Dark Asylumn Posted June 11, 2012 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 10:56 PM Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Posted June 11, 2012 ok not that type of one percenter but still. ok I have a 05 f250 super duty 5.4 3valve triton. I replaced the plugs today now you mechanics know exactly what I am talkin about now dont ya anyhow i have 164000 miles on this engine and the plugs were original. yup thats right 164000 miles on high thread plugs. every mechanic AND part store clerks I found let me know that 99 percent of the time number 7 WILL break if you have 100000 on them, law of murphy at work. hardest one to get at. anyways if you break it you pretty much have to pull the head. guess what I got all eight out with NO break offs SO I'M A 1 PERCENTER LMAO hxtr and simplemod 2 Awards
little_old_man Posted June 11, 2012 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted June 11, 2012 I have an 05 Expedition with the same engine as yours with around 90,000 miles on it. I also have an 02 F150 with 140,000 miles with all the original parts and still running like a champ. The expedition has had one problem after another and it still needs a ton of work. Right now it has a vacume leak that causes the AC to shut down while accelerating a year after I paid $1,500 to replace an AC hose, ball and U- joints need replacing, I paid over $2,000 to fix the transfer case last year and it's having problems again, and it has a front wheel bearing going out. Sometime between 2002 and 2005 Ford decided to go from making one of the best trucks to pieces of shit. Oh and the Expedition cost $60,000 when I bought it new compared to $28,000 for the F150. I'm glad you've had great luck with your 250 but I doubt if I'll ever buy another Ford product. For the amount of money I've dumped into the Expedition I could have a couple classic trucks completely restored and with a new engine put in every few years, and I could actually work on them myself. I look under the hood of a newer vehicle and don't know what the hell I'm looking at. Awards
Dark Asylumn Posted June 11, 2012 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 10:56 PM Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Author Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) ok sounds like it is time for you to replace your plugs overdue in one. here is how to do it without breaking the plug. park your truck after 6-7 hours pull air cleaner, any thing else thats getting your way. pull the boot packs DO NOT try and loosen the plugs. instead pour seafoam into the spark tubes. fill them up and walk away. after 4-5 hours come back and crack loose the plugs no more than an 1/8th a turn. walk away let sit for minimum of 10 hours. after the time has passed go and remove them slowly. if you are having a hard time turning the wrench, tighten it back up and then try and loosen it again. you WILL hear poppin and screeching its normal, just dont put all your muscle into loosening it. if it still wont budge move on to the next plug and let that one sit another few hours. after you get all the plugs out turn the key and let the cylinders blow out the seafoam. get you some good hi temp ceramic anti seize and put a thin layer on the lower shield of the plug, do not get it on the tips with the electrodes, install your plugs and whatnot and then your ready to start your truck. it wont want to start and when it does it will blow white smoke out the exhaust like a fogger. thats the seafoam and carbon burning out. run it until the smoke is gone. you have now just became a 1 percenter like me lmao. oh this only applies to the 5.4l if you have the 4.6 then well youll blow a plug out driving down the road OR strip the threads while removing them, but you will not break them and this process does not need to be followed. take your time and youll see a marked improvement. Edited June 11, 2012 by Dark Asylumn Awards
GorillaXI Posted June 11, 2012 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.72 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Posted June 11, 2012 Congrats...I'm actually looking at trucks this week. Ford is what I am leaning towards. But the Ram is second on my list.
Dark Asylumn Posted June 11, 2012 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 10:56 PM Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Author Posted June 11, 2012 dodge is making the allison tranny available next year and rumor is that ford will have an optional CAT engine in 14. its also heard that roush is getting their hands on the superdutys in the next year or two. should be an interesting turn out Awards
BUDMAN Posted June 11, 2012 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7099 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4638 Achievement Points: 60376 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Posted June 11, 2012 ok not that type of one percenter but still. ok I have a 05 f250 super duty 5.4 3valve triton. I replaced the plugs today now you mechanics know exactly what I am talkin about now dont ya anyhow i have 164000 miles on this engine and the plugs were original. yup thats right 164000 miles on high thread plugs. every mechanic AND part store clerks I found let me know that 99 percent of the time number 7 WILL break if you have 100000 on them, law of murphy at work. hardest one to get at. anyways if you break it you pretty much have to pull the head. guess what I got all eight out with NO break offs SO I'M A 1 PERCENTER LMAO Yes this very common on ford's and they sell a special tool to remove those broken spark plugs with out removing cyl heads.Just a heads up !! Dark Asylumn 1 Awards
Damage_inc- Posted August 12, 2012 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Posted August 12, 2012 a good and careful mechanic can insert a new thread in that hole.gl Awards
Qball1 Posted August 12, 2012 Member ID: 3552 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 177 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 135 Achievement Points: 1509 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/16/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 26 Birthday: 05/03/1982 Device: Windows Posted August 12, 2012 dont buy ford gorilla, i have a 2004 chevy with the vortec 5.3, 177000 miles and it runs like a raped ape. at 75 mph 21 mpg. save your money and don't buy a ford. Awards
loaderXI Posted August 12, 2012 Member ID: 252 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 72 Topic Count: 396 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 6438 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 6581 Achievement Points: 54654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 32 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 27 Birthday: 03/22/1965 Device: Windows Posted August 12, 2012 Here is how I do the triton engines.....Actually I have done many of these and there is a tool to remove the broken ones but a little trick I do is run engine to operating temp then R&R 2 plugs then run again then R&R 2 more nd so on....The tool is about 150.00 ....Got mine off USA tool guy Awards
pwrcrzy52 Posted August 12, 2012 Member ID: 103 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 43 Topic Count: 698 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 3300 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 1604 Achievement Points: 25692 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 31, 2024 Birthday: 07/10/1952 Device: Windows Posted August 12, 2012 All the ford work trucks when we changed thr plugs at least 2+ broke . We bought the tool if they break off so when they break off you can get them out. No problems yet with the GM's Also ford has a problem with exhaust manifold gaskets and manifolds cracking. We have about ten fords inthe fleet and 3 GM's ,ffords seem to be the ones in the shop the most. Awards
hxtr Posted August 12, 2012 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted August 12, 2012 ok not that type of one percenter but still. ok I have a 05 f250 super duty 5.4 3valve triton. I replaced the plugs today now you mechanics know exactly what I am talkin about now dont ya anyhow i have 164000 miles on this engine and the plugs were original. yup thats right 164000 miles on high thread plugs. every mechanic AND part store clerks I found let me know that 99 percent of the time number 7 WILL break if you have 100000 on them, law of murphy at work. hardest one to get at. anyways if you break it you pretty much have to pull the head. guess what I got all eight out with NO break offs SO I'M A 1 PERCENTER LMAO hahahaha nice 1% er Dark Asylumn 1
Evil-Monkey Posted August 12, 2012 Member ID: 221 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1865 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 751 Achievement Points: 12313 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 06/10/1967 Device: iPhone Posted August 12, 2012 Congrats Dark .i have a 2003 F250 with 177,000 miles with 5,4L .when i bought(117,000 MIles.) it a month after the spark plugs were un-threading and working there way out .i took it to ford and for 4,300.00 they put re-designed heads on it have had no problems since(3yrs now)..i personally could drive anything but a ford the last 4 ford trucks i retired with more then 350.000 miles.Ford for a long time was having other people enginer the engines.put supposedly in 2012 Ford started enginering the own again. Awards
simplemod Posted August 12, 2012 Member ID: 623 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 21 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1072 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 417 Achievement Points: 7809 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/24/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 27, 2018 Birthday: 10/26/1982 Posted August 12, 2012 The way they do it at the dealership is to break them loose and spray carb cleaner down in the hole and let it set a few minutes. They seldom ever break one. And also I have a 2003 F150 Sport 4x4 with the 4.6 in it. It's low miles, still, but the reason I got it was the life expectancy for that engine is 400K plus. The farmers around here mostly have Fords, and the dealership I bought mine at, says that most of the 4.6L engines that come in the shop just need routine maintenance stuff like plugs and filters, and brakes and such, and many of them have 350K to 450K on them. One in particular is a 97 F150 with 700K on it and the guy wants to check price on new engine so when it quits he can put another in it. He says it still pulls perfectly fine, and nearly every mile on it was pulling a trailer as well. My Dad worked at the dealership I bought mine from and he was the one that checked price for the engine for that guy too. LOL.
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