PrimalFear Posted November 11, 2011 Member ID: 159 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 855 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 93 Achievement Points: 5145 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 9, 2012 Birthday: 09/21/1971 Posted November 11, 2011 I'm going to ask the question first and then explain, how do I turn off anisotropic filtering completely with this card in BF3? I posted this here because my issue is with how the card effects BF3 specifically. I just got my brand new MSI Twin Frozer II 560ti 2GB OC'd video card yesterday and installed it and went into the game and I was very disappointed. I checked the settings and they were set to "auto" and all settings were maxed out- Ultra everything x16 x4 etc at 1080p and the game looked like crap. WTF? Is it a driver? nope got the new one, what's the problem? My old 8800gts looks way better. So I start going through all the settings and messing around with different combinations and set everything to the lowest settings that the card would allow, WAY BETTER visual detail with sharp crisp edges were back but still not quite as good as my 8800gts and then I noticed that when I turn all settings to low it still requires me to run anisotropic filtering at x1 instead of off. So I turn all settings back to max (yep total crap again) then I drop aniso filtering to x1 and BAMM way better but still not as good as off. Now since the game has come out I have been playing on low/off on everything and I see EVERYTHING with stunning detail and the game is perfect but I have an obvious FPS loss with my ancient 8800gts, what I see is that the difference between Ultra and Low is that Ultra has these nice smooth edges, texture meshing and looks like an oil painting, but with everything set to low/off it looks more like a photograph with nice crisp edges and no meshing, everything actually looks "real", I can see every leaf on every tree every shadow and the slightest movement from across the map, a far superior gaming experience. Before I return this card I'm willing to give it a chance to fix this issue if anyone has any video tweak recommendations that will actually work in BF3 I would welcome them. What I would really like is a way to shut down anisotropic completely to get the same superior visual quality I have with my 8800gts with the 560ti FPS boost. I'll leave my encyclopedia message there before I write a bigger book, right now I'm just really frustrated with this card and the first time I have had a game where better is worse. CoD4 actually gets better when you turn the settings up, why would this one get worse?
Merlin007 Posted November 11, 2011 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 1138 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 8604 Content Per Day: 1.62 Reputation: 7574 Achievement Points: 76816 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 67 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 11:17 AM Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Windows Posted November 11, 2011 Go into the nVidia control panel and under '3D Settings', goto 'Manage 3D settings'. The right side panel will list the feature settings to which you can change the global and/or game settings. Hope this helps and good luck. ?? Awards
PrimalFear Posted November 11, 2011 Member ID: 159 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 855 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 93 Achievement Points: 5145 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 9, 2012 Birthday: 09/21/1971 Author Posted November 11, 2011 I tried that but it doesn't work, still x1 aniso minimum in the game with this card and I can still turn it up to x16 even with it off in control panel, I was hoping there might be a game command or another tweak I could use to get rid of it.
Merlin007 Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 1138 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 8604 Content Per Day: 1.62 Reputation: 7574 Achievement Points: 76816 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 67 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 11:17 AM Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Windows Posted November 12, 2011 Sorry, can't help you with the game side. Don't have BF3. Figured by turning off the hardware side in the control panel, that would take care of it. Spec wise, you would expect more from the 560ti. Hope you fix your issue. Awards
BeerGoat Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 2923 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1251 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 295 Achievement Points: 8401 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 04:26 PM Birthday: 03/20/1976 Device: Windows Posted November 12, 2011 I just upgraded to a 560 for BF3. I expected a big performance upgrade from my 8600. But I have to play it on medium settings just to keep it from crashing. Don't get me wrong it looks great and is better. but I figured I would be able to really see it all not be restricted. I would like any ideas that anyone else would have as well. It is a zatoc geforce 560 I am not sure if it is over clocked though. Thanks Jonas (the Goat) Awards
BigPapaDean Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1217 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 6581 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 4445 Achievement Points: 63856 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 04:49 AM Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Posted November 12, 2011 your prob is your "the Goat" and you are butting everything you see so its slows you down! LOL! Good luck with this and I am watching for the answer cuz am thinking about that card! Awards
BeerGoat Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 2923 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1251 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 295 Achievement Points: 8401 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 04:26 PM Birthday: 03/20/1976 Device: Windows Posted November 12, 2011 LOL. its true. Its got to be a driver issue. Right? Awards
PrimalFear Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 159 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 855 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 93 Achievement Points: 5145 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 9, 2012 Birthday: 09/21/1971 Author Posted November 12, 2011 well my k/d with this card is now down to below .5/1 from a consistant 1/1 since the game came out, all it is doing is ruining my stats, I'm gonna try a few more things and if they don't work I'm putting my 8800gts back in my machine so far this card sucks
BeerGoat Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 2923 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1251 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 295 Achievement Points: 8401 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 04:26 PM Birthday: 03/20/1976 Device: Windows Posted November 12, 2011 Awesome Thanks in advance. Awards
PrimalFear Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 159 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 855 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 93 Achievement Points: 5145 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 9, 2012 Birthday: 09/21/1971 Author Posted November 12, 2011 I solved my problem it was a balance issue between AA/AF and I had it backwards, AF is for depth and clarity and AA is for smoothing/softening (that cartoon look) the default low/med/high/ultra settings are not properly set up for a balance between them and that was alot of the problem. So I went to control panel and set it to a proper balance and that was messed up too and still that does not work, So I went to custom and set AF to x16 and turned off both AA settings and the last setting occlusion, I think it is, to highest and there it was, I can see forever again and the shadows are back. Played the round got 10/6 killing people I never could have seen without this adjustment. What a nightmare, I have never had to do this with any video card since I bought my first 3dFX Voodoo2 2000 pci patch card back in the 90's. Even if the default setting for it WAS all screwed up, it was just a setting and not the card itself. Thanx for the suggestion Merlin it got me in a mindset to consider other options and led me to the solution, and I appreciate it. BTW Goat many might disagree with me on this but this has been my experience with this game and this card, I think that the quality settings of this game are more of a preference than quality. I can run ultra everything but it's not the best setting for me, some of my settings are ultra some are medium some off and some maxed and getting it all right with this card was seriously BS but I did get it. I don't think your missing much if that gives you any peace of mind.
BeerGoat Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 2923 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1251 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 295 Achievement Points: 8401 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 04:26 PM Birthday: 03/20/1976 Device: Windows Posted November 12, 2011 Ill get on it and see what I can figure out. awesome work. Awards
CplMOFO Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 1924 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1012 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 5864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 05/30/1973 Device: Windows Posted November 12, 2011 PrimalFear well my k/d with this card is now down to below .5/1 from a consistant 1/1 since the game came out, all it is doing is ruining my stats, I'm gonna try a few more things and if they don't work I'm putting my 8800gts back in my machine so far this card sucksYou don't need to run the game at ULTRA....all on HIGH, maybe textures at ULTRA...2 or 4X AA and 8X AF... Look and see for yourself, how faster and better a 560Ti is compared to a 8800GTS (G92) 512mb http://www.hwcompare.com/8975/geforce-8800-gts-g92-vs-geforce-gtx-560-ti/ Awards
Mad Cow Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 1073 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 10 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 280 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 10 Achievement Points: 1611 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/31/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 2, 2019 Birthday: 09/28/1975 Posted November 12, 2011 Nvidia released a Beta driver to fix alot of issues related to BF3 this past Thursday. Give it a shot, it fixed the majority of my issues with my 9800GT! Includes several bug fixes and performance improvements for Battlefield 3. Fixes cases of irregular performance (stuttering) primarily seen on DirectX 10 GPUs. The fix improves the performance of both DX10 and DX11 GPUs. Fixes shadow map corruption seen with DirectX 10 GPUs. Fixes cases of black corruption lines/triangles with DirectX 10 GPUs.
X-RayXI Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 133 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 77 Topic Count: 602 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 6896 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 1376 Achievement Points: 44161 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 11 Birthday: 12/12/1971 Device: Windows Posted November 12, 2011 Give the game some time Reason is that the patches needs to be made and have to go through E.A. to get approval. Meanwhile the graphic cards companies do their best to tweak arround too. For sure crashing is frustrating though, but we have seen worse as in new games. COD5 took, I believe, 3 months or more to fix it up. Awards
xCaliber Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 142 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 30 Topic Count: 277 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1986 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 13866 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 25, 2014 Birthday: 05/01/1985 Posted November 12, 2011 Mad Cow Nvidia released a Beta driver to fix alot of issues related to BF3 this past Thursday. Give it a shot, it fixed the majority of my issues with my 9800GT! Includes several bug fixes and performance improvements for Battlefield 3. Fixes cases of irregular performance (stuttering) primarily seen on DirectX 10 GPUs. The fix improves the performance of both DX10 and DX11 GPUs. Fixes shadow map corruption seen with DirectX 10 GPUs. Fixes cases of black corruption lines/triangles with DirectX 10 GPUs. +1 just installed the driver ..and trying out..see what happens..I have 560TI and I keep all medium settings ..hehehe
rayray064 Posted November 12, 2011 Member ID: 2958 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 21 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 58 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 463 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2012 Birthday: 11/06/1993 Posted November 12, 2011 I got a GeForce 550ti and it works great for bf3
PrimalFear Posted November 13, 2011 Member ID: 159 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 855 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 93 Achievement Points: 5145 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 9, 2012 Birthday: 09/21/1971 Author Posted November 13, 2011 It's a great card but it is also a sensitive card, reminds me of setting an equalizer on a stereo. All up or all down sounds like crap but fine tune adjustment for preference can yield that perfect sound. I have the foundation set, but juuuuust a little more tweaking needed. This thread was both me venting my frustration and asking for suggestions at the same time, The card is working great I just never had all these options before, it has been a learning experience for me, and you guys helped me alot, thank you
CplMOFO Posted November 13, 2011 Member ID: 1924 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1012 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 5864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 05/30/1973 Device: Windows Posted November 13, 2011 I just started to get issues with an error message (driver related)...with 285.62 WHQL Win7 I'm trying the 285.79 BETA.... Like X-ray mentions, we'll have to wait a little, both the GPU makers will improve the drivers, and EA-DICE will HAVE to polish their game engine a little via patches... Issues that I got a few times so far: -Green flicker (both AMD/ATI and nVIDIA) -Game bug where you get stuck into spectator mode in back & white colors -Driver issue error message -joining server...endless loop but 95% of my gaming time with BF3 has been awesome.... Awards
CplMOFO Posted November 13, 2011 Member ID: 1924 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1012 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 101 Achievement Points: 5864 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/26/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 05/30/1973 Device: Windows Posted November 13, 2011 PrimalFear It's a great card but it is also a sensitive card, reminds me of setting an equalizer on a stereo. All up or all down sounds like crap but fine tune adjustment for preference can yield that perfect sound. I have the foundation set, but juuuuust a little more tweaking needed. This thread was both me venting my frustration and asking for suggestions at the same time, The card is working great I just never had all these options before, it has been a learning experience for me, and you guys helped me alot, thank you On that note, Primal, There is a few guides that will surely come out at some point in time for "optimizing" the settings for the game... This is a few things I seen while browsing the net in regards with BF3 performance: -disable hyper threading on i7 processors reduces stutter (for people having the issue obviously) -nVIDIA...IF MOUSE LAG ISSUES ONLY = set "pre-rendered frames" value to 0 in the nVIDIA control panel fixes it.... Awards
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