hxtr Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted January 11, 2013 I got a question. Has anyone heard that the AR 15 use for that Connecticut shooting was a lie? It was found in the suspects car rather used in the crime. He had 4 pistols instead. So expect to see the following via an Executive Order. Assault Rifles to be banned and Magazine limitation. Stricter regulations on purchases of guns and gun show loopholes. Mental Health checks... (disqualifies me instantly) All this when pistols were only used. Expect other Executive orders as this violence we see today will not go away. Why lies? I wonder why? No intentions of this being political.... just stating facts. simplemod, QueenCobra and Hemps 3
little_old_man Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) It's difficult to separate fact from fiction, and regardless of whether the AR15 was found in his car or in the school, he did have one with him the day of the shooting, and if he left it in the car we can consider ourselves lucky he didn't take it. Had he actually used it in the school I would think that the death toll would have been much higher. They've said that there were more than 90 rounds fired and that would have required a few re-loads, even with 4 handguns equipped with standard sized magazines. For what it's worth, I don't blame guns and the ease of obtaining guns on this shooting, I blame the mother who felt that teaching her mentally unstable son to shoot would boost his self-esteem, and I blame her for not securing her weapons so he couldn't get to them. Even if he had only a single handgun with an 8 round clip, he could have killed the same number of people if he was taught how to quickly re-load and carried several mags with him. This is the NBC news report that came out shortly after the shooting stating that the AR15 was found in the car and not in the school. The official story seems to have changed since then, probably since it didn't fit in with the story they wanted the world the hear about the evils of private citizens owning "assault" weapons. Edited January 11, 2013 by little_old_man loaderXI, hxtr, eidolonFIRE and 1 other 4 Awards
DEEJAYKEG Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 1238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.10 Reputation: 4985 Achievement Points: 50728 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11, 2024 Posted January 11, 2013 Is there going to be a formal inquest conducted at which all facts will be presented? I don't know how the system works in the USA. In the meantime, I'd be very wary of accepting rumour and tittle-tattle as fact. If you present an assertion that lies have been told, you ought to identify the source. The BBC analysis of how this tragedy unfolded reports: "He was carrying an assault rifle, thought to have been a Bushmaster AR-15-style rifle, a civilian version of the military's M-16", and that a fourth weapon - a shotgun - was found in a car. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20738998 I've said it before and I'll say it again. Discussion of gun control here and elsewhere is futile. The genie is out of the bottle, for better or for worse. Awards
hxtr Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted January 11, 2013 yea i know Deejay this post wont last last but want to see if anyone knew that before it does go to political forum. And they can do a congressional investigation but that wont happen on this case. It will not be brought up again regarding if he did or if he didn't. The FBI had to be involved and if the truth still is not public... doubt it ever will. I agree with you LOM. I dont blame the guns either with a but. I have heard people say they can bring a knife, sward or other non firearm weapons and do the same crime. But most that go do such a heinous crime save at least one bullet for themselves. I would not be a big fan trying to take my own life with a knife or a sward if you know what I mean. The regulations no doubt will happen... i do like the idea of mental background checks. If I have documentation of being depressed and other and I do... I would not want me to have a gun nor you if you have problems as well. Better safety for the community and oneself. Sure lots of common sense measures can be taken but to me the common sense needs to be more with the persons that own guns. If my mental ill kid got my gun and kill anyone... i should be held to some blame no matter what age my kid is. Keep guns out of mentally ill people's hands will save lives. This mother did a poor job protecting others and encouraged it with her collection. Hemps and loaderXI 2
loaderXI Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 252 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 72 Topic Count: 396 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 6439 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 6582 Achievement Points: 54661 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 32 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 02:08 AM Birthday: 03/22/1965 Device: Windows Posted January 11, 2013 1st reports were of AR15 found in trunk of car....Which now will be spoken to each reporting story to meet there needs in the press.... Here is a fact 2 airplanes hit the world trade centers 1 hit the Pentagon and 1 went down in a field in Pennsylvania all mentioned killed thousands wounded many many more and no ban suggested on this type of plane Awards
BurnnBright Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 22339 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 168 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1722 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 685 Achievement Points: 13018 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 01/13/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 7 Birthday: 03/20/1972 Device: Windows Posted January 11, 2013 We will probably never know what actually did or did not happen. There are so many conflicting reports and YouTube is FULL of videos showing HUGE inconsistencies. These days, I am avoiding news about pretty much anything. We've been lied to so many times about virtually everything. I don't know what to believe anymore. KaptCrunch and eidolonFIRE 2 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Posted January 11, 2013 We will probably never know what actually did or did not happen. There are so many conflicting reports and YouTube is FULL of videos showing HUGE inconsistencies. These days, I am avoiding news about pretty much anything. We've been lied to so many times about virtually everything. I don't know what to believe anymore. It's the media... It's a business trade... They do what makes them the most money (which is tell you what they think will make the biggest best news) hxtr 1
Dark Asylumn Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 809 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 41 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2840 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1032 Achievement Points: 20424 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/29/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 5 hours ago Birthday: 06/25/1979 Device: Windows Posted January 11, 2013 a rifle is only a rifle its only an assault rifle if it, you guessed it, assaults someone. so in fact there are assault rifles, assault shotguns, assault pistols and so on. now the kicker. they are going to go after "military style" rifles do you know what "military style" means. basically a rifle that looks SCARY they sure are vague in their descriptions huh eidolonFIRE 1 Awards
HarryWeezer Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 20166 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 611 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 7655 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 7232 Achievement Points: 53682 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 36 Joined: 10/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 22 hours ago Birthday: 10/16/1946 Device: Windows Posted January 11, 2013 All 26 victims were hit multiple times by rounds from a .223-caliber Bushmaster. Awards
TheLastColdBeer Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 489 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 52 Topic Count: 553 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 4745 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 6058 Achievement Points: 42053 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 18 Joined: 09/22/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 23, 2024 Birthday: 01/09/1963 Device: Android Posted January 11, 2013 I read the same thing after the incident hxtr. Handguns were used in the school, but a Bushmaster AR was found in his parked car. hxtr 1 Awards
SpitFire Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 2345 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 81 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 27 Achievement Points: 590 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/28/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 20, 2024 Birthday: 11/26/1988 Device: Windows Posted January 11, 2013 you people have your shootings. we Norwegians had a mass shooting in 2011 http://en.wikipedia...._Norway_attacks he used a mini 14 in 223 Awards
hxtr Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted January 11, 2013 a rifle is only a rifle its only an assault rifle if it, you guessed it, assaults someone. so in fact there are assault rifles, assault shotguns, assault pistols and so on. now the kicker. they are going to go after "military style" rifles do you know what "military style" means. basically a rifle that looks SCARY they sure are vague in their descriptions huh to me it is not about what kind of gun it is as much who owns them or who can get access to them. As for airplains mentioned above. I have never even come close to having access to an airplane but I have had many times access to a fire arm. When someone is suicidal and ready to take other people out... it is more than just suicide. He planned this event so he knew he could get the weapons. Law binding stable citizenship should have the right to possess a fire arm. I love that we have concealed weapons license here in Texas. You dont know who has a weapon and it has saved lives many many times. I do know where all the gun owners are in Texas but I have a good dea. lol
hxtr Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted January 11, 2013 All 26 victims were hit multiple times by rounds from a .223-caliber Bushmaster. Sorry Harry you are wrong again. 4 hand guns were used to kill these poor little kids and teachers. I read the same thing after the incident hxtr. Handguns were used in the school, but a Bushmaster AR was found in his parked car. I was having breakfast with the ex police chief of Cibolo and others a few days ago. He was watching the events as they happened that day. He seen the police on TV pull the AR 15 out of his trunk. So unless he had 2... it was never used. Then again he might of ran back to his car and put it back. lol
hxtr Posted January 11, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted January 11, 2013 you people have your shootings. we Norwegians had a mass shooting in 2011 http://en.wikipedia...._Norway_attacks he used a mini 14 in 223 wow 77 dead. At least they called it right calling them terrorists. Very sad. Norway attacks were two sequential lone wolf terrorist attacks
KaptCrunch Posted January 12, 2013 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 317 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4904 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 4090 Achievement Points: 39644 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted January 12, 2013 a rifle is only a rifle its only an assault rifle if it, you guessed it, assaults someone. so in fact there are assault rifles, assault shotguns, assault pistols and so on. now the kicker. they are going to go after "military style" rifles do you know what "military style" means. basically a rifle that looks SCARY they sure are vague in their descriptions huh to me it is not about what kind of gun it is as much who owns them or who can get access to them. As for airplains mentioned above. I have never even come close to having access to an airplane but I have had many times access to a fire arm. When someone is suicidal and ready to take other people out... it is more than just suicide. He planned this event so he knew he could get the weapons. Law binding stable citizenship should have the right to possess a fire arm. I love that we have concealed weapons license here in Texas. You dont know who has a weapon and it has saved lives many many times. I do know where all the gun owners are in Texas but I have a good dea. lol a rifle is only a rifle its only an assault rifle if it, you guessed it, assaults someone. so in fact there are assault rifles, assault shotguns, assault pistols and so on. now the kicker. they are going to go after "military style" rifles do you know what "military style" means. basically a rifle that looks SCARY they sure are vague in their descriptions huh to me it is not about what kind of gun it is as much who owns them or who can get access to them. As for airplains mentioned above. I have never even come close to having access to an airplane but I have had many times access to a fire arm. When someone is suicidal and ready to take other people out... it is more than just suicide. He planned this event so he knew he could get the weapons. Law binding stable citizenship should have the right to possess a fire arm. I love that we have concealed weapons license here in Texas. You dont know who has a weapon and it has saved lives many many times. I do know where all the gun owners are in Texas but I have a good dea. lol HXTr strange why the fema camps are popping up in texas, marshal law is coming to town they are coming for your guns all this gun BS media is the attack of second amendment. same with staged (9/11) terrorist act is protecting who ? not public interest just Bilderbergents, for ones in power are afraid of losing it and are disarming the people to keep you in bondage to them Awards
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