JohnnyDos Posted May 15, 2014 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Posted May 15, 2014 Saw this link in our local news paper.Amazing just look:http://www.vincelewis.net/unsoldcars.html Damage_inc-, KingStinger! and Mule 3
TBB Posted May 15, 2014 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 290 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 20363 Content Per Day: 3.64 Reputation: 22438 Achievement Points: 147227 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 387 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Posted May 15, 2014 The real reason for this is obvious. I looked carefully at all the pictures and did not see a single car in the color I want with the options I want. If the manufacturers would be more flexible the cars would sell! eidolonFIRE, JohnnyDos and Damage_inc- 3 Awards
little_old_man Posted May 15, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted May 15, 2014 It is amazing Johnny. I think the age of the new car is slowly coming to an end. A new car is about the only large investment a person can make that quickly loses value and is practicaly worthless after a few years. When I was a kid growing up in the 60's a middle class home in the US could easily be bought for under $20,000, and it greatly increased in value. Now a decent car or pick-up truck costs around $50,000 and in 10 years it will be worth about %20 of what you originally paid for it. Until about 2005 I bought a brand new truck or car every 3 years. My last new truck (2005 Ford Expedition) is still in my driveway and I've hated it practically since the day I bought it for almost $60,000. The quality of the materials is so poor and the cost of maintenance so high, I simply refuse to pay it any longer. As soon as I can afford it I'm going to buy a completely rebuilt Chevy K5 blazer from between 1970 and 1975. I love the style, i can buy one totally refurbished for under $20,000, and I can do all of the maintenance myself. There are no computers on it to go bad and they run forever. baldie, Mule and JohnnyDos 3 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted May 15, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Posted May 15, 2014 Nobody wants to buy NEW cars because dealerships rip you off in maintenance. They intentionally design the cars these days so that only they can work on it. You have to go to them with wads of money to get it fixed. You buy a 2012 model or newer and you will be hard pressed to do anything past brake pads and oil change on your own. Old cars are cheap and are DESIGNED TO BE WORKED ON!!! The old design mentality was "built to last". But, these days the market is so saturated with products they can't design stuff to last forever because they wouldn't be able to keep selling new models. New cars are designed to have a predictable life span that they can then follow up with the next model. This mentality is actually mostly prevalent in the cell phone industry. baldie 1
little_old_man Posted May 15, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted May 15, 2014 Nobody wants to buy NEW cars because dealerships rip you off in maintenance. They intentionally design the cars these days so that only they can work on it. You have to go to them with wads of money to get it fixed. You buy a 2012 model or newer and you will be hard pressed to do anything past brake pads and oil change on your own. Old cars are cheap and are DESIGNED TO BE WORKED ON!!! The old design mentality was "built to last". But, these days the market is so saturated with products they can't design stuff to last forever because they wouldn't be able to keep selling new models. New cars are designed to have a predictable life span that they can then follow up with the next model. This mentality is actually mostly prevalent in the cell phone industry. So right you are. It's called Planned Obsolescence, it's the norm in our world today. Some examples are: Printer Ink cartridges Video Games (Call of Duty 1-2-3-4-5) Text Books Clothing Software (MS and Apple Operating Systems are great examples) Cars Every cell phone on the market today Even light bulbs. The old light bulbs were cheap, but they could have been made to run forever. But where's the money in that? There is a fire station in San Francisco with a single light bulb that has been turned on for over 100 years. Henry Ford had the right idea with his first cars. They quite literally ran forever and there are still thousands of them running today with the original engines nearly 100 years after they were made. Of course if all cars were like that nobody would buy new ones, which is why we have Planned Obsolescence in the first place. JohnnyDos, baldie and eidolonFIRE 3 Awards
baldie Posted May 15, 2014 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 01:24 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Posted May 15, 2014 WOW I am surprised that some of these cars have not been stolen and resold. It must cost them a fortune just to provide security for these vehicles, just another example of the world gone mad.. little_old_man 1 Awards
JohnnyDos Posted May 15, 2014 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Author Posted May 15, 2014 They would sell if they made them more affordable for the average person,and then there's the auto dealers and their repair fees and do you trust them when they tell you that you have more problems than just the one you brought it in for.hmmmm..........
little_old_man Posted May 15, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted May 15, 2014 No they can't really charge any less for them. They have to pay the salaries of all of those union people with no more than a high school education a couple hundred thousand a year, then pay them 100% of their salary for the rest of their life when they retire at age 55. If we could get all of those Chinese women and kids that make clothing for Target and Walmart to make our cars and sell them over the internet, a brand new SUV would cost like $5,000. baldie and eidolonFIRE 2 Awards
deerejon Posted May 15, 2014 Member ID: 842 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 62 Topic Count: 278 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3714 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3153 Achievement Points: 28467 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Tuesday at 05:18 PM Birthday: 05/04/1965 Device: Windows Posted May 15, 2014 I have never, in my entire life, owned a brand new car....my wife is driving a 2002 Tahoe and I drive a 2004 Excursion... I take care of them and they run and look just fine...I have no car payments and my insurance is cheap....a new car is probably the worst investment one can make these days...but they do it anyway cause it's stylin'... The best deal I ever got on a car was when I was just living with my wife and she needed a car...I found a Plymouth for $50.00...ran great just had no parking gear or emergency brake so when she parked it she put a brick behind the wheel. (the brick came with the car no extra charge) She drove it for a year and then she got something else....a friend of mine needed a car and I told him I would sell him the Plymouth for $75.00....he looked at me for a second and said "I was with you when you got it for 50" So I sold it to him for 50. that was the best car ever..... eidolonFIRE and KingStinger! 2 Awards
KingStinger! Posted May 16, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted May 16, 2014 I have never, in my entire life, owned a brand new car....my wife is driving a 2002 Tahoe and I drive a 2004 Excursion... I take care of them and they run and look just fine...I have no car payments and my insurance is cheap....a new car is probably the worst investment one can make these days...but they do it anyway cause it's stylin'... Very true. Never owned new myself. Just sold my 97 f150 for $3000 and paid $3000 4 years earlier. Was still in mint shape cause i care for my vehicles. Turned around and bought a 2002 Dodge truck. Slowly upgrading is better than buying new. New cars are the worst investment possible, but people still buy new with what has a lot to do with ego/pride, to keep up with the jones so to speak. Need to look good but i myself could care less. As you said, NO payment, Low insurance and can still work on the older ones somewhat.. deerejon 1 Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted May 16, 2014 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Posted May 16, 2014 i will say this i know the baltimore port is moving massive quanities of vehicles FROM their port I get at least 2 calls a day from my broker begging me to run MD they have hundreds of full size car haulers going in and out and still dont have enough carriers to move what they are needing moved. marysville oh and greensburg IN are 2 areas they cant get enough carriers for Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted May 16, 2014 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Posted May 16, 2014 Very true. Never owned new myself. Just sold my 97 f150 for $3000 and paid $3000 4 years earlier. Was still in mint shape cause i care for my vehicles. Turned around and bought a 2002 Dodge truck. Slowly upgrading is better than buying new. New cars are the worst investment possible, but people still buy new with what has a lot to do with ego/pride, to keep up with the jones so to speak. Need to look good but i myself could care less. As you said, NO payment, Low insurance and can still work on the older ones somewhat.. i LOVE the people who lease a f350 dually keep it 2 yrs and and turn it in then i get to buy it at 50% the original cost KingStinger! 1 Awards
KingStinger! Posted May 16, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted May 16, 2014 i LOVE the people who lease a f350 dually keep it 2 yrs and and turn it in then i get to buy it at 50% the original cost Lease has got to be the biggest scam going lol. Well in the auto industry anyways.. Dark Asylumn 1 Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted May 16, 2014 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Posted May 16, 2014 yes it is,,, but its great for the ones who dont buy new KingStinger! 1 Awards
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