Voting On Cod2 Dm Server

[Sgt Alvin York]

Yes bring on the Shotties!! How about a bash only and nade only maps!!

Edited November 10, 2012 by Sgt Alvin York

[Xtreme]

I guess I'm the exception, I like the small, crowded maps. They are exciting and filled with constant action. To me this is better than a bunch of people room camping and shooting me in the back as a run by. For as many people that complain about the small maps, there's a larger number that seem to vote for them.....so maybe I'm not the exception.

[Ruggerxi]

I received a pm from Bart and I have removed a couple maps that he gave me and I have added a shotgun only map for Blimp Cottage. Can some please verify for me that is says shotgun only after the map in the voting screen.

[little_old_man]

I received a pm from Bart and I have removed a couple maps that he gave me and I have added a shotgun only map for Blimp Cottage. Can some please verify for me that is says shotgun only after the map in the voting screen.

 

I'm not certain that it says shotgun only in the voting screen but the map itself appears to be working just fine with shotties.

 

Thanks Boss.

[Joe Canadian]

i like the new system on cod2. i think its a good change.

people wanted a change and we got a change. now stop complaining for a while and enjoy it.

number of players are up. there are a couple spawn raping maps but that's what happens when people don't know all the maps. we have to try them all and then make some changes.

people need to stop thinking of rugger as an "errand boy" who needs to fix every little problem and start saying "THANKS"!

if we start making a list of maps that aren't working and why then it will be easy to fix.

thanks rugger. keep up the good work!

 

Yes, the new vote system works, we just need to learn the name of the maps and make a few changes. We could add snow, cheesy and others. Thank you Rugger

[Joe Canadian]

instead of getting rid of those smaller maps we should just make a few of them "NADE ONLY"!

 

Shotties and nades Spanky or else they will all hide from you lol

[Joe Canadian]

I guess I'm the exception, I like the small, crowded maps. They are exciting and filled with constant action. To me this is better than a bunch of people room camping and shooting me in the back as a run by. For as many people that complain about the small maps, there's a larger number that seem to vote for them.....so maybe I'm not the exception.

 

I like small maps as well, why I don't like is people parked at the spawn points killing others, but I can honestly live with that.

[little_old_man]

Ok, I just spent the last hour going through all of the maps that aren't regulars maps we are all familiar with, and have compiled the following list by size and type.

 

One of the maps (Desert_Aim) is a duplicate of Toujane and should be removed since we already have it in the rotation.

 

Small Maps with little cover and easy spawn killing:

1. hyb_bunkers - small map easy spawn killing
   
2. Blimp_Egypt - small with some cover. Spawn killing not as bad on this one and a decent map
   
3. Destiny - this is a medium size with no cover
   
4. Frenzes - Large arena little to no cover
   
5. Gob_Arena - small map with cover but a really shitty map
   
6. Hawkeyeaim - small, rectangular spawn killers dream - great candidate for shotties or pistols only
   
7. jjs_aim - small arena easy spawn killing- great candidate for shotties or pistols only
   
8. killingzone - same as above - great candidate for shotties or pistols only
   
9. secretairfield - this is probably the worst spawn killing map we have. Would be much better with shotties or pistols
   
10. Street_Susux - small with 2 building on opposite sides of a mine field. More condusive to TDM
    
11. Volga - small map, little cover
    
12. Worldcup - small arena type. Lots of spawn killing if crowded
    
13. Xfirea - I didn't get to check this one out becuase of bad iwd files. Will look later
    

Larger Maps with lots of cover

1. mp_calvi - this map looks great! Can't wait to try it with a large group
   
2. carpen - large with many buildings
   
3. chelm - same
   
4. colditz - same
   
5. Dark_Forest_rain - large rectangular map with scattered trees for cover
   
6. Dark_Forest - same as above only in day light. Perhaps should be removed
   
7. Dead_End - Smaller map with lots of cover
   
8. dfg_crossfire - very large rectangular with buildings and trenches for cover
   
9. Downtown - old classic map that's always great
   
10. Draguignan - large with cover
    
11. Eisberg - large with some cover
    
12. Eraplace - smaller map with plenty of cover
    
13. Farm_Assault - Large/open with buildings
    
14. Flakbattery - large open fields with bushes/trenches and some building for cover
    
15. Freeman - huge map with many industrial buildings for cover
    
16. greenleas - Town map with buildings for cover
    
17. Harbor - always a great map that never gets old
    
18. Hf.d3 - very large shipyard map with many buildings
    
19. nijmegen - Smaller map with bridge over river and buildings on either side for cover
    
20. sdn.d3 - this is a good sniper map with building cover at both ends
    
21. street.d3 - medium sized map with many buildings
    
22. teleport square - large open map with teleports and no cover. Run & gun to the max
    
23. Walledin - looks very promising. Large with many buildings
    
24. Weihl - same as above
    
25. Canal_beta - Huge map with buldings and river. Good sniper map
    
26. Panzer_station - huge underground bunker with lots of cover
    

[Ruggerxi]

These are the maps that should be coming up on the voting screens, not all the maps that are on the server are available to vote for. I do not have the full names like you have listed here LOM but you can figure out some of them.

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "hyb_bunkers";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mario_castle";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_desert_aim";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_devils_den_beta";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_dfg_crossfire";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_frenzes";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_gob_arena";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_gob_rats";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_hawkeyeaim";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_jjs_aim";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_nijmegen_bridge";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_secretairfield_f1_1";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_street";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_walledin";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_xfirea";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_bridge";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_calvi";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_chelm";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_flakbatterie_v1_0";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_hellskeep_nightrain";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_powcamp";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mtl_bismarck";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_blimp_cottage";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_farm_assault";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_hf";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_tobruk";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mto_panzer_station_final";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "rocket";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_blimp_egypt";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_carpen";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_colditz";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_destiny";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_draguignan";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_eisberg_thawed";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_eraplace_reloaded";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_germanfarm";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_greleans2";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_olassault";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_sdn";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_teleport_square";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_tfl_winterplace";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_wiehl";

 

level.ex_maps[level.ex_maps.size-1].mapname = "mp_mto_canal_beta";

[little_old_man]

I was pulling the names off of HLSW and I'm sure not all of the names match. It's a start. Hopefully we can get some input from others who play the DM server.

Edited November 13, 2012 by little_old_man

[Joe Canadian]

Thank you Rugger and LOM for taking the time to make the server even better. We had a blast on Saturday night with Glove and Viperz "poking the bear" on Mr Pain. We were all laughing for at least an hour. I don't even remember what maps we played but it was pretty darn funny and that's exactly the point: Lets work on making the server fun and try to keep it that way.

 

Cheers

 

Joe

[MrCrowe]

Thank you Rugger and LOM for taking the time to make the server even better. We had a blast on Saturday night with Glove and Viperz "poking the bear" on Mr Pain. We were all laughing for at least an hour. I don't even remember what maps we played but it was pretty darn funny and that's exactly the point: Lets work on making the server fun and try to keep it that way.

 

Cheers

 

Joe

 

I second this Joe!

 

When the camper is away, the glove will play!

 

I laughed so hard when Pain said "You just made the worst mistake in your gaming career glove"

 

You don't wanna poke the bear!

[PimpedOutPete]

I do apprieciate Ruggers and Steve work for making changes. The only issue is these changes were extreme and more members and admins are complaining more than ever. In my history with this clan, 6 years as a member and 4 as an admin... I have never seen this much complaining ever.

 

Obviously it will take some time, trial and errors to improve this. Maybe in the future we should make subtle changes. We need to remember these servers are here for the enjoyment of all player types, campers to runners, nade freaks to hybrids.. If you dont enjoy a map, dont worry, in 20 mins it will move on to the next... Game on Guys..

[spanky]

10 nades per person will pretty much solve any problem...

...especially the "pete problem"!

[little_old_man]

10 nades per person will pretty much solve any problem...

...especially the "pete problem"!

 

If you want to make the whole experience especially miserable for Pete, make sure that they're flaming nades. He just loves them.

[Blackbart]

I must add in Pete's defense (oh god help me) That I too hear more complaining about the current set-up then I have ever heard before...There was a post made asking what maps everyone wanted removed and there was little if any response...Rugger and the Adm team are trying to make changes that everyone can live with and have fun...It's not easy and we need your feed back when these changes are made...If there are maps that need to be removed then say so and we will get it done... :)

[PimpedOutPete]

>I do apprieciate Ruggers and Steve work for making changes. The only issue is these changes were extreme >and more members and admins are complaining more than ever. In my history with this clan, 6 years as a >member and 4 as an admin... I have never seen this much complaining ever.

 

I have the greatest respect for everybody here, XI members, administrators, players and guests, but I've gotta say that I am disappointed with your comments. I think you should climb down from your pedestal and start listening to other XI members. The fact that you have been around for 6 years doesn't give you the right to strike down others ideas without offering your own ideas, suggestions or alternatives to those ideas. If people are complaining you should come forward and talk about those complains so they can be addressed.

 

>Obviously it will take some time, trial and errors to improve this. Maybe in the future we should make subtle >changes. We need to remember these servers are here for the enjoyment of all player types, campers to >runners, nade freaks to hybrids.. If you dont enjoy a map, dont worry, in 20 mins it will move on to the next... >Game on Guys.

 

The servers are great when they are populated, not when they are empty and that's the issue to be addressed imho. I am having a hard time understanding you here. You are telling us to wait for 20 minutes if we don't enjoy a map. Fair enough, I think we have all done that many times, but you don't do that yourself, and that's the part that gets to me.

 

The server was pretty busy last Monday and I assume you weren't having a good time because you were not winning. Not sure what happened but you started changing maps without asking any of the other players, who had voted for specific maps and were in fact playing for 2 or 3 minutes when you interrupted them. You did this not once, but twice, and were in the process of interrupting a third game in a row when I decided to leave. Some players asked you not to change the maps because they liked them, but you changed them regardless.

 

I think you should at least explain yourself and apologize. You are sending the wrong message to other xi who love this server and don't want it to die.

 

Thanks

 

Sorry guys, way to busy in my day to address this.. I will give it my full attention this evening.. Chat with you later.

[little_old_man]

 

The servers are great when they are populated, not when they are empty and that's the issue to be addressed imho. I am having a hard time understanding you here. You are telling us to wait for 20 minutes if we don't enjoy a map. Fair enough, I think we have all done that many times, but you don't do that yourself, and that's the part that gets to me.

 

The server was pretty busy last Monday and I assume you weren't having a good time because you were not winning. Not sure what happened but you started changing maps without asking any of the other players, who had voted for specific maps and were in fact playing for 2 or 3 minutes when you interrupted them. You did this not once, but twice, and were in the process of interrupting a third game in a row when I decided to leave. Some players asked you not to change the maps because they liked them, but you changed them regardless.

 

I think you should at least explain yourself and apologize. You are sending the wrong message to other xi who love this server and don't want it to die.

 

Thanks

 

Joe,

 

I realize that your biggest complaint is (or was) the fact that there were two maps that you and Glove didn't particularly like to play on, and you wanted the ability to vote on maps. Now it's been a couple weeks, and the two maps you guys didn't like have been removed from the rotation (this even though many other players enjoyed those maps), and we have the ability to vote and choose which map comes up next.

 

It may not look like much of a problem to you guys when you're playing in the evening and the servers are quiet, but during the day when the servers are running at near capacity, the map voting system is getting to be a pain in the ass. I was playing for a couple hours last Sunday and Toujane came up 5 times within an hour. I fought the urge to change the map and finally just left. About 90% of the time most of the players don't know what a map is based on the name on the voting list and just vote randomly. Others have favorites and vote for the same maps over and over again, while other players don't vote at all and will let a couple people decide what maps are played.

 

We have a large number of maps that are small with all weapons and nades. They quickly turn into a clusterfuck of spawn killing. Rugger changed the blimp cottage map to shotties (thanks Rugger) but it was actually one of the decent maps for all weapons and now it kind of sucks with shotties, and the other little maps are still all weapons. That wa_wa3 map seems to come up all of the time, and I win it with scores of 250+ more times than not simply by holding down my fire button and running around like a fucking idiot. Just because I win it doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see it removed or changed to shotties or pistols. It is a mindless piece of shit map that requires absolutely no skill. You don't have time to think or talk with other players, just run and gun and die. If Pete changed maps it was more than likely because one or more of those small maps were getting played a lot.

 

Rather than asking for aplogies, you might want to tone it down a notch and simply say thank you for putting up with this fucked up system we're dealing with at the moment (that you asked for) and doing our very best to improve for the majority of players as quickly as possible.

 

I agree with Pete and Bart. I'm also seeing more complaining and whining than I've ever seen before, and from people that don't normally complain about anything.

[Blackbart]

Very well said LOM...I for one have never liked the vote for maps set-up but this isn't about what I like it's about the membership as a whole...We have tried several different mods over the last year in an attempt to keep everyone happy and we have yet to succeed in that goal...I am the one that suggested to Rugger to make Blimp Cottage a shottie map because there was people wanting a shottie map and in the past that was always a favorite along with Wow Cheesy...There is a miriad of cluster fuck maps that no one likes and that is the reason imput was requested as what maps needed to be removed...It's easier for the membership to voice what maps need to be removed than it is for the Adm's to spend all their time trying to figure it out...We spend alot of time in the servers and the website keeping up with Clan business but we do have real lives too that needs attending...To call out an Adm and ask for an apology for making a truthful observation is uncalled for...We all have the best interest of >XI< and it's membership at heart so let's be civil and get this worked out... :)

[Ruggerxi]

Are people voting for Toujane? I don't think Toujane should be an option to vote for only custom maps. Toujane is the map the server starts on but after that as long as people are on the server voting Toujane should never come up.

 

Are stock maps there to vote on?

[little_old_man]

Toujane is actually in the rotation twice. Once under Desert_Aim then under the name Toujane. Not sure if Toujane is on the vote list but Desert_Aim definately is.

 

Frankly I'm not sure which maps are custom and which are stock. I know there are some very old (but great) maps on the voting list.

[PimpedOutPete]

>I do apprieciate Ruggers and Steve work for making changes. The only issue is these changes were extreme >and more members and admins are complaining more than ever. In my history with this clan, 6 years as a >member and 4 as an admin... I have never seen this much complaining ever.

 

I have the greatest respect for everybody here, XI members, administrators, players and guests, but I've gotta say that I am disappointed with your comments. I think you should climb down from your pedestal and start listening to other XI members. The fact that you have been around for 6 years doesn't give you the right to strike down others ideas without offering your own ideas, suggestions or alternatives to those ideas. If people are complaining you should come forward and talk about those complains so they can be addressed.

 

>Obviously it will take some time, trial and errors to improve this. Maybe in the future we should make subtle >changes. We need to remember these servers are here for the enjoyment of all player types, campers to >runners, nade freaks to hybrids.. If you dont enjoy a map, dont worry, in 20 mins it will move on to the next... >Game on Guys.

 

The servers are great when they are populated, not when they are empty and that's the issue to be addressed imho. I am having a hard time understanding you here. You are telling us to wait for 20 minutes if we don't enjoy a map. Fair enough, I think we have all done that many times, but you don't do that yourself, and that's the part that gets to me.

 

The server was pretty busy last Monday and I assume you weren't having a good time because you were not winning. Not sure what happened but you started changing maps without asking any of the other players, who had voted for specific maps and were in fact playing for 2 or 3 minutes when you interrupted them. You did this not once, but twice, and were in the process of interrupting a third game in a row when I decided to leave. Some players asked you not to change the maps because they liked them, but you changed them regardless.

 

I think you should at least explain yourself and apologize. You are sending the wrong message to other xi who love this server and don't want it to die.

 

Thanks

 

Sorry it took me so long to address this, darn employment gets in the way of my real job here.

 

Joe, I apprieciate your concerns just as much as any member of our group. You, along many other are the reason why these servers are so popular in the gaming community. If there was any confusion about my previous post, let me clarify it for you. First of all, my post was a general statement and not directed to anyone inparticular. if you choose to get upset, thats your responsibilty. I have learned that jumpng to conclusions only leads to misery.

 

As I stated, We try our best to accommodate all types of players, everyone from campers to runners, to hybrids and nade fans. Some maps are fan favorites while others are not so popular. Every few months we introduce a few new maps, return a stock map or try something completely new. Sometimes they are a success, sometimes not so much. These changes are meant to be subtle. Unfortunately, this change was not so subtle and many of the maps needed to be replaced or tweeked. Complaints about one map is ok, complaints on map after map is not ok. But, it was a lession learned and no foul.

 

Now for your concern. Listening to multiple players openly upset at the spawnfest from one map to the next is very disconcerning to me. If the majoritty ask for this end, i will accommodate them. The incident inquestion you mentioned was both myself and Logan (Adm) changing the map. I changed it and then Logan inadvertainly changed it again. A simple error thats all.

 

Im a humble person Joe, and Im open to any suggestions and critisism. I am more than willing to listen and my xfire is open to anyone who needs help or has a concern.... What Im not open to is being openly ridiculed over a misunderstanding infront of my peers and friends. Your points are valid, your methods are not. Next time, please PM me. I guarantee you will have a sympathetic ear.

 

As Bart and Oldman stated. We are all doing our best, gamers to admins... Thx Guys

 

Regards,

 

Pete (Ter)

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Toujane is actually in the rotation twice. Once under Desert_Aim then under the name Toujane. Not sure if Toujane is on the vote list but Desert_Aim definately is.

 

Frankly I'm not sure which maps are custom and which are stock. I know there are some very old (but great) maps on the voting list.

 

 

When I was in tonight the map Toujane was not an option to vote for. However I have seen the map played before and now I understand why. Thanks LOM

[PimpedOutPete]

Viper (Rene) and a few others asked me if we can add one more shootie and one pistol map. Considering how many maps we have on the rotation, I think its a vald request. What do you think guys?.

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Viper (Rene) and a few others asked me if we can add one more shootie and one pistol map. Considering how many maps we have on the rotation, I think its a vald request. What do you think guys?.

 

I agree. I think that there is some room for his request. Just me responding. As Pete said what do you guys think.