eidolonFIRE Posted September 30, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Was able to capture the BSOD. How old is your hdd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benrith Posted September 30, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 pretty old to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted September 30, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted September 30, 2014 pretty old to say the least It could be any number of things, but hdd could definitely be one of them. Try running defraggler. https://www.piriform.com/DEFRAGGLER You will find out if there is something seriously wrong with your OS as it shuffles everything around on your HD. If your OS has been installed more than 2yrs it's a great maintenance tool anyway. However, considering that you say it crashes the most during a heavy load, @@iboomboom was right, it is prolly your PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benrith Posted September 30, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 i've done a complete format and install today. just updating everything and will see if it still crashes. just trying to rule as much as i can out before start spending. but to be honest i need to update any way. might just buy a new PSU, GPU and HDD eidolonFIRE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Benrith Posted September 30, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 now that i've done a fresh install of everything I'm getting random things happening like chrome says either i've timed out or ran out of memory... Just now I got a BSOD when I pressed ctrl+C. Very strange... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
mouselad Posted September 30, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted September 30, 2014 now that i've done a fresh install of everything I'm getting random things happening like chrome says either i've timed out or ran out of memory... Just now I got a BSOD when I pressed ctrl+C. Very strange... The file indicated in the blue screen is a direct x file. OddJob001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iboomboom Posted September 30, 2014 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted September 30, 2014 well... you said that for me but it ended up being the mobo. I don't trust you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted September 30, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I don't trust you. You mean you don't believe me? Or you really don't trust me? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iboomboom Posted September 30, 2014 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted September 30, 2014 You mean you don't believe me? Or you really don't trust me? lol You're shady man, very shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
J3st3r Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 2162 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 153 Topic Count: 152 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5089 Content Per Day: 1.05 Reputation: 5010 Achievement Points: 44668 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 01/25/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 02/26/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted October 1, 2014 now that i've done a fresh install of everything I'm getting random things happening like chrome says either i've timed out or ran out of memory... Just now I got a BSOD when I pressed ctrl+C. Very strange... I would try to Re-seat the CPU and apply new thermal compound 1st and see if it helps.If it doesn't Pop 1 of your memory Modules out and try it.Then take both out and try the other one.If your still getting the same errors Unhook the DVD drive and pull out everything but the memory,GPU,CPU and the hard drive. I've had several PCs with Out Of Memory issues and most of the time it is either the CPU or memory needed reseated or 1 of the add in cards (mostly Modems or LAN cards) went bad or bad CD/DVD actually was shorting out internally.Had a few that ended up being just a Loose power connector on the hard drive.Others that the HDD would randomly shut down because of the Power Supply.Bad,Bulging or Leaking Capacitors on the Motherboard and inside the Power Supply will also cause the same problem. Benrith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Benrith Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Death: I'll try that tonoght. I've removed and reseated the mem already but it I'll try everything else. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted October 1, 2014 When I had similar issues with my PC, there were 2 things causing this. #1. My memory timings in the BIOS and the voltage to the memory. I was getting all kinds of BSODs, everytime a differente hardware driver file. I suspected my GPU so I tried a couple different GPUs problem didn't go away. Ultimately I ran memtest+ test number 5. Found the artifacts and then found the proper timing voltage relationship with trial and error. #2. My PSU was not of superior quality and had high varying voltage on the +12V rail (e.g. 12.5 12.7 11.99). The current amperage rating was at 35A and if I would overclock there were stability issues. It would crashes whenever I would run heavy tasks but they were random so there wasn't a pattern I could relate to it. Ultimately the PSU died, I bought a nice $90+ PSU (62A, 12.5V solid) and I can overclock my system to 4.0GHz no issues. It stays stable doesn't give any more random BSODs. When a system gets old, the first thing in it to die of old age is the PSU. Followed by spinning HDDs, followed by anybody's guess but likely audio or video card. The motherboard PCB is sensitive to flexing. If you move your motherboard and at any point it bent even the slightest that will most certainly compromise the internal circuitry of the PCB layer. Your CPU going off like that is a 1 in 100 million shot. The manufacturing process for CPUs makes it very hard to build CPUs that would just die that unless of course abused. Go in the BIOS and watch voltage on the +12V rail see if it fluctuates. By the way my PSU that died was 3.5-4 years old. Benrith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted October 1, 2014 well... you said that for me but it ended up being the mobo. I just remember your mobo died cause you shipped your fully assembled system across the country through regular shipping. You do know the conveyor belt used by the shipping companies movies at 40mph and they don't slow it down on the corners. The boxes hit, and bump in to each other. Also, I don't recall if you ever tried a different PSU to verify if it was just the mobo. Your case is way different than his. I just remembered this as I was going back on this thread to see if I missed any detail. @@eidolonFIRE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Benrith Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Ok, not sure which PSU to buy. Looking at many articles on my issue a lot of people are indicating that it is my PSU that is at fault, followed by my HD then GFX. As i've been given permission to buy a new GFX then I I'm gonna buy one any way.Currently looking at this, I know it seems a little cheap and not what i expected.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silent-750W-ATX-PC-Power-Supply-Unit-With-120-mm-Blue-Cooling-Fan-750-Watt-PSU-/281274106148?pt=UK_Computing_PowerSupplies_EH&hash=item417d3e4124 Some good reviews i've read so far but what are your thoughts. Edited October 1, 2014 by Benrith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted October 1, 2014 Take a look at the choices here, do not cheap out on PSUs. I know UK is expensive because of all the taxes but if you've to pick, go for 80 PLUS certified. http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_11?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=corsair%20psu&sprefix=corsair+psu%2Caps%2C486 Although I recommend the 750W this 600W may also be good enough for you. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CX750-Builder-Series-Bronze/dp/B008RJZR40/ref=sr_1_9?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1412149089&sr=1-9&keywords=corsair+psu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Benrith Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Well that's been bought now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Benrith Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 60gig SSD large enough for windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted October 1, 2014 Well that's been bought now. If you still have a choice to cancel the order I highly recommend you get the CORSAIR. It's a trust worthy brand, cheap PSUs come at a price and lose efficiency much faster than quality PSUs. 60G is plenty but you may run out sooner than say 100GB. I have a 120GB SSD that I use as my boot OS for Windows 8.1. I have 65.6 GB free after 1 month of installations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted October 1, 2014 Well that's been bought now. The ARTIC had quad rails, a single rail is much better for load distribution than a multi rail. A high performance single rail has more stability than a multi rail. MrBubbles and OddJob001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
TheHammer Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 4101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 22 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1124 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 792 Achievement Points: 8736 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 09:13 AM Birthday: 07/08/1962 Device: Windows Share Posted October 1, 2014 I WOULD ALSO GUESS POWER SUPPLY I USED TO DO TECH SUPPORT FOR 3 YEARS WITH ASUS Benrith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Benrith Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 If you still have a choice to cancel the order I highly recommend you get the CORSAIR. It's a trust worthy brand, cheap PSUs come at a price and lose efficiency much faster than quality PSUs. 60G is plenty but you may run out sooner than say 100GB. I have a 120GB SSD that I use as my boot OS for Windows 8.1. I have 65.6 GB free after 1 month of installations. I bought the CORSAIR, not the artic. iboomboom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Benrith Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) 60G is plenty but you may run out sooner than say 100GB. I have a 120GB SSD that I use as my boot OS for Windows 8.1. I have 65.6 GB free after 1 month of installations. Hmm ok. I was just going to have just windows on a 60gb and then buy a 240+ for everything else. I only use the computer for gaming to be honest and then a new 1TB 'normal' hard drive or all the other stuff which I don't need quick load times. Edited October 1, 2014 by Benrith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 06:56 PM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted October 1, 2014 I bought the CORSAIR, not the artic. Oh I misunderstood. Good, let me know how this turns out. I have the same one 750W CX 80 PLUS. Benrith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
OddJob001 Posted October 1, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) This isnt a hardware BSOD. I take that back. It could still be memory related due to DX loading to memory during gaming. Most likely not CPU or GPU related though. Were you able to run that memtest for a good 12 hours? Just set it to run overnight and see what you get. This is a bad DirectX driver issue. When is the last time you've reformatted and installed Windows? If you know how to zip and upload the minidump we could probably figure out exactly what it is. Edited October 1, 2014 by OddJob001 Fir3Marshal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benrith Posted October 2, 2014 Member ID: 21070 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 131 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 47 Achievement Points: 918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/01/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) I formatted and reinstalled on Tuesday and was still getting random errors. I've had a few different ones since that last screen shot.I'll look up how to create a dump file etc. Edited October 2, 2014 by Benrith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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