Mekketom Posted November 4, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: iPhone Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) whoop whoop. Dj.. try being a squad leader. and use your squad to get points etc.. like said above.. its not all about the kills. i had 3 kills and alot of deaths. but the noob (me) still on top cause my squad followed orders...i healed them witch gives more points.. refill their ammo. everything counts. i struggle too.. but we are noobes on it.. and practice makes wonders... btw.. ty for your tags! im out. Edited November 4, 2014 by Mekketom Sonovabich, JohnnyDos, Fir3Marshal and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted November 4, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) If you type rank in game Mot, it will tell you how many players have played on that server, i think it is in the 1000's so don't beat yourself up so much, i had many days in BF3 like you experience here but i was the same as you i only dipped in and out of BF3 because of Cod4 Duties etc, but now i play BF4 probably 80% of my gaming time, with the rest of my time spent in Red Orchestra Total War and War Thunder, now i think i am a decent BF4 player...not good just decent, there are many players who play regularly with us that kicks my arse, like others have said in this post it's just not about kills, many times i can finish top of my team but have a minus KDR, i do like to try to get a plus KDR but sometimes you just gotta take it, the long time players do know the maps very well and know the best positions to take up or where to go to, you probably need to play some bigger Conquest maps, i know you liked the flying stuff last week, sometimes it's hard for us to play the bigger maps because of either not enough people in the server or no Conquest maps appearing in the voting options, there is another thing we all like to talk in our server and i know for a fact (especially in games like War Thunder) if i talk i don't play as well when i don't talk i often top score in War Thunder, i know if i didn't talk in BF4 and just concentrated i would be better but it wouldn't be the same server if we were all quiet lol.....Also i checked my Cod5 stats and they are better than BF4 stats too lol. Edited November 4, 2014 by Sonovabich EDD THE DUCK and djMot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob001 Posted November 4, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Share Posted November 4, 2014 @OddJob001 I like bor's sniper chick better. I will agree with this statement. Damit1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILESHIGH Posted November 4, 2014 Member ID: 20780 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 91 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 34 Achievement Points: 536 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 9, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Maybe try out a smaller map Dj. Like Metro and Locker, they are more linear and you rank up faster because the action is so up close and personal. On the larger maps you'll spend half your time trying to reach a flag to only end up being shot halfway there and they are so large it's not hard to get lost (in a sense). But stick with it, it's like golf, you play 18 holes and think why the hell I am out here until you hit that one shot and it brings all that excitement back. Below is what i was mentioning before, I came in 2nd on my team with only 4 kills but I had 42 revives and I not sure how many heals, but it doesn't always have to be about the kills. Edited November 4, 2014 by MILESHIGH djMot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonovabich Posted November 4, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) He does play the smaller maps, we don't get many big maps in US Hardcore, even the conquest maps are small, we mostly play Domination maps, it's not about ranking up, you can only go so far before you have just about every weapon and every accessory. Edited November 4, 2014 by Sonovabich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILESHIGH Posted November 4, 2014 Member ID: 20780 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 91 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 34 Achievement Points: 536 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 9, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2014 He does play the smaller maps, we don't get many big maps in US Hardcore, even the conquest maps are small, we mostly play Domination maps, it's not about ranking up, you can only go so far before you have just about every weapon and every accessory. Ahh I see his response to Oneil now, i must have missed it. Well there's the problem right there, you got to get out of hardcore for now. Oneill, OddJob001 and The Flush 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonovabich Posted November 4, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) He did ok today, he just had a bad day yesterday, like we all do from time to time, Hardcore is not the problem. Edited November 4, 2014 by Sonovabich JohnnyDos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILESHIGH Posted November 4, 2014 Member ID: 20780 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 91 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 34 Achievement Points: 536 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 9, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2014 He did ok today, he just had a bad day yesterday, like we all do from time to time, Hardcore is not the problem. Well I am not debating which is better, but he clearing is/was struggling with his performance which is possibly driving him to not wanting to play; prompting the thread here, which may or may not constitute the possibility of him trying a different avenue, i.e. Non-hardcore which may or may not make for a more enjoyable experience especially to someone just beginning his adventure into BF4. OddJob001 and Fir3Marshal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneill Posted November 4, 2014 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I played with him some yesterday and it seemed to me he was having trouble hitting moving targets. Hit markers and 3d spotting will definitely help him with that, since every gun has a different bullet velocity, you need to learn how far you should lead with each. The Flush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneill Posted November 5, 2014 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Share Posted November 5, 2014 @@djMot make sure you set bf4 to the same sensitivity your used to in COD. Here is a nifty little tool that can help with that. http://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/ djMot and mouselad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flush Posted November 5, 2014 Member ID: 1106 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 33 Topic Count: 125 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 832 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 538 Achievement Points: 6778 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 06/24/1975 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Also, make sure to open battlepacks and put boosts on the second you get them...that's a huge part of ranking up, unlocking weapons and accessories, etc. I would also suggest playing softcore a bit more as the hit reg will be closer to COD and you won't die as easily. Once you get comfortable with gameplay, etc. then you will be able to go on any server. I don't have COD4 installed any longer but have always wondered what it would be like to go back and play again...my guess is that with all of the headshot and better aiming needed in BF, I'd be accused of hacking pretty quickly but I guess you never know. Anyone try playing COD4 to see what it's like after playing BF for so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djMot Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 3189 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 93 Topic Count: 355 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 5234 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 11106 Achievement Points: 48752 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 112 Joined: 02/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 12/24/1957 Device: Windows Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Thanks to everyone for the encouragement. I won't walk away from the game. I'll just do my best to improve. MILESHIGH, Fir3Marshal, Sonovabich and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Also, make sure to open battlepacks and put boosts on the second you get them...that's a huge part of ranking up, unlocking weapons and accessories, etc. I would also suggest playing softcore a bit more as the hit reg will be closer to COD and you won't die as easily. Once you get comfortable with gameplay, etc. then you will be able to go on any server. I don't have COD4 installed any longer but have always wondered what it would be like to go back and play again...my guess is that with all of the headshot and better aiming needed in BF, I'd be accused of hacking pretty quickly but I guess you never know. Anyone try playing COD4 to see what it's like after playing BF for so long? I can tell you what it is like to go and play Cod5 after i play BF4, it would take me about 2 or 3 maps to get used to different speed (you run much faster in Cod5, not realistic) i would keep running into walls and debris, but after that i played normally, my Cod5 stats are better then my BF4 stats, in Gametracker at least. The Battlepack thing is one of the things Mot has trouble with, i think he did say in his original post and i know from playing with him in game, he says he never gets any boosts in his Battlepacks, whereas the rest of us usually get at least a 25%, he also had a problem when he first started playing where he never had any DMR's to choose from, i am sure we all get at least 1 weapon of every class when we start the game, he had this problem for a few weeks we were all telling him to try a DMR but he never had any to choose from, just another strange thing to happen in this game. Sorry but it makes me laugh when the only solution some can come up with is come and play Softcore, why would that be easier to kill someone when it takes approx double the bullets to put someone down, also he told us yesterday he played softcore and he still struggled. Edited November 6, 2014 by Sonovabich djMot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneill Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I can tell you what it is like to go and play Cod5 after i play BF4, it would take me about 2 or 3 maps to get used to different speed (you run much faster in Cod5, not realistic) i would keep running into walls and debris, but after that i played normally, my Cod5 stats are better then my BF4 stats, in Gametracker at least. The Battlepack thing is one of the things Mot has trouble with, i think he did say in his original post and i know from playing with him in game, he says he never gets any boosts in his Battlepacks, whereas the rest of us usually get at least a 25%, he also had a problem when he first started playing where he never had any DMR's to choose from, i am sure we all get at least 1 weapon of every class when we start the game, he had this problem for a few weeks we were all telling him to try a DMR but he never had any to choose from, just another strange thing to happen in this game. Sorry but it makes me laugh when the only solution some can come up with is come and play Softcore, why would that be easier to kill someone when it takes approx double the bullets to put someone down, also he told us yesterday he played softcore and he still struggled. Contrary to popular belief, DMR's, Carbines, and Shotguns are not class locked and therefore must be unlocked through an achievement, usually playing with a certain class long enough. I believe it is DMR- use sniper rifles carbine- engineer class shotguns- support class Also I never said it was easier to kill someone in normal, in fact it is harder, which also means he should live slightly longer. normal does in fact help with learning your weapons base spread, bullet speed, and range with the help of hit markers. Without hit markers I would never know how far I need to lead with each weapon or how long I can go full auto without destroying my accuracy through bullet spread, or whether I can effectively hip fire with a certain weapon at a certain range, or even determine what a weapons effective range is through bullet drop and spread. To summarize without hit markers I would never have learned how to consistently get 20+% accuracy with an m240b. Once you learn the gun you can go into any server and be accurate with it, hit markers or not. I am not really arguing HC vs normal, instead I am arguing hit markers and 3dspotting to learn vs no hit markers and 3dspotting. Edited November 6, 2014 by Oneill Fir3Marshal, MILESHIGH, The Flush and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonovabich Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.94 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 9 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Looks like you softcore players need every advantage to register the odd kill, thanks for clarifying that. Edited November 6, 2014 by Sonovabich JohnnyDos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILESHIGH Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 20780 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 91 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 34 Achievement Points: 536 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 9, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Contrary to popular belief, DMR's, Carbines, and Shotguns are not class locked and therefore must be unlocked through an achievement, usually playing with a certain class long enough. I believe it is DMR- use sniper rifles carbine- engineer class shotguns- support class Also I never said it was easier to kill someone in normal, in fact it is harder, which also means he should live slightly longer. normal does in fact help with learning your weapons base spread, bullet speed, and range with the help of hit markers. Without hit markers I would never know how far I need to lead with each weapon or how long I can go full auto without destroying my accuracy through bullet spread, or whether I can effectively hip fire with a certain weapon at a certain range, or even determine what a weapons effective range is through bullet drop and spread. To summarize without hit markers I would never have learned how to consistently get 20+% accuracy with an m240b. Once you learn the gun you can go into any server and be accurate with it, hit markers or not. I am not really arguing HC vs normal, instead I am arguing hit markers and 3dspotting to learn vs no hit markers and 3dspotting. I agree with you. The options on Normal mode do help out and do teach you some of the basic mechanics of the game. Edited November 6, 2014 by MILESHIGH Oneill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fir3Marshal Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 20789 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 936 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 325 Achievement Points: 7004 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2014 Birthday: 04/18/1981 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Looks like you softcore players need every advantage to register the odd kill, thanks for clarifying that. Do you ever have anything to say that is not negative? This entire thread is to help DJ Edited November 6, 2014 by Fir3Marshal The Flush, MILESHIGH, OddJob001 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJob001 Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Looks like you softcore players need every advantage to register the odd kill, thanks for clarifying that. just like you hardcore players need every advantage to camp and not get into a firefight you can't win. The Flush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flush Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 1106 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 33 Topic Count: 125 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 832 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 538 Achievement Points: 6778 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 06/24/1975 Share Posted November 6, 2014 LOL, Sob is just funny. Wouldn't you be pissed if we all came to the hardcore server and kicked your ass. Then what would your excuse be? mouselad, Fir3Marshal and OddJob001 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouselad Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted November 6, 2014 LOL, Sob is just funny. Wouldn't you be pissed if we all came to the hardcore server and kicked your ass. Then what would your excuse be? I actually usually do better on hardcore than normal mode even though I play wayyy more normal mode. OddJob001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flush Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 1106 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 33 Topic Count: 125 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 832 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 538 Achievement Points: 6778 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 06/24/1975 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Yup, just went in and went 14-8 coming in very late in a map on hardcore. One shot, one kill is a lot easier to get kills with but you die easier too. Any decent BF4 player should have relatively the same scores on hardcore or softcore, strategy just changes. Of course, some people just want to whine about the other game type because they can't play it. Edited November 6, 2014 by The Flush Fir3Marshal, OddJob001 and Barron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneill Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Share Posted November 6, 2014 The havok the PKP Brothers would wreak on the HC server would be immeasurable. There would be absolutely nothing left, dead sobs everywhere! The Flush, OddJob001 and mouselad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barron Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 20987 Group: +++ Insurgency Head Admin Followers: 21 Topic Count: 190 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1794 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1775 Achievement Points: 14304 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/21/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12 Birthday: 01/09/1996 Device: Windows Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Here we go again with arguments between hardcore and softcore game modes. I enjoy both game modes but can I just clarify...who won the scrim between the US softcore players and the EU hardcore?..... EU players beat the US players in both the US softcore and EU hardcore servers. O'Neill theres no point saying you would wreck the US hardcore server with your PKP . The US Hardcore is only a 24 man server so it wouldnt be as difficult to do with so little players. Come on the EU hardcore one of the days when its full and see can "wreck" the EU server with 50 players in it....I would highly doubt it Edited November 6, 2014 by Barron3000 Sonovabich and JohnnyDos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Fir3Marshal Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 20789 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 936 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 325 Achievement Points: 7004 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2014 Birthday: 04/18/1981 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Here we go again with arguments between hardcore and softcore game modes. I enjoy both game modes but can I just clarify...who won the scrim between the US softcore players and the EU hardcore?..... EU players beat the US players in both the US softcore and EU hardcore servers. O'Neill theres no point saying you would wreck the US hardcore server with your PKP . The US Hardcore is only a 24 man server so it wouldnt be that difficult to do with so little players. Come on the EU hardcore one of the days when its full and see can "wreck" the EU server with 50 players in it....I would highly doubt it Yeah, this is why we can't have nice things..... Barron is right, no more trolling this thread guys...... Besides, pants are OP. From now on, PANTS = PERMABAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouselad Posted November 6, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) The havok the PKP Brothers would wreak on the HC server would be immeasurable. There would be absolutely nothing left, dead sobs everywhere! @Oneill I think that would go a little something like this... http://youtu.be/1a0L3Z1A-RM?t=14s Edited November 6, 2014 by mouselad Fir3Marshal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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