BigPapaDean Posted October 29, 2014 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1197 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6521 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4407 Achievement Points: 63388 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 08:53 AM Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted October 29, 2014 There are hundreds of reasons "why not" because there are independent studies that are supported by scientific facts, while all the reasons of "why" are supported by marketers that gain from selling them. All you have to do to convince us that we may be wrong is find a proper independent study (it doesn't even have to be double blind) that supports your side of the argument. That is how you can properly argue your case, otherwise you just sound like a nutjob. We have been trying to help you see reason instead of what you currently see which is a combination of not wanting to be wrong and the placebo effect. Or at least that's the conclusion we came up with because you refuse to give us any real evidence and instead just get defensive. Would you please link these so-called 100's scientific studies? I would love to see them! hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted October 29, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 What does not work? The entire thing... or just part of it? It does more than one thing. More like 4 types of water. Which of the 4 does it not do? One should be the 2.5 acidic water. Are you telling me it will not make some acidic water at 2.5? other have.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepaz666 Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 130 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 13 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 466 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 181 Achievement Points: 4295 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 27, 2023 Birthday: 11/06/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted October 30, 2014 fu..hxtr TBB and hxtr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 !fu Paz!!!!!!!!!! mikepaz666 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneill Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Would you please link these so-called 100's scientific studies? I would love to see them! Hundreds of reasons, not hundreds of studies lol. As far as I know, not a single account of a placebo-controlled clinical study on alkaline/ionized water in humans has ever appeared in a mainstream, peer-reviewed medical journal. but there is science that disproves it. http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/doc/422107642.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Jan%2022,%202007&author=Chris%20Woolston&pub=&edition=&startpage=&desc= http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html#REFS Edited October 30, 2014 by Oneill The Flush and mouselad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITRO Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 1095 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 34 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3639 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 2460 Achievement Points: 24702 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 24 Birthday: 03/23/1979 Device: Android Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) If you are getting benefits from it placebo or not @@hxtr and it makes you happy etc then what does it matter what others think right? Btw !fu Edited October 30, 2014 by NITRO hxtr and TBB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 If you are getting benefits from it placebo or not @@hxtr and it makes you happy etc then what does it matter what others think right? Btw !fu I totally understand the doubt. Julie doubted as well. She is healed..... it has to be proved to her as well. Ask her.......... And BTW !fu too ............... did anyone call Walmart. The meds have still not been picked up. ; I will get you more info on how to verify if you need. I gave enough already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NITRO Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 1095 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 34 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3639 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 2460 Achievement Points: 24702 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 24 Birthday: 03/23/1979 Device: Android Share Posted October 30, 2014 Ha I'll try nearly anything once or twice. I do need to include more water in my diet, I'm a shocker for neglecting my daily intake of water. But fuck it alcohol has a percentage of water, I'll make do with that for now lol hxtr, JohnnyDos and BUDMAN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
ChknFngr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 922 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3472 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1286 Achievement Points: 23224 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/23/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 16, 2021 Birthday: 10/01/1975 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) but can it make some good beer ? Edited October 30, 2014 by ChknFngr TBB, hxtr and The Flush 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
NITRO Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 1095 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 34 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3639 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 2460 Achievement Points: 24702 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 24 Birthday: 03/23/1979 Device: Android Share Posted October 30, 2014 Hmmm deionised alcohol, never heard of that, theres a potential niche market lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
little_old_man Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Pud Muscle, hxtr, Leadfinger and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
WldPenguin Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 2995 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 181 Topic Count: 690 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 4438 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 6773 Achievement Points: 48571 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 68 Joined: 11/17/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 02/13/1966 Device: Linux Share Posted October 30, 2014 This thread has gone off-topic a bit with the whole discussion of pyramid schemes....but please do your research before calling all network marketing companies pyramid schemes. It is a pliable way that many companies bring their products to market, and even Donald Trump and Warren Buffet and Robert Kiyosaki are involved in networking products to market. It eliminates the need for heavy advertising and marketing dollars, thus allowing the $ to be paid to the sales force. Companies without products that just recruit are what gives the profession a bad rap. When you think about it, the government is a pyramid, most companies are a pyramid, and within network marketing and many other industries there will be good and bad, but not all are "schemes". hxtr and BigPapaDean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
mouselad Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted October 30, 2014 right. all we are asking for is 1 legitimate outside peer reviewed study on these things doing the things they promise. you won't be able to find one. why? because they don't exist. Why don't they exist? because the product is a scam. you've been hoodwinked, bamboozled. The Flush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPapaDean Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1197 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6521 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4407 Achievement Points: 63388 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 08:53 AM Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted October 30, 2014 You ever think you go about things the wrong way Hxtr? There is a reason that you aren't a member any longer...maybe tone it back a bit. People CAN disagree with you and shouldn't be called names just because of that. If anyone is a "fucking idiot", I would lay that title on the person that spends FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS on a fucking water filtration system! I thought we were all "fucking idiots" lol hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Device: Windows Share Posted October 30, 2014 Lets lighten this post up, who would like to mix with this JohnnyDos, NITRO, Pud Muscle and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChknFngr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 922 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3472 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1286 Achievement Points: 23224 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/23/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 16, 2021 Birthday: 10/01/1975 Share Posted October 30, 2014 can she make good beer ? hxtr and The Flush 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Sure she can drink it........... This thread has gone off-topic a bit with the whole discussion of pyramid schemes....but please do your research before calling all network marketing companies pyramid schemes. It is a pliable way that many companies bring their products to market, and even Donald Trump and Warren Buffet and Robert Kiyosaki are involved in networking products to market. It eliminates the need for heavy advertising and marketing dollars, thus allowing the $ to be paid to the sales force. Companies without products that just recruit are what gives the profession a bad rap. When you think about it, the government is a pyramid, most companies are a pyramid, and within network marketing and many other industries there will be good and bad, but not all are "schemes". Glad someone has some common sense here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPapaDean Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1197 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6521 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4407 Achievement Points: 63388 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 08:53 AM Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted October 30, 2014 can she make good beer ? Can she mix water with oil? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Did anyone call Walmart? 3009 Schertz Tx 78154.... Julie Ritamaulta she has 2 scrips waiting for her since the day before the start of this post. Julie is healed.... with just water. 2.5 pH water.................... from a Kangen water system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 here is the number... 210-651-8217 2 to 3 times a year this happens to her...... and now allergies are cured with a Kangen water system. 100% Guaranteed..... I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Here is a independent study a mouse was asking for from consumers report not in favor of a Kangen but comparing it to others.... They are missing facts as to what are the differences... but they don't tell you they don't work. http://www.alkalinewaterionizers.org/consumer-reports-why-are-kangen-water-ionizers-so-expensive/ and a site you can get more info.... http://ionizerresearch.com/kangen-water-buyers-guide/?gclid=CMz0m7Tz1MECFQyMaQodaZQAQw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 any questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBubbles Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 349 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 821 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 541 Achievement Points: 5195 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/10/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 5, 2017 Birthday: 01/27/1971 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I read everyone's remarks, read all the scientific data supplied. Here something that I'll add, drinking acidic anything for me hurts my teeth. I have issues with my gum line causing the sensitivity. I'm wondering what my dentist would advise here, assuming the machine actually dropped the ph to around the stated 2.5 ph. I'm sure he'll ask how I got water to such a low PH? Hxtr, have you tested your water to see what the ph is? I'm curious, if it is in fact low, you'll get some credibility. Part of the claim against this units is the machines don't work, or rather do not drop potable tap water down to 2.5 ph. Measure your water's ph at an outside tap and then the ph off your machine. Lets see if this thing works? Hxtr, tuff sell hey? hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 No doubt it's tough...... My tap water is 7.0 pH which is in most city water systems. To regulate this they use Chlorine and Sodium Fluoride. It is very hard to raise above 7.0 potential Hydrogen with tape water containing Chlorine and Sodium Fluoride. I don't have the pool testing equipment to prove it yet but I will. You can drop tap water like a rock with ease.... just add a little Gatoraide to it or any sports drink period.Add a little Gatorade and it will drop to 2.5 which is what Gatorade is.... 2.5 potential Hydrogen. I will never ever even if I am dying... drink Gatorade again. It's poison. Now I understand why when I used to drink Gatorade 2.5, Sodas 2.5, and Beer 3.5 I would get Acid Reflux.... the acid in my body was too high. I have not even come close to having a case of heart burn since I started drinking this water and that is just not possible... it is a every day thing for me.It means my pH is higher and less acid in my system. It is all I have been drinking besides beer. I am changing to Vodka.... zero hangover when you mix 9.0 pH Kangen water and Viodka or any clear liquor. My experiment for tonight. Anyone want to ooVoo watching me get drunk. I will provide more info later... I have to run. Your question is not an easy one to answer so I have to gather specifics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted October 30, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Fuck it is Thurday.... Make that tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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