KingStinger! Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Since when is it illegal to wave the American flag in the USA? These people were all individually fined on the spot.. Am i missing something? I fly the American and Canadian flags in my yard here in Canada and I dont get fined.. Edited December 12, 2013 by KingStinger! JohnnyQuest 1 Awards
Devildog4355 Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 15237 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 27 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 958 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 580 Achievement Points: 6679 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/30/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2021 Birthday: 05/04/1992 Posted December 12, 2013 All tho this is disheartening, and this cop was being a dick. you can tell he is new to the force. i had a friend that wrote tickets to everyone that rolled passed a stop sign. He was enforcing a county ordinance of solicitation without a permit. These are common in my state. they could of done this the legal way and just got the permit for that day. both party's the cops and the guys both handled this incorrectly. Awards
KingStinger! Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Author Posted December 12, 2013 All tho this is disheartening, and this cop was being a dick. you can tell he is new to the force. i had a friend that wrote tickets to everyone that rolled passed a stop sign. He was enforcing a county ordinance of solicitation without a permit. These are common in my state. they could of done this the legal way and just got the permit for that day. both party's the cops and the guys both handled this incorrectly. So what you're saying is you have to take out a permit to wave the American flag on American soil? I understand they had other signs to but the American flag was specifically stated in the video. That is ludicrous... JohnnyQuest 1 Awards
Devildog4355 Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 15237 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 27 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 958 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 580 Achievement Points: 6679 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/30/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2021 Birthday: 05/04/1992 Posted December 12, 2013 So what you're saying is you have to take out a permit to wave the American flag on American soil? I understand they had other signs to but the American flag was specifically stated in the video. That is ludicrous... Yea, Its a form of protest. Even tho protest is protected by the constitution in a lot of counties around the country they have this "No soliciting without permit" laws. the company i work for has a lot of protesters that hold signs outside the campus they have to get a soliciting permit to stand next to the street and hold those signs. these laws are past for safety reasons. Awards
KingStinger! Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Author Posted December 12, 2013 Yea, Its a form of protest. Even tho protest is protected by the constitution in a lot of counties around the country they have this "No soliciting without permit" laws. the company i work for has a lot of protesters that hold signs outside the campus they have to get a soliciting permit to stand next to the street and hold those signs. these laws are past for safety reasons. Yea, I believe that is the case here in Canada as well for protests. But the flag should never be a part of that permit. Any human being should have the right and freedom to fly the flag of the country the live in without any legal red tape whenever or wherever they so choose. JohnnyQuest and Leadfinger 2 Awards
little_old_man Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted December 12, 2013 I think maybe you're all missing the point of why the cops were issuing citations. The group of people weren't simply standing on a freeway overpass waving American flags. They were having a political rally/protest, and most towns and cities require that those be permitted in advance. If you look carefully at the signs the men are holding and the big banner they tied to the fence, it said IMPEACH OBAMA. Now, most of you know me well enough to realize that I happen to agree with those guys, but I also have enough brains not to do it over a freeway where what I'm doing could distract drivers and cause an accident. A few years ago in the town where I live a similar protest was happening on a freeway overpass and a family of 4 was killed in an accident that resulted from the protest. Call me old fashioned but I can think of better ways to protest our government than endangering people's lives just to get my point across. HarryWeezer, Devildog4355, FRENCHI and 5 others 8 Awards
Devildog4355 Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 15237 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 27 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 958 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 580 Achievement Points: 6679 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/30/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2021 Birthday: 05/04/1992 Posted December 12, 2013 idk just seems to me like there were antagonizing. if you don't like a law or ordinance you fight to get it taken off the books. not go against it, we the people created a system that you can create and repeal laws that seem to be dishonorable. Awards
Devildog4355 Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 15237 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 27 Topic Count: 93 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 958 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 580 Achievement Points: 6679 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/30/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2021 Birthday: 05/04/1992 Posted December 12, 2013 Yea, I believe that is the case here in Canada as well for protests. But the flag should never be a part of that permit. Any human being should have the right and freedom to fly the flag of the country the live in without any legal red tape whenever or wherever they so choose. took the words out of my mouth, i couldn't think of how to word it. but you did it perfectly! JohnnyQuest 1 Awards
fireurza Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 677 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 18 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1457 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 791 Achievement Points: 9890 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 11/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16, 2024 Birthday: 02/20/1986 Posted December 12, 2013 Yea, Its a form of protest. Even tho protest is protected by the constitution in a lot of counties around the country they have this "No soliciting without permit" laws. the company i work for has a lot of protesters that hold signs outside the campus they have to get a soliciting permit to stand next to the street and hold those signs. these laws are past for safety reasons. >.> Protesting is not soliciting.... Awards
KingStinger! Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Author Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) I think maybe you're all missing the point of why the cops were issuing citations. The group of people weren't simply standing on a freeway overpass waving American flags. They were having a political rally/protest, and most towns and cities require that those be permitted in advance. If you look carefully at the signs the men are holding and the big banner they tied to the fence, it said IMPEACH OBAMA. Now, most of you know me well enough to realize that I happen to agree with those guys, but I also have enough brains not to do it over a freeway where what I'm doing could distract drivers and cause an accident. A few years ago in the town where I live a similar protest was happening on a freeway overpass and a family of 4 was killed in an accident that resulted from the protest. Call me old fashioned but I can think of better ways to protest our government than endangering people's lives just to get my point across. I agree with you 100% other than the fact that you think im missing the point. I understand the illegal protest, permit required. BUT if you watch from 1:45 to 2 minutes in the video he is giving him hell for DISPLAYING THE FLAG and I dont think that both sides are in the wrong. They are not enticing one another. The second a police officer tells me i CANNOT display my country flag, that my friend is a game changer. I WOULD REBEL, BECOME BELLIGERANT, and SITE MY RIGHTS AND FREEDOM for the sake of MY country a well.. The officers i believe in this case enticed the citizens to anger and forced them to defend there rights and freedoms.. I think you and most other Americans would do the same if told you could display your flag. Edited December 12, 2013 by KingStinger! Pharticus 1 Awards
TheLastColdBeer Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 489 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 52 Topic Count: 553 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4745 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 6058 Achievement Points: 42053 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 18 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 23, 2024 Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Android Posted December 12, 2013 Actually, yes. Flying or displaying the stars & stripes on public property requires a permit. Sad to say, it has come to this. On private property you are bound by local law, but are still able to fly whatever colors you wish. Ordinances suck, but that's what we live with. Is this a free country? As long as you can afford it....... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) eh... cops being dicks, people being dicks to the cops... there are always some rotten apples in the barrel. LOL, funny part when the cop said he wasn't going to see him in court lol... oh yes he will, and the judge will have a good laugh at him. I don't think an overpass is the safest place to do that... all seems fine until a driver gets distracted and is killed in a crash. Edited December 12, 2013 by eidolonFIRE JohnnyQuest and Twinkie 13 2
Leadfinger Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Posted December 12, 2013 I think maybe you're all missing the point of why the cops were issuing citations. The group of people weren't simply standing on a freeway overpass waving American flags. They were having a political rally/protest, and most towns and cities require that those be permitted in advance. If you look carefully at the signs the men are holding and the big banner they tied to the fence, it said IMPEACH OBAMA. Now, most of you know me well enough to realize that I happen to agree with those guys, but I also have enough brains not to do it over a freeway where what I'm doing could distract drivers and cause an accident. A few years ago in the town where I live a similar protest was happening on a freeway overpass and a family of 4 was killed in an accident that resulted from the protest. Call me old fashioned but I can think of better ways to protest our government than endangering people's lives just to get my point across. LOM You would have been a good carpenter because you tend to hit the nail on the head. I do agree that flag waving of the country you live in should not subject you to any type of legal action period . . . however doing so in a way that could endanger others should not be exempt. I'll leave it up to the lawyers to decide what "way" would be illegal . . . but either way . . .Obama has got to go and take his "dog and pony show" of a healthcare system with him. eidolonFIRE 1 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Posted December 12, 2013 One of these days the people will wake up and realize that they don't actually have any power. The power doesn't belong to the people if they never use it. And we don't, so they do.
StanG Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 824 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 19 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 317 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 168 Achievement Points: 2144 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 4 Birthday: 03/08/1967 Device: Windows Posted December 12, 2013 JUST FUCKIN SAD !!! this country is going down hill every day because of shit like this . the gov. passes laws that make no sense and take away our rights ever day . JohnnyQuest and Pharticus 2 Awards
HarryWeezer Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 20166 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 611 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 7655 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 7232 Achievement Points: 53682 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 36 Joined: 10/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 26 Birthday: 10/16/1946 Device: Windows Posted December 12, 2013 It's easy to be distracted when it comes to what may be perceived as an attack by government on what we consider our basic rights - contsitutional and otherwise. Most of us are patriots here - one of the reason I love this clan. The American flag has flown in front of my house since the day I bought my first one right after Vietnam and I am first in line to defend it and what it stands for. That said, I have no sympathy for folks who look for their 15 minutes of fame using patriotism as a tool. I'm talking about the seemingly unending stream of stories about this senior or that veteran or religious extremist being ordered by their homeowners association to remove religions icons and most often, American flags, from areas where they agreed in writing to not place them by buying property in such controlled environments. And certainly I have no sympathy for persons arrested waving flags (ANY flag) on a highway overpass - thank you, law enforcement for removing a threat to traffic safety. If your relative was killed by somebody who looked up to see that distraction, you'd be rightfully filing lawsuits. JohnnyQuest, Tball and KingStinger! 3 Awards
FRENCHI Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 1729 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 106 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 7521 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3632 Achievement Points: 49202 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/23/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 16, 2021 Birthday: 12/26/1969 Posted December 12, 2013 je suis ok avec le fait que cette manifestation aurrai pu tuer des gens avec des accidents sur l autoroute et celà mérite une amende . Il doit y avoir aux USA des endroit moins dangereux pour manifesté ...... Içi en france il n y a pas longtemps une manifestation de farmer comme moi a provoqué la mort d un homme sur l autoroute JohnnyQuest and HarryWeezer 2 Awards
JohnnyQuest Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 1965 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1176 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 1082 Achievement Points: 8599 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 15, 2016 Birthday: 02/11/1969 Posted December 12, 2013 I think it's starting to boil down to what religion wants what....back in my youth....we sang the national anthem and said one passage of the Bible..since then all are banned..first it was one or two children wanting to be exempt from this process because their parents didn't want them to partake in this morning ritiual,,,,and as time went on..others started to jump on the band wagon...now it's ridiculous at what our rules and regulations have become...laws against this and laws against that...and for what..a say? more power?,,wanting to be recognized?,,,or just grand standing?,,,Lobyists are a bunch of watchdogs just waiting for someone to slip out of line so that they can get on the news and make their voice be heard.If they wanted that much attention for their cause or reason then do it in a constuctive way not destructive,,,i know there is a lot of old school folks that go about sticking up for their rights by flag waving and shouting pro this and pro that..but seriously folks i belleve that a communist world is on the approach..how to think how to act. What ever happened to just live your life be productive and reitre with a bit of money so that you are comfortable for the remainder of your life..not all this negitive bullshit..my rights to do this and our rights to do that . How about channel all that fuckin bullshit into helping out our fellow man and their families reguardless of colour creed or religion?,,,Just live people just live..and forget about my rights to this and my rights to that...go into the world and be productive have fun and LIVE...stop the negetive shit and have some fun with your families while we are here on this rock...because after all we are only here for a small fraction of time,,,Life is starting to be so militant...and personallly i think this direction that we are taking really sucks big dik,,,i remember when a watchdog was just that...a mean old hound dog just waiting for someone to put one step in their territory...now the populous has become dogs ...snarling and teeth bearing at this process and that attitude,,,well that just makes for a miserable life of defence and retorts...non productive to say the least...Who says religion doesn't dictate government,,,bulllshit...it rules the planet now...and will only become worse....so my advice is just live life and enjoy,,,stop the crap and have some fun with your families ..life is too short Leadfinger, StanG, john tams and 2 others 5
JohnnyQuest Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 1965 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1176 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 1082 Achievement Points: 8599 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 15, 2016 Birthday: 02/11/1969 Posted December 12, 2013 So what you're saying is you have to take out a permit to wave the American flag on American soil? I understand they had other signs to but the American flag was specifically stated in the video. That is ludicrous... They sure do wave them when they burn them in other countries don't they King?,,,,i've seen countless countries burning flags ...where is their government to site them a citiation?,,,fucking joke StanG 1
JohnnyQuest Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 1965 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1176 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 1082 Achievement Points: 8599 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 15, 2016 Birthday: 02/11/1969 Posted December 12, 2013 Since when is it illegal to wave the American flag in the USA? These people were all individually fined on the spot.. Am i missing something? I fly the American and Canadian flags in my yard here in Canada and I dont get fined.. Next they are going to protest putting up flags on your property for Canada day King ,,,,whatever you do world don't be proud of your Country...adhere to the lobyists...[fuckers]
Sonovabich Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5197 Achievement Points: 131535 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 7 Device: Windows Posted December 12, 2013 Since when is it illegal to wave the American flag in the USA? These people were all individually fined on the spot.. Am i missing something? I fly the American and Canadian flags in my yard here in Canada and I dont get fined.. We had this crap for years in the UK, the Scots Welsh and Irish can all fly their own flags and sing their own National Anthems, us English have to make do with the Union Jack (The British Flag) and sing the British National Anthem, a few years ago if you dared to fly the English flag (The Cross of St George) you were branded a racist by the politically correct brigade or the scummy press, we are still a nation without it's own National Anthem, it bloody stinks and they can all go and fuck off. KingStinger!, Leadfinger, JohnnyQuest and 1 other 4
Hemps Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted December 12, 2013 where's the uproar about people wearing American flag underwear and the other disrespectful uses of the Flag? Them being ticketed for being on the bridge like that is fine, the flag should never been a problem unless they where disrespecting it. KingStinger! and JohnnyQuest 2 Awards
Tball Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 112 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1132 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 228 Achievement Points: 6975 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 3, 2015 Birthday: 10/09/1960 Posted December 12, 2013 I must hand it to the police they kept their cool. Those people were badgering these police to provoke a fight. The bridge was not the place to hash this out. I would have thrown everyone of those people in jail ass wipes using the flag for there own agenda. Shame on them. Leadfinger, little_old_man, Blackbart and 1 other 4
KingStinger! Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Author Posted December 12, 2013 Next they are going to protest putting up flags on your property for Canada day King ,,,,whatever you do world don't be proud of your Country...adhere to the lobyists...[fuckers] I am American, born Canadian. Therefore i fly both flags at my house. I have a lot of pride for both countries. It will be a cold day in hell that i would ever take my flags for the sake of anyone but myself. They would have to burn my house down to get them down. JohnnyQuest 1 Awards
Damage_inc- Posted December 13, 2013 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Posted December 13, 2013 well i guess its because u need a permit to demonstrate and wave signs that disrupt the public.which is what they did on an overpass with there signs,they also had flags Devildog4355 1 Awards
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