LadyIngvild Posted November 17, 2016 Member ID: 24117 Group: ++ Minecraft Admin Followers: 25 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 362 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 599 Achievement Points: 3402 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/19/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 23, 2024 Birthday: 07/14/1994 Device: Android Posted November 17, 2016 Predat0r, iboomboom, Belted and 3 others 6 Awards
TBB Posted November 18, 2016 Member ID: 989 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 290 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 20309 Content Per Day: 3.63 Reputation: 22423 Achievement Points: 146929 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 387 Joined: 01/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 01/27/1946 Device: Windows Posted November 18, 2016 If those women are the prisoners - lock me up!!! AyaqGuyaq, hxtr and Joe Canadian 3 Awards
dudebroman Posted November 18, 2016 Member ID: 23961 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 484 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 334 Achievement Points: 3415 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/15/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2024 Birthday: 02/21/1986 Device: Windows Posted November 18, 2016 What people don't realise, norway have some of the lowest reoffending rates in the world, so they're doing something right. Awards
LadyIngvild Posted November 19, 2016 Member ID: 24117 Group: ++ Minecraft Admin Followers: 25 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 362 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 599 Achievement Points: 3402 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/19/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 23, 2024 Birthday: 07/14/1994 Device: Android Author Posted November 19, 2016 @@TBB lmfao well im not 100% sure but i think its a prison for both men and women. @@dudebroman they actually mention that in the video. kind of odd when you look at the living conditions they have there huh lol. not even $500+ apartments look that fancy. TBB 1 Awards
Joe Canadian Posted November 19, 2016 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) If those women are the prisoners - lock me up!!! Please don't Edited November 19, 2016 by Joe Canadian Awards
Joe Canadian Posted November 19, 2016 Member ID: 822 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 87 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5477 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5025 Achievement Points: 42632 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 20 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 25, 2023 Birthday: 03/01/1967 Posted November 19, 2016 Nothing wrong with Norway or Norwegians, you are really cool. The problem here is @@TBB Awards
Leadfinger Posted November 19, 2016 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Posted November 19, 2016 It can't be as simple as "Hmmm maybe if we lock them up in a nice prison they will turn good" That just doesn't seem right. Sending someone to prison for committing a crime is punishment and a prison that nice doesn't fit that category . . . . .I'm not saying that the methods used here in America are the right way and could be considered by some to be cruel. If you want to see an example of a cruel prison I'm sure somewhere in south America you can find an example of that. Thank you @@LadyIngvild for posting this and giving us a something to think about hxtr 1 Awards
hxtr Posted November 19, 2016 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted November 19, 2016 Damn.. look out Norway.. watch out!!!!! hxtr wants to get locked up in your country. Leadfinger and TBB 2
dudebroman Posted November 19, 2016 Member ID: 23961 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 484 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 334 Achievement Points: 3415 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/15/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2024 Birthday: 02/21/1986 Device: Windows Posted November 19, 2016 It can't be as simple as "Hmmm maybe if we lock them up in a nice prison they will turn good" That just doesn't seem right. Sending someone to prison for committing a crime is punishment and a prison that nice doesn't fit that category . . . . .I'm not saying that the methods used here in America are the right way and could be considered by some to be cruel. If you want to see an example of a cruel prison I'm sure somewhere in south America you can find an example of that. Thank you @@LadyIngvild for posting this and giving us a something to think about The reason for the low reoffending rates are because they have universal access to education. Education has been proven to help people who are incarcerated and they can turn their life around with it. The American system for prisons aren't bad, but they're not good. They've slashed the prison education budget so much that there are something like 15 or so courses available and each one was a waiting list larger than most prison populations. Reoffending happens when a con can't get a job, because they've no chance to better themselves. If they can better themselves on the inside, they are much more likely get a job on the outside and stay in the straight and narrow. Leadfinger and TBB 2 Awards
LadyIngvild Posted November 19, 2016 Member ID: 24117 Group: ++ Minecraft Admin Followers: 25 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 362 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 599 Achievement Points: 3402 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/19/16 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 23, 2024 Birthday: 07/14/1994 Device: Android Author Posted November 19, 2016 The reason for the low reoffending rates are because they have universal access to education. Education has been proven to help people who are incarcerated and they can turn their life around with it. The American system for prisons aren't bad, but they're not good. They've slashed the prison education budget so much that there are something like 15 or so courses available and each one was a waiting list larger than most prison populations. Reoffending happens when a con can't get a job, because they've no chance to better themselves. If they can better themselves on the inside, they are much more likely get a job on the outside and stay in the straight and narrow. You're right about that. Its less about punishing and more about rehabilitation. But an important note is that Norway has a generally low crime rate, and most crimes happening are like robberies and other small crimes. Since WW2 we've only had one single mass attack on Norway, where one lone wolf bombed our government quarter in Oslo and then traveled to an island and proceeded to shoot a bunch of youths having a political camp-weekend. He killed a total of 77 people. This lone wolf is now getting the same treatment as the other prisoners, but the exception is that he's in isolation. He's not hanging around with other prisoners and he doesnt have permission to read his "fan-mails". Norway is just a small and peaceful country who believes prisoners can be rehabilitated, and then be sent back to the society to start their own life. And the education they get while in prison really helps, like @@dudebroman said. dudebroman 1 Awards
PainKiller Posted November 20, 2016 Member ID: 20107 Group: ++ COD2 Admin Followers: 19 Topic Count: 122 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2021 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 2495 Achievement Points: 16746 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 09/21/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 13 Birthday: 08/01/1994 Device: Windows Posted November 20, 2016 You're right about that. Its less about punishing and more about rehabilitation. But an important note is that Norway has a generally low crime rate, and most crimes happening are like robberies and other small crimes. Since WW2 we've only had one single mass attack on Norway, where one lone wolf bombed our government quarter in Oslo and then traveled to an island and proceeded to shoot a bunch of youths having a political camp-weekend. He killed a total of 77 people. This lone wolf is now getting the same treatment as the other prisoners, but the exception is that he's in isolation. He's not hanging around with other prisoners and he doesnt have permission to read his "fan-mails". Norway is just a small and peaceful country who believes prisoners can be rehabilitated, and then be sent back to the society to start their own life. And the education they get while in prison really helps, like @@dudebroman said. The prison system over here in England and in other parts of the world are so different! It's weird how even though we're all on the same planet, the crime and punishment systems are completely different. As with our cultures, education and a load of other stuff. Never really thought about prisons in other countries before, it's interesting to see how things are done in other countries, that's for sure! People probably re-offend here because in prisons they have 3 meals a day, fitness, healthcare and all that and meanwhile, there are people in the country living in poverty and barely getting past. Then there are people who just deserve to be put away. There are some scary people out there. Awards
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