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here you can see my system specs .

what can i change to upgrade and make my system better and faster.

problem is ,i can not play newer games on my system.

in this system i have a 400 watt power supply .

 

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Operating System
MS Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP2
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz:
44 °C
Kentsfield 65nm Technology
RAM
3,00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15)
Motherboard
MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-7502 (Socket 775):
22 °C
Graphics
LL 3220W (1680x1050@59Hz)
256MB GeForce 8600 GT (MSI):
57 °C
Hard Drives
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AACS-00ZUB0 ATA Device (SATA):
33 °C
Optical Drives
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS50 ATA Device
Audio
Creatix SAA7131, Triple Capture Device

 

Generated by Piriform Speccy v1.11.256
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Summary
Operating System
MS Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP2
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz:
44 °C
Kentsfield 65nm Technology
RAM
3,00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15)
Motherboard
MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-7502 (Socket 775):
22 °C
Graphics
LL 3220W (1680x1050@59Hz)
256MB GeForce 8600 GT (MSI):
57 °C
Hard Drives
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AACS-00ZUB0 ATA Device (SATA):
33 °C
Motherboard
Manufacturer:
MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
Model:
MS-7502
Version:
OEM
Chipset Vendor:
Intel
Chipset Model:
P35/G33/G31
Chipset Revision:
A2
Southbridge Vendor:
Intel
Southbridge Model:
82801IH (ICH9DH)
Southbridge Revision:
02
System Temperature:
22 °C
BIOS
Brand:
Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version:
6.00 PG
Date:
12/26/2007
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3.296 V
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Get a new Grahics Card,, maybe a MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II OC 880MHZ 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI DX11 PCI-E Video Card

 

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58303&vpn=N560GTX%2DTI%20Twin%20Frozr%20II%2FOC&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar

But there are better if cost is not a factor...And get rid of vista , maybe go to win 7 64 bit and upgrade you ram to 8 gig , other then a new build ..



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Just had a second look , your power supply would need upgrading as well , for a new video card..



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You have decent rig there so it wont take much to raise the bar a bit as LaRSin has pointed out.

1. upgrade Vista to Windows 7 (not necessary but recommended)

2. video card - your current card should play CoD5 set at lower settings but will affect game play enjoyment of course

3. power supply - (400W) will support some graphics card but this will depend what card you end up wanting so you may need a 500W or more

4. more memory - 3GB is suffcient but more would be better and is usually the cheapest way to add speed

 

Good luck, I've been there.  Just put one together not too long ago myself.



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the Q 6600 is still good enough to play all games...dont worry about that...ask X-Ray LOL

 

go for new PSU ....at least 600 watts for future updates...

maybe have a look at the old nvidia 460 series ....pretty cheap 

 

maybe go for a good socket 775 cpu cooler...OCing your cpu to 3.2 Ghz or even more might help as well :)



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Have to agree with Larsin and Merlin and Nightmare

 

In order

Upgrade memory to higher quantity - any more than 3.5GB and you need to upgrade to a 64-bit Operating system. I would ditch Vista first and go with 7 64-bit. I have 7 home Premium 64 on my gaming rig and 7 Ultimate 64 on my test computer and it is not worth the difference in cost

Once you have 64 bit OS you can upgrade your memory. Your MB looks like it will take up to 8GB in 4 slots

I would go with 4 sticks of DD2 800 (PC2 6400) at 2GB per stick 

Not sure of the price in Europe but here a stick of that is only $30

 

Next step will be to upgrade your video.

Nightmare's idea of a 460 is a good way to go. any of the GeForce GTX460 cards will work, but you will almost certainly have to upgrade your Power supply. 400W will not cut it. Go for around a 600-750W supply.

 

That would give you the most "bang for your buck" as they say here. Other improvements would be somewhat expensive and the improvements would not really be very good for the price.

For example, upgrading your processor. You have a 775 MB and it only supports Core 2 Quad/Core 2 duo/Dual Core (E2xxx) proccessors.

For example, about the highest you could go would be

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115060

Here it is around $250 but I really don't think you will see a lot of performance enhancement from that.

 

Definitely ditch Vista - it sucks and is a resource hog. 7 is far superior



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thing is its seems like a decent rig, but a bit old.

if u want better stuff, u'll need to change everything for newer technology.

 

the only way i see to get better perf for games with your rig, is like the others said, ur graphic card, and de facto ur power supply.

 

but the problem is that newer games depends a lot on the cpu, so getting a new graphic card may help u to play new games, but u may suffer some lag still.

 



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Chavez,

 

You received good advices...I would add only one little thing....Overclocking that Q6600 from 2.4GHz to 3.0GHZ by adding an aftermarket cooler....The Q6600 is KNOWN for overclocking to 3.0GHZ without much fuss....would you notice a difference in FPS in games? YES YES YES

 

so, Good quality Power supply 650Watts(80+bronze or better)+GTX460 1GB or better + S775-compatible CPU heatsink (to overclock a little)....



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I would get parts that you may be able to transfer to a new system...like the others said, maybe the power supply and vid card. I'd get a 650w-750w.  Look at the vid card you will get and then decide on how much power you need (the quad core uses a few extra watts).  Then maybe get both the PS and vid card.

 

That cpu overclock wouldn't cost much either (as long as that motherboard isn't a hassle).  I would google the model and overclocking or try and find reviews where people talk about it.  Make sure your next set up is 64 bit. 



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and btw, if u gona buy a new psu, dont hesitate to buy a good brand, corsair, thermaltake, ... it may cost more, but a quality psu is the base of a good rig



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Hi chavez,

 

the choice of the PSU is okay...I have been using Enermax most of the time but the Coolermaster one is fine

 

you dont say this much about the RAM but you cant be this wrong with Corsair RAM LOL

 

nothing to add to the graphics ....thats a good choice...

 

just the cooler is a bad choice imho...

the Zalman is not the best cooler you can buy for the money...

go for a Noctua NH-D14 or a Prolimatech Megahalems

 

http://www.bytesatwork.be/prolimatech-megahalems-rev-b.html

http://www.bytesatwork.be/noctua-nh-d14.html

http://www.bytesatwork.be/hardware/voedingen/corsair-cmpsu-750ax.html

http://www.bytesatwork.be/msi-n460gtx-hawk.html

 

you need 2 fans for the Megahalems ...we have a shop here in germany that sells bundles

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/CPU-Kuehler/Sockel-775-Intel/Prolimatech:::25_528_10325.html

 

hope you get this sorted ;)



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and btw, if u gona buy a new psu, dont hesitate to buy a good brand, corsair, thermaltake, ... it may cost more, but a quality psu is the base of a good rig

What CHKN said. You can get cheaper ones, but you get what you pay for and a cheap one can blow your system. Get at least a 750 watt model or better. 64 bit OS will let you use all of your memory, but don't get this unless you plan on upgrading to 4 or more Gb. nVidia 460 is a good video card at a great price, as is the new 550. 560's jump up in price from the previous two, so if budget is a factor...

 

As Merlin said, your platform is still great for current games, so no rush for a new rig just yet. Adding a better video card will make a world of difference, as will more memory. If you haven't overclocked before and are interested, do a pile of research before you jump into it. www.overclockers.com has great guides in their forums, as does www.overclock.net.  Overclocking is NOT something that you can jump in to and do quickly. Slow and easy wins the race there.



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totaly agree with nightmare,

i have that noctua here, best fan ever.

but all those kind of fans are HUGE, u have to be sure u can install those in your case

 

on the psu, personaly i wont go for coolermaster, it sounds a bit cheap in my mind, but maybe its just me.

i would go for an enermax (i had one, its nice quality, but after 4 years the fan start to make lot of noise, and im scared to clean a power supply), corsair, thermaltake (i use one now, its nice too, but i like the enermax better),.. but yea im not sure about coolermaster.

 

and for the graphic card, a 560 is a good choice, but i would buy EVGA (i do not want to mess with any other brand again -> for the best support, service, warranty u can get, evga all the way

i know for sure my next system gona have an evga board with evga graphic card. because if i have a problem, i just have to send them the unit and 5 days later i got a new one.



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Honestly, I don't like that coolermaster power supply...especially not for $150....you can get something a lot better for that price (and more powerful)...

 

For the overclocking  it appears that this motherboard is a OEM component, so your computer is a pre-built one...there is good chances that that board doesn't overclock...those boards are often BIOS-locked...

 

I did read somewhere that there MIGHT be a jumper on the motherboard that override the BIOS-LOCK...you will have to investigate that before considering overclocking....

 

You might want to browse the MSI forum and get somebody that KNOWS...

 

If that board fails at overclocking (if you cannot unlock the overclocking features of your motherboard) You might want to find a good second-hand 775 board + a GTX460 1GB instead of a GTX560ti...that way you could overclock your CPU...(trying to get the best of both world for the money....)

And make sure that before you buy a power supply, that it actually fit in your case...

 

when you attempt to upgrade a pre-built computer this is what you MIGHT encounter:

 

-Psu doesn't fit in case

-after market doesn't fit case

-motherboard doesn't OC...

-Case as poor airflow...

-graphics card is too long...



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great job .you will  love the improvements



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Only drawbacks you may have is with who made your PC , some Dell, HP, Gateway computers use proprietary parts such as certain Power supplies. What make and model do you have, or is it home built?



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My pc is a prebuilt pc , the motherboard is , just like you said,  probably with a locked bios. overclocking i can forget that .

The slot for the the video card is on a strange place, i think i can not place a proper videocard in that slot ,

now i have a 8600 gt but that's a very small card .

 It would be better to change the complete pc, new case , motherboard , psu, graphic card , ram etc.....

All i want is a homebuilt , no more prebuilt .

So there you go guys , make me a complete new and good system, my budget is maximum 2000 dollar (but a nice and cheaper system is good too ,lol.

2000 dollar is maybe a high price , but computerparts are more expensive here in belgium .

 

here you can see some pics from my (dusty) pc.

 

IMG_3595.JPG

 

IMG_3596.JPG

 

IMG_3597.JPG

 

IMG_3598.JPG

 

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chavez, just dont buy parts in belgium.

i dont

 

i buy in france and germany, its way cheaper, and u get more choices and better parts than in our country.

 



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For the price you are talking you could build a brand new computer yourself that would out perform what you are talking about doing.



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ok here we go...first try....

 

Intel Core i5-2500K                                                         175€
ASUS P8P67 Evo Rev 3.0, P67 (B3)                                   140€
G.Skill Sniper DIMM Kit 8GB PC3-12800U CL7-8-7-24         100€
Enermax MODU87+ ErP Lot 6 700W ATX 2.3                      160€
Cooler Master HAF922                                                      90€
Noctua NH-D14                                                                65€
MSI N460GTX Hawk, GeForce GTX 460, 1GB GDDR5           160€
Corsair Force Series 3 F120, 120GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s        150€   for OS
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1000GB, SATA II                              45€

1085€ or 1550USD

and a kick ass pc

maybe you can use your old DVD drive....not sure LOL but they are not this expensiveSmile

 

really curious about the other suggestions...

prices are from germany btw :)

 

maybe I missed something...but this was a quick shot



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NightmareXI

ok here we go...first try....

 

Intel Core i5-2500K                                                         175€

ASUS P8P67 Evo Rev 3.0, P67 (B3)                                   140€

G.Skill Sniper DIMM Kit 8GB PC3-12800U CL7-8-7-24         100€

Enermax MODU87+ ErP Lot 6 700W ATX 2.3                      160€

Cooler Master HAF922                                                      90€

Noctua NH-D14                                                                65€

MSI N460GTX Hawk, GeForce GTX 460, 1GB GDDR5           160€

Corsair Force Series 3 F120, 120GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s        150€   for OS

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1000GB, SATA II                              45€

1085€ or 1550USD

and a kick ass pc

maybe you can use your old DVD drive....not sure LOL but they are not this expensiveSmile

 

really curious about the other suggestions...

prices are from germany btw :)

 

maybe I missed something...but this was a quick shot

 

Just what I was saying Nightmare but you could do it even cheaper and still have a kick ass PC. 



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ok here we go...first try....

 

Intel Core i5-2500K                                                         175€

ASUS P8P67 Evo Rev 3.0, P67 (B3)                                   140€

G.Skill Sniper DIMM Kit 8GB PC3-12800U CL7-8-7-24         100€

Enermax MODU87+ ErP Lot 6 700W ATX 2.3                      160€

Cooler Master HAF922                                                      90€

Noctua NH-D14                                                                65€

MSI N460GTX Hawk, GeForce GTX 460, 1GB GDDR5           160€

Corsair Force Series 3 F120, 120GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s        150€   for OS

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1000GB, SATA II                              45€

1085€ or 1550USD

and a kick ass pc

maybe you can use your old DVD drive....not sure LOL but they are not this expensiveSmile

 

really curious about the other suggestions...

prices are from germany btw :)

 

maybe I missed something...but this was a quick shot

I have had some problems with that brand of power supply. I would spend the extra for a Corsair, or Coolmax. I feel that the back bone for your computer is the power supply. I always try to find the best there is. It also makes it so your able to add some power hungry video card or Two. If you get a modular one you only need to add as many wire as you need. This makes it so easy to tuck those wires to help keep your mother board and other parts cooler. For the money if I am not mistaking you should be able to build a kick ass PC. I say go big or go home.

Just an opinion and I am not cutting up that build NightmareXI



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NightmareXI

ok here we go...first try....

 

Intel Core i5-2500K                                                         175€

ASUS P8P67 Evo Rev 3.0, P67 (B3)                                   140€

G.Skill Sniper DIMM Kit 8GB PC3-12800U CL7-8-7-24         100€

Enermax MODU87+ ErP Lot 6 700W ATX 2.3                      160€

Cooler Master HAF922                                                      90€

Noctua NH-D14                                                                65€

MSI N460GTX Hawk, GeForce GTX 460, 1GB GDDR5           160€

Corsair Force Series 3 F120, 120GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s        150€   for OS

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1000GB, SATA II                              45€

1085€ or 1550USD

and a kick ass pc

maybe you can use your old DVD drive....not sure LOL but they are not this expensiveSmile

 

really curious about the other suggestions...

prices are from germany btw :)

 

maybe I missed something...but this was a quick shot

I have had some problems with that brand of power supply. I would spend the extra for a Corsair, or Coolmax. I feel that the back bone for your computer is the power supply. I always try to find the best there is. It also makes it so your able to add some power hungry video card or Two. If you get a modular one you only need to add as many wire as you need. This makes it so easy to tuck those wires to help keep your mother board and other parts cooler. For the money if I am not mistaking you should be able to build a kick ass PC. I say go big or go home.

Just an opinion and I am not cutting up that build NightmareXI

LOL WiZ no prob with your opinion...depends on personal experiences we all made for sure...

I have used Corsair and had one bad experience before....so I am using Enermax for ten years now and no probs at all..

same bad experience with be quiet and some others...

btw the Enermax is a modular one 

suggested the gtx 460 because its the best buy for the buck imho.....though I am an ATI guy...using two 6970 in CF Wink



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new os and some ram

and overclock try that out first

 



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if you need help overclocking let me no i feel good dealing with intel overclockings ive had lots help from known members that rock at it timings take time and patience and restarts overclocking baby


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