Astronomer Posted August 12, 2015 Member ID: 2069 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 214 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2411 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2409 Achievement Points: 18298 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 08/08/1966 Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) Hi all, Here's what I've compiled so far. If you want to lock your system down and stop the annoying auto-install of updates, this info will help. Sure, some of the new features require sending a boatload of your info to Microsoft servers, but I don't need those features and I want my operating system to just run my programs, thank you very much. Otherwise, Windows 10 is a good incremental update to the Windows OS. After opening "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security", you'll find two pre-defined Outbound rules, both of which are labelled "Search". Try right-clicking and disabling these rules. That was enough to disable Bing searching in the preview builds (before Microsoft provided the option not to include online search results). I cannot test at the time of writing, but it may be enough to prevent connections from being established by the search component to the *.a-msedge.net servers. EDIT #1: Keeping both rules enabled and changing the policy of each to "Block the connection" does the trick. Without taking this measure, it seems that the search component continues to harvest keystrokes and send them to Bing, even if one has toggled the button to omit online search results. EDIT #2: After changing the rules to block, if "Search online and include web results" is re-enabled and the entered search term does not match any local content, an entry to "Search the web" for the term is provided but the instant Bing results remain disabled. Clicking on said entry will convey the search term to Bing, by way of the default browser. Last edited by kerframil on Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:09 am ===================== If anyone is interested in turning off telemetry entirely, create a 32-bit DWORD in the Windows registry called AllowTelemetry and set it to zero, under the following key:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollectionThen turn off the following services:Diagnostics Tracking ServicedmwappushsvcReboot, and you're done.. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/windows-10-doesnt-offer-much-privacy-by-default-heres-how-to-fix-it/?comments=1 http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/ http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-windows-update-in-windows-10-rtm/ =================== I intend to investigate further. In the meantime, I want to point out that it is trivial to manually create a rule that accomplishes the same. In the Outbound rule list, select New Rule then choose Custom (in my case, the Predefined drop-down no longer lists Search as an option). Click Next, Customize, Apply to this service, then select "Windows Search" as the service. Finally, keep clicking Next until the rule has been added. Another method is to match against the Application Package name - as the predefined rule did - rather than the Service name. In my case, the package name is "microsoft.windows.cortana_cw5n1h2txyewy". This method is slightly less convenient because, for some reason, it's not possible limit the scope to an application package until after a rule has been added. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/windows-10-doesnt-offer-much-privacy-by-default-heres-how-to-fix-it/?comments=1&start=200 ================== Follow this guide to disable data collection:http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable- ... indows-10/Also edit your HOSTS file to block these websites:0.0.0.0 vortex.data.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 vortex-win.data.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net0.0.0.0 oca.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net0.0.0.0 sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net0.0.0.0 watson.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net0.0.0.0 redir.metaservices.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 choice.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net0.0.0.0 df.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 telemetry.appex.bing.net0.0.0.0 telemetry.urs.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 telemetry.appex.bing.net:4430.0.0.0 settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 survey.watson.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 watson.live.com0.0.0.0 watson.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 compatexchange.cloudapp.net0.0.0.0 cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net0.0.0.0 a-0001.a-msedge.net0.0.0.0 statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net0.0.0.0 diagnostics.support.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 corp.sts.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 pre.footprintpredict.com0.0.0.0 i1.services.social.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net0.0.0.0 bingads.microsoft.com0.0.0.0 www.bingads.microsoft.com Edited August 12, 2015 by Astronomer Mossticles 1 Awards
Merlin007 Posted August 13, 2015 Member ID: 2068 Group: +++ COD5 Head Admin Followers: 71 Topic Count: 1130 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 8588 Content Per Day: 1.63 Reputation: 7565 Achievement Points: 76639 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 67 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 16 Birthday: 05/23/1973 Device: Android Posted August 13, 2015 Thanks for the info astro. Will certainly give this a gander. Awards
Mossticles Posted August 13, 2015 Member ID: 21410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 77 Achievement Points: 613 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/14/1972 Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) If you don't want to edit your hosts file yourself, you can use "Destroy Windows 10 Spying" - it does that for you and more. Hint: Set a restore point before using it. Just in case. Edited August 13, 2015 by M0stlyHarmless BUDMAN and hxtr 2 Awards
Sammy Posted August 13, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.91 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted August 13, 2015 Considering how people feel about privacy, and that there are so many places that tell you how to delve into Windows and shut this all off, who came up with this bright idea? Certainly the bright idea of making the default opt-in? The 'user experience' arguments are nice and all. But how many people would actually sacrifice email privacy in order to get it? I wouldnt. One of the reasons I am highly suspicious of this whole thing is that it conveniently bypasses the whole encryption problem the various authorities have to deal with. Since keystrokes are all uploaded to MS and stored they have copies of everything before any encryption is done. So even the strongest encryption in the world is pointless unless it was done elsewhere before a single key was pressed. Astronomer 1 Awards
Astronomer Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 2069 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 214 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2411 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 2409 Achievement Points: 18298 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 08/08/1966 Author Posted August 14, 2015 How to edit your Hosts file: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/27350/beginner-geek-how-to-edit-your-hosts-file/?PageSpeed=noscript hxtr 1 Awards
hxtr Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 14, 2015 If you don't want to edit your hosts file yourself, you can use "Destroy Windows 10 Spying" - it does that for you and more. Hint: Set a restore point before using it. Just in case. Follow this advice.... it will put 103 host file exclusions. I contend them today in the AM. All good info. I have a cure. Will post later. google 1
ChknFngr Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 922 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3472 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 1286 Achievement Points: 23224 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/23/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 16, 2021 Birthday: 10/01/1975 Posted August 14, 2015 http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/windows-10-sends-data-to-microsoft-despite-of-privacy-setting-set-not-to.html Awards
hxtr Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 14, 2015 I think it is best to just run 7 or 8. Fuck windows 10. I am not upgrading anyone else to it. ChknFngr 1
Sammy Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.91 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2015 It's all about trust. The question is, do people trust Microsoft and Win10. Awards
hxtr Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 14, 2015 It's all about trust. The question is, do people trust Microsoft and Win10. I would say no and no to that. Then again I have trust issues.
Sammy Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.91 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2015 I guess the funniest part... or saddest... is how some are unconcerned about privacy and hacking problems so long as its cool to use. Facebook generation I guess. Which is fine. But I dont do Facebook nor want my OS to follow its example. Awards
7Toes Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted August 14, 2015 http://pxc-coding.com/portfolio/donotspy10/ here you go down load this simple its creates a restore point before you do anything hxtr 1 Awards
hxtr Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 14, 2015 One thing to think about is when you run updates... they can add these back and can add new ones. So this will be a cat and mouse game from now on.This is the perfect time for Lunix to rule the world.
Sammy Posted August 14, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.91 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted August 14, 2015 If Linux was actually coordinated in a big way then it would be a significant challenge. But as always that takes money. Lots of money. Especially since you cannot sell it. hxtr 1 Awards
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