Hemps Posted August 29, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted August 29, 2014 of coarse the media would want you to thank that Tony did it on purpose and make a big issue of it to bring in more ratings. but did you see any of the media go out and talk to the nascar racers he races with, even the ones that have had bad history with tony, nope you didn't cause they would of all told you that Steward would of not ran over someone on purpose. If it was a no name driver we would of never of heard of it in the news! I'm glad Tony is getting back in the car and back to work, got to be a hard thing to deal with for sure! Leadfinger 1 Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 22 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Posted August 30, 2014 to all of those that say he did it on purpose do you think he really wants to have a death on his conscious. I dont care how big a jerk stewart is thats not something he wanted to have to live with for the rest of his life. you know he has questioned his actions probably hourly since. what if i had of just hit the inner wall. what if i could have gotten stopped right before, did I have time to do something different. maybe he has answered some of those questions in his head. I dont know his mind at all but i would place big money at least some of these thoughts have crossed his mind CobraBites, little_old_man and Leadfinger 3 Awards
CobraBites Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Author Posted August 30, 2014 It is quite a shame and this kid was only 20. Must have been quite talented to be driving with some of the best. I will say, agree or not, that I think that the attach on Stewart is only because of his known temper flares, he can be an ass and is not overly liked but if it were any other driver, it would be chalked up to a tragic accident avoidable if Ward stayed in his car until it was safe. Even under caution, cars are still moving and body against car is no match. And if the statement made in the post by Wolf above is accurate, that that side of the car is quite blinded to the driver, then that is what this may come down to, a tragic accident, nothing more. But Tony will still have to live with it as anyone would regardless of the circumstances. Ward should have stayed in his car and taken his dispute up with Tony off track. And he probably knew that but at that moment, that was probably the last thing on his mind at that moment... Just tragic... Condolences to his family and friends. i will say this one more time then im done with it...personally i hate tony stewart but this has nothing to do with my take on what happend.......ppl constantly blaming Ward for this and it was his own fault...now i do agree he shouldnt have ran out on track bad temper bad decision but lets face this part of he 20 tempers get the best of 20 yr olds...he barely out of teenage yrs and we all know how teenagers are....however, tony is 20 + yr vet at racing ....and i dont care what ppl say bout whether tony could see him on track being dark and Ward wearing dark race suit...im sorry i dont buy that at all...Tony clearly saw him and knew Ward was there....Tony saw the car in front move down to the bottom of the track to avoid Ward himself Tony was less than 1 sec behind the car in front of him...this is why i say he knew Ward was there....lets face it Tony being seasoned racing vet knew he shoulda moved out of the way and avoided him....now with that being said ...although , I DO NOT BELIEVE TONY HIT HIM ON PURPOSE ...HE DID STAY CLOSE TO WARD ON PURPOSE TO SCARE HIM OR W/E TONY WAS THINKING....HE HIT THE GAS TO SPIT DIRT UP AT HIM OR W/E AND GOT WAY TO CLOSE AND HIT HIM AND IT ULTIMATELY LED TO HIS DEATH....that behavior by Tony is unexceptable as a professional...and i do feel Tony should have some accountability for that and man up to tell the truth ...ofc with type of punishment that would be fall him if he did would probably be very severe we will never know Tony's true intent of his actions...but either way its something Tony will have to live with for the rest of his life and he alone will be held accountable for costing the life of another fellow human being to God for it....and b4 anyone says i dont know racing...i will tell you im 40 yrs old i been watching racing since cale yarborough and richard petty was racing ...i been watching racing since early 1980s....i know racing....i have been racer i know...racing is in my blood...
CobraBites Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Author Posted August 30, 2014 of coarse the media would want you to thank that Tony did it on purpose and make a big issue of it to bring in more ratings. but did you see any of the media go out and talk to the nascar racers he races with, even the ones that have had bad history with tony, nope you didn't cause they would of all told you that Steward would of not ran over someone on purpose. If it was a no name driver we would of never of heard of it in the news! I'm glad Tony is getting back in the car and back to work, got to be a hard thing to deal with for sure! look i will say this....Tony may have not hit the kid on purpose but he did in fact purposely got close to him to scare the kid or spit dirt at him to intemidate him or w/e...he just didnt meant to get too close but on dirt track when u hit the gas like tony did the car rear is goin to slide up and that is what happend ...although it wasnt on purpose to kill him it was on purpose to show up the kid tony just made mistake and got way too close when he had opportunity to avoid him and chose to do the latter...unfortunately it cost Ward his life and tony will have to live with that his life.....personally tony sux anymore he hasnt won any races in good while i say tony needs to just give up racing and resign go away tony u has been driver
CobraBites Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Author Posted August 30, 2014 watch this video all way to end and listen what Tony says in interview after incident.....
CobraBites Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Author Posted August 30, 2014 hxtr 1
Noears711XI Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 189 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2162 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1940 Achievement Points: 19609 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 8, 2022 Birthday: 07/09/1957 Posted August 30, 2014 Yeah that has always been Tony's problem showboat anger. The worst part was he caused it trying to push Kenseth Down. hxtr and CobraBites 2 Awards
hxtr Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 30, 2014 It's been stated over and over what a tragedy this accident was. Tony Stewart is not the monster that he's being made out to be. Were there some bad choices made by both parties . .yes there was. The accident that created the situation was just racing pure and simple and is very much a part of dirt track racing . . true Tony Stewart is a veteran driver and Kevin Ward although young is a veteran driver as well having been driving since a very young age. After watching the video in a very slowed down format you can see Kevin Ward grab the front wing of Tony Stewart's car then the back of the wing and as he grabs the wing you can see that it has an effect on the car as if he was trying shake the car at that point he gets pulled under the tire and tossed to the side of the track. Whether or not Tony Stewart revs his engine at the moment Kevin Ward grabs the wing is inconclusive since the camera is positioned on the near side of the track the revving sound heard would more likely be a car on the near side of the track based on the sound level of the revving engine. For anyone to make the assumption that Tony Stewart was trying to run him over is completely untrue and without merit. Did he drive by closer than good judgement would suggest . . . perhaps but looking at the amount of track left after Kevin Ward walks down to what appears to be 1 car width of track he leaves Tony Stewart with very little room to go by. If the car that hit Kevin Ward was driven by an unknown unprofessional driver we probably wouldn't hear much about it except for the night it happened and the next day news, the driver would be cleared because Kevin Ward was the major contributor to the accident by walking into traffic and grabbing the wing of the car. If you look at the accident without names and just the video you see a driver get out of his car and walks thru traffic and makes contact with a car that leads to him being hit by the rear wheel and killed then its just another bad accident at a small town dirt track. Right or wrong that's how I see it I agree he did not try to run him over but his negligence and the other drivers negligence cause a death. Tony committed manslaughter because it was his negligence that helped kill that kid. That kid had no weapon so his negligence is mute.... just pure stupidity. He should have waited till after the race then kicked his fucking ass rather trying pick a fight with a car. It's clear Tony revved his engine @ or just before impact. Was it because of the impact or was he teaching that kid a lesson is the question? Either case it goes back to negligence. His foot should have been on the break or neither and much further down the track due to the location of the wrecked but definitely not on the gas. Tony has a history and he has a bad temper. He should be ashamed of himself and he should quite the sport. Do a Pete Rose no him,,,, he's a disgrace to the sport. Then put his ass in prison.
tsw 8.5 Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 906 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 144 Topic Count: 537 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 17541 Content Per Day: 3.13 Reputation: 42644 Achievement Points: 151918 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 691 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 37 minutes ago Birthday: 11/30/1960 Device: Windows Posted August 30, 2014 HXTR bud things happen ..you can say what you like ..tony will race in this weekends race ..tony will never be the same in life after this ..people want to put the blame on some one ..and that is the way of life ..but to think he killed a person just to do it is wrong..and you talking crap about things you don't have any control over is just not the thing to do ..and any 1 that thinks tony did it on purpose ..are morons .. WolfTiS and Leadfinger 2 Awards
hxtr Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 30, 2014 HXTR bud things happen ..you can say what you like ..tony will race in this weekends race ..tony will never be the same in life after this ..people want to put the blame on some one ..and that is the way of life ..but to think he killed a person just to do it is wrong..and you talking crap about things you don't have any control over is just not the thing to do ..and any 1 that thinks tony did it on purpose ..are morons .. I stated he sure did not kill him on purpose in my last comments. At first I did... till I studied the video over and over... it looked horrific. What I for sure seen was his neglect and that caused that accent. It's the law if someone kills some one out of neglect they committed manslaughter. If anyone thinks Tony is not guilty of neglect just has a seriously bios for the person, sport, not paying attention but clearly in denial. But I still love you...
hxtr Posted August 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 30, 2014 Cobra great examples.... here is one Tony should have been run over for.. HE GOT OUT OF HE CAR AND TRIED TO FIGHT A CAR like that poor kid did. Except Tony lived another day to kill. He deserves to go to prison. He destroyed a family for his selfish actions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mRY79mat34#t=74
Hemps Posted August 31, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted August 31, 2014 Here is another post from the news that might help some people understand... This was posted by one of the people who works on the car in front of Tony Stewart in the video. Definitely worth reading in my opinion. From Mark Tychoniewicz "i have driven these cars,the right side board on the top wing will block out an entire car let alone a person standing there,i now work on the 45 car in the video and the driver said he just saw at the last second and just missed him,Tony had even less time to react to the situation.people in the stands or watching this video have no idea how fast these thing happen and how limited our view is inside the car.it was a very bad turn of events that happened but we all know the dangers involved in the sport we love." Also for those that don't know, sprint cars on dirt are driven by the throttle rather than the steering wheel in some cases hence the reason you hear Tony's car throttling up. Just for the record I am not a Stewart fan but he was not at fault. you are 100% on target with this wolf, for people to say he did it on purpose or tried to get close to him too throw dirt on him without any other facts is wrong. it is a fact those things don't give you much of a view from the drivers seat with the roll bars,wings,nets, helmet, dirt on the shield. and also those things don't steer at all, and to try and make a quick turn is impossible without getting the rear end over, that is way he throttled it the very second he hit ward, to try and turn the thing, but a lot of comments from the media and others who really don't know what they are talking about, we should be hearing it from those who race those cars and tracks, but i don't think i even seen one interview from a dirt track racer, this was the first time i heard something from a dirt track racer. WolfTiS and Leadfinger 2 Awards
Unchileno Posted August 31, 2014 Member ID: 101 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 110 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 8139 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 6768 Achievement Points: 61591 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 21 Birthday: 01/23/1974 Device: iPhone Posted August 31, 2014 hxtr, Leadfinger, Hemps and 1 other 4 Awards
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