterating things Hoping to see Rush as well.

[Sonovabich]

Depends what map it is on, Locker yes other maps no, i don't think it works with vehicles and aircraft, i like it much better when it is only infantry and i think the Locker map is perfect for it.

[OddJob001]

All maps and all modes but SQDM and TDM is what I like best.. so yeah, I had fun obliterating things Hoping to see Rush as well.

 

 

Does Rush allow 64man?

[DorkNRok]

Last time Caliber tried that, the server emptied out,  ended up with less than 10 ppl within 30 minutes and we weren't able to recover the rest of the night. Just some tribal history on the subject of adding additional game modes in.  

 

Edit:  Only voted "no" because of the server population drops/server rank drops i've witnessed when we integrated different game modes previously....not that I, personally dont like different game modes.  

Edited January 8, 2014 by DorkNRok

[ozziesdark]

I like a change of pace the regulars always come back.

[DEEJAYKEG]

I have no idea what the new game mode involves.

 

I saw you attempting a straw poll during a quiet period on the CQ64 server - I don't believe you will obtain

representative results from this.

 

Some of us have not yet seen all the maps even in Conquest mode.

 

I don't like Operation Locker - the map exacerbates the ping differences between US and Euro players.

 

I don't care for Rush mode much.  (Have you noticed I might like maps with choppers and tanks? )

 

I agree with the wisdom expressed above - if you tit about with this server too much, the end result is you will

bleed players.  From the perspective of someone who often has to queue to get onto it, I see no reason to

mess with a popular server.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[BustyMcJenkins]

Was rather refreshing logging in and seeing an OB match instead of the same ol' CQ.  Agree with Devil that changing it up every so often is a good thing. 

[OddJob001]

So.  I think we can call it official for now, and leave the OB maps in there.  Looking at the chat logs over the last 24 hours, players are really liking the new game modes, and we have had some of the highest queues of people waiting, ever.   When OL OB was runing we h ad 11 people in queue.  This brought in some new players.  

Of course there are a few people that didnt like it. However, once they found out that its all based on voting of the masses, they were ok with it.  For the most part though I saw nearly everyone excited about it.  

 

Especially you Busty  His quote was "we get a new map mode, and brand new hardware!? Its like Christmas all over again!"

 

Here is how it will work:

There are two map listings.

 

Map List 1 - When the server is at 48 people or less, it will run Map List 1, which consists of only CQ maps.

When more than 48 people come in, it will change to Map List 2.

Map List 2 consists of all CQ maps, with 4 OB maps mixed in every 3-4 CQ map.  I will watch our server traffic during these OB maps, to see what maps people favor. We can then switch out the 4 OB maps, in and out, with different ones, from time to time.

 

In regards to the other concern:

 

Last time Caliber tried that, the server emptied out,  ended up with less than 10 ppl within 30 minutes and we weren't able to recover the rest of the night. Just some tribal history on the subject of adding additional game modes in. 

 

I definitely am aware of the pains involved in switch maps and modes while trying to fill a server, back in the BF3 days. I experienced it all first had with Cal.  During this time, Caliber and I spent hours, days, weeks (3 weeks to be exact) getting the server back and going again.  Doing nothing but changing maps and modes and playing against each other only, waiting for the server to fill.  It was saddening.  But I do see 2 differences here;

1. The game is new enough that people are still trying out new modes and finding new servers.  The issue of changing modes and losing people (during BF3) was nearly 2 years after the games release.  So to say, people were happy with no change.

2. Obliteration is different than the other games BF3 offered, and is much closer to the likes of CQ, except its more like the flag is ever moving.

 

 

Lets see how this goes.  I personally am looking forward to trying the maps on OB mode.  I have only played 3-4 rounds of OB.  The other night, it was interesting to watch people who always play CQ, get into OB.  Like me, I had no idea how to approach different situations.  It wasn't the typical, run to the flag, clear it out, cap it and move on.  

 

I will continue to review the server traffic, over the next few weeks, during the maps and modes, to see how we fair.

 

Any other ideas are always open and welcomed.

Edited January 9, 2014 by OddJob001

[DuckyofDeath123]

One issue you do face is that most of your regulars are people who already like CQL all night. If you're going to mix in other modes you will need to attract some new people who like multiple modes to replace the few who don't like other modes than CQL.

The EU server runs all modes (except air sup) on all maps (sort of) and it's perfectly capable of filling up every day - because the people who play there enjoy the mixed modes. On that, switching to CQ only would need finding new players who enjoy CQ only to replace the mixed players that leave.

If you worry about the popularity of the CQ server you might consider adding another server for the mixed modes.

 

Be wary that Rush and Obliteration work best with teams between 24 to 48 players. Most maps become an utterly senseless Metro clone on those modes with 64 players. I think you may have a challenge keeping the server full with the utter chaos that was OBL on Locker. That sort of senseless chaos doesn't appeal to everyone.

[OddJob001]

One issue you do face is that most of your regulars are people who already like CQL all night. If you're going to mix in other modes you will need to attract some new people who like multiple modes to replace the few who don't like other modes than CQL.

The EU server runs all modes (except air sup) on all maps (sort of) and it's perfectly capable of filling up every day - because the people who play there enjoy the mixed modes. On that, switching to CQ only would need finding new players who enjoy CQ only to replace the mixed players that leave.

If you worry about the popularity of the CQ server you might consider adding another server for the mixed modes.

 

Be wary that Rush and Obliteration work best with teams between 24 to 48 players. Most maps become an utterly senseless Metro clone on those modes with 64 players. I think you may have a challenge keeping the server full with the utter chaos that was OBL on Locker. That sort of senseless chaos doesn't appeal to everyone.

 

Thanks.  I am sure we will have some questions for the EU guys on game modes, if we keep adding them.

On that, it looks like people are liking the new game mode mixture (14 CQ maps and 4 OB maps in rotation, when above 32 players.)  We got some new people coming to the server, so thats good.

Thanks!

[Fir3Marshal]

I like how we implemented the changes, it still goes through the vote process. I also agree that with some maps it seems like the perfect mode of play. I only had a chance to play rush once, and that ended up being a 64 play round, that was insane!

[Evil-Monkey]

So we are not running Conquest all the time? I might get back in play if that's the case.

[Devildog4355]

So we are not running Conquest all the time? I might get back in play if that's the case.

 

Yes but only as a vote, if no one votes for it and they vote for a CQ, OB wont get played, but i'd say it gets played ~3 times a day maybe more! i love a change in pace and its good for the server so it's not the same they 24/7

[DuckyofDeath123]

I only had a chance to play rush once, and that ended up being a 64 play round, that was insane!

rush doesnt suit 64p servers unfortunately. It gets too hard to punch through and plant and hold the bombspot. It can be very good hectic play with 30 to 40 players, come try a few rounds on the EU box some time if you like it :-)

[Fir3Marshal]

rush doesnt suit 64p servers unfortunately. It gets too hard to punch through and plant and hold the bombspot. It can be very good hectic play with 30 to 40 players, come try a few rounds on the EU box some time if you like it :-)

 

I might have to come check that out!

 

I have also heard I should get on the US Hardcore server, that there are several changes to the rules that make the game better or maybe more realistic.... I still really like CQ Large but at least everyone can vote on what they want to play. 

[Default_UID]

At first I was not keen on it. That was due to inexperience though. Once I grasped what we were doing and where we were going, I really digged on it. A rush mode slipped in this Saturday as well and that was also really fun. In short BF4 is fun. 

 

Cheers

[Evil-Monkey]

@ Devildog I would play more BF4 if it wasn't always conquest sometimes I just don't have time for a 45min game.....I like change of pace myself