hxtr Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 greywolf2 hxtr I showed you mine--- now show me yours........ I am not posting a picture of my penis.. hahaha jk Why not i know someone here wants to see it hahahaha dont talk about killroy like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malificent Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 38 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1255 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 7228 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 11/06/1971 Share Posted February 12, 2011 greywolf2 hxtr I showed you mine--- now show me yours........ I am not posting a picture of my penis.. hahaha jk Why not i know someone here wants to see it And who is that? I think this is a personal attack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greywolf2 Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 35 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 44 Topic Count: 345 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4812 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 420 Achievement Points: 28063 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Malificent greywolf2 hxtr I showed you mine--- now show me yours........ I am not posting a picture of my penis.. hahaha jk Why not i know someone here wants to see it And who is that? I think this is a personal attack... against who? I did not direct this towards anyone. I posted this so it was not a attack Ok for me it is about proof. As i am a streaming admin at pbbans i get to see a few more things than others....... First off i see the normal stuff The banned guid and the pbbans violation. Then beyond that is where i see more......... I first see that the IP that was using the game at the time it was banned was From the Netherlands. Ok after that i see all the aliases used by the person running the game Then i can see the IP's that are used by the owner of the game. Now here comes the last part The IP used when the game was banned is the same exact IP used by Credit here on the forums....... I am not accusing Credit of cheating..... But most of you hear do not want to listen to proof........ I showed you mine--- now show me yours........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malificent Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 38 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1255 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 7228 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 11/06/1971 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Still waiting for answers to my questions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-RayXI Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 133 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 77 Topic Count: 602 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6889 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 1371 Achievement Points: 44114 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 22 hours ago Birthday: 12/12/1971 Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Malificent Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 38 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1255 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 7228 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 11/06/1971 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Afraid? Don't answer me cuz YOU THINK Killroy is "my puppet master".... I am asking for ME and ME alone...I deserve a respected response.... Greywolf said he'd get me a pm in a "few"...so now I am just not respected enough to get my answers? I get it...weed them out...get the ones with the $$$$ Make this a site that'll be TAXED soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 1786 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1062 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 729 Achievement Points: 7865 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 28, 2023 Birthday: 07/21/1985 Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 X-RayXI +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 xray posted the wrong picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-RayXI Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 133 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 77 Topic Count: 602 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6889 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 1371 Achievement Points: 44114 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 22 hours ago Birthday: 12/12/1971 Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 Oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
greywolf2 Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 35 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 44 Topic Count: 345 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4812 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 420 Achievement Points: 28063 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Malificent Afraid? Don't answer me cuz YOU THINK Killroy is "my puppet master".... I am asking for ME and ME alone...I deserve a respected response.... Greywolf said he'd get me a pm in a "few"...so now I am just not respected enough to get my answers? I get it...weed them out...get the ones with the $$$$ Make this a site that'll be TAXED soon! Well sorry for the delay... Had 15 + pms as well as wife yelling dinner. So i sent them. But drama continues...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormCrow Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 480 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 72 Topic Count: 251 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2647 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 4846 Achievement Points: 45899 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 30 Joined: 09/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 17 hours ago Birthday: 03/11/1975 Device: Android Share Posted February 12, 2011 Whys Grey getting chewed up here???? Did he right the damn program????? He is being fair and honest across the board to everyone, XI or NOT.... what more can we ask for??? No matter what happens its never going to please everyone, Stream PB and people get kicked, dont stream PB and people complain cause we get hackers. Give grey a freaking break here people, he has been answering umpteen million PM's tonight i bet, and i have seen him type MANY times, PM me with questions........ seems to me HE is trying to keep the shit off the boards. Grey, water off the back bro, you are doing a standup job in a thankless spot. No matter what you do you are gonna get shit on by some. God forbid the ones constantly getting shit on dont one day say fuck ya all and let yas all deal with it instead while they sit back and criticize every move ya make Ive said my bit, i feel better, going to smoke a bowl and pass out, night all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
X-RayXI Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 133 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 77 Topic Count: 602 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6889 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 1371 Achievement Points: 44114 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 22 hours ago Birthday: 12/12/1971 Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 StormCrow Whys Grey getting chewed up here???? Did he right the damn program????? He is being fair and honest across the board to everyone, XI or NOT.... what more can we ask for??? No matter what happens its never going to please everyone, Stream PB and people get kicked, dont stream PB and people complain cause we get hackers. Give grey a freaking break here people, he has been answering umpteen million PM's tonight i bet, and i have seen him type MANY times, PM me with questions........ seems to me HE is trying to keep the shit off the boards. Grey, water off the back bro, you are doing a standup job in a thankless spot. No matter what you do you are gonna get shit on by some. God forbid the ones constantly getting shit on dont one day say fuck ya all and let yas all deal with it instead while they sit back and criticize every move ya make Ive said my bit, i feel better, going to smoke a bowl and pass out, night all Have a good sleep. And yes, to much to say backstage to the open, but haven't got 1 PM or XFire or an email. Stay off topics if you have doubt in a serive/knowledge and get your head blown off in a game. Well I personally love that moment if that happens to me. (owned Cobryis in a game! Fuck that feels good!) Not saying that a kind of anti-cheat cant be flawed/failing. We have: PB , PB settings, PB Streaming, plus PB Streaming settings. PB banlist and a server banlist. Global bans and if I and not confusing to much: Modded anti-cheat (SSM/Phoenix) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Super Max Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 558 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 576 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 3785 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1477 Achievement Points: 29048 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 24 Birthday: 06/06/1964 Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 Can a admin close this topic ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 Judge i think the thread should stay up for a while, quite often when threads are removed we get accused of hiding things away, you being a local politician should know how important it is to keep things transparent, many on here asked for answers, Greywolf done a great job of providing answers, i am the same as most of you, i did'nt/don't really know how PB works, but i am a bit more enlightened now after Greywolf's response, i say leave the thread up so as many people as possible can see these answers/explanations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av8or Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 793 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Achievement Points: 391 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 14, 2018 Birthday: 01/01/1970 Share Posted February 12, 2011 my tags are gone,, thats fine, i only came here b/c Dollardogg wanted me to. he's gone and he's one of the few i really even got to talk to in here. But my point still stands as I PROVED on page 5 that i was banned early last year and yet i was allowed by the admins to play on all XI servers, seeing as i proved my point there, here is another point that has shown up, Greywolf is now a streaming admin at PB and here at XI, so it looks to me like its a conflict of interest as none of these problem existed til now. Say what you want about NOW we are streaming and maybe it was broken in the past but pb was working for other servers b/c i wasn't allowed in theres. And again my proof is in the fact that i've been playing with a PERMANENT GLOBAL BAN from pb for almost a year on our FT servers and all our others. I'll tell you straight up that pb looked into my ban when i appealed it and they told me as grey just told all of us that the problem with credits was the same as mine. It org. with my IP and i posted my appeal with the same IP and the infraction occured while playing from my IP and that is was a known code that they detected in my pc that had the same code as a known hack. So back then i posted on the forums and explained everything to you (XI) about the ban and that i would probably not be able to play cod4 b/c i would not buy another copy of the game b/c i didn't hack and would not support a game that used a service to literally make a profit. and my reason for saying that then and now, is the fact that i went through my entire folder and never found that file or code or hack that they accused me of having. so all in all my points are the same, i was banned a year ago, was allowed by our admins to play on our servers, and now that grey is working with pb i cant even wear tags. so there seams to be bigger issues than just weather or not credit or i was cheating and it wasnt a big deal til now b/c no one made it a big deal till greywolf started sending out pms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakepliskin Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 175 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 14 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 342 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 168 Achievement Points: 2309 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 4 Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 Holy shitstorm!this place has gotten out of control!This place seems to have fallen off the rocker the last 6 months or so!WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sonovabich Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1534 Topics Per Day: 0.29 Content Count: 5020 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 5171 Achievement Points: 131490 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 Well Greywolf aint actually working with PB with anything, as a clan we have decided to stream all our cod4 servers, and in the future the rest of our servers too, just because Greywolf sent pm's out don't mean he works with PB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labob Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8275 Content Per Day: 1.54 Reputation: 5992 Achievement Points: 53687 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 27 minutes ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted February 12, 2011 Whats the weekly count of peeps using our servers and what would be the % of peeps cheating to that number ?? Then What % of members are part of the cheaters caught ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Malificent Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 38 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1255 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 7228 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 11/06/1971 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I don't think this thread should be locked yet...because I think the reason people are upset is this... Why are we kicking people out of the clan for something they did elsewhere, in another server, not OURS. Are we gonna police everyone everywhere? I can understand using PB for OUR servers and shit...but come on, if someone did a naughty in another server doesn't mean they are gonna do it here. Perhaps they will, but they will get caught. Its like this, if so and so ran a wall hack 3 years ago in another server and was pb banned there, then stopped running hacks, played on our servers for a thousand hours or so, asked to be a clan member, got in, now we decide HEY! Wait! I see you are on the pbbanlist you need to go. I don't get it...if they did it on OUR servers, sure remove their tags and shit...but come on, something they did elsewhere?!?!?! I'm sorry for last night, I was in SHOCK, just sounded like a regime to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitting-Duc Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 561 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 84 Topic Count: 502 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5334 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 4610 Achievement Points: 41339 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 29 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 3 Birthday: 04/06/1992 Device: Android Share Posted February 12, 2011 av8or my tags are gone,, thats fine, i only came here b/c Dollardogg wanted me to. he's gone and he's one of the few i really even got to talk to in here. But my point still stands as I PROVED on page 5 that i was banned early last year and yet i was allowed by the admins to play on all XI servers, seeing as i proved my point there, here is another point that has shown up, Greywolf is now a streaming admin at PB and here at XI, so it looks to me like its a conflict of interest as none of these problem existed til now. Say what you want about NOW we are streaming and maybe it was broken in the past but pb was working for other servers b/c i wasn't allowed in theres. And again my proof is in the fact that i've been playing with a PERMANENT GLOBAL BAN from pb for almost a year on our FT servers and all our others. I'll tell you straight up that pb looked into my ban when i appealed it and they told me as grey just told all of us that the problem with credits was the same as mine. It org. with my IP and i posted my appeal with the same IP and the infraction occured while playing from my IP and that is was a known code that they detected in my pc that had the same code as a known hack. So back then i posted on the forums and explained everything to you (XI) about the ban and that i would probably not be able to play cod4 b/c i would not buy another copy of the game b/c i didn't hack and would not support a game that used a service to literally make a profit. and my reason for saying that then and now, is the fact that i went through my entire folder and never found that file or code or hack that they accused me of having. so all in all my points are the same, i was banned a year ago, was allowed by our admins to play on our servers, and now that grey is working with pb i cant even wear tags. so there seams to be bigger issues than just weather or not credit or i was cheating and it wasnt a big deal til now b/c no one made it a big deal till greywolf started sending out pms. This is one of the issues as an admin team we have been trying to sort. Our understanding and communication has lacked throughout the admin team in the past and we have been doing our best to fix it.. people have made bans and not posted.. ban files have become corrupt, people who have had infractions are still playing etc. etc. Honestly if the admin team had known that a player had a PB Ban when they applied to join XI they would never have been allowed in and also due to the issues iv stated - if an admin had looked into the post you pointed out a while back and we had the knowledge we do now you would have been removed from XI then, also if we had had this knowledge when the servers were first created then we would never of had PB banned players in the clan in the first place. We as an admin team are trying to organise and improve our systems, one of those is the PB system that yes we have always ran on Ftag2 however most likely had some issues with the ban file which has allowed some people to play when they shouldnt have been allowed. As our communication and organisation improves it is causing people who had bans but were still playing to be blocked.. all i can say is sorry but its whats happening. The admin team isn't perfect however this is one of many attempts at keeping the servers clear of hackers and fun to play on for the legit players. Sorry for any inconvience caused however in my opinion this issue is closed, you know whats happend and you know what to do to get back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sitting-Duc Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 561 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 84 Topic Count: 502 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5334 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 4610 Achievement Points: 41339 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 29 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 3 Birthday: 04/06/1992 Device: Android Share Posted February 12, 2011 Malificent I don't think this thread should be locked yet...because I think the reason people are upset is this... Why are we kicking people out of the clan for something they did elsewhere, in another server, not OURS. Are we gonna police everyone everywhere? I can understand using PB for OUR servers and shit...but come on, if someone did a naughty in another server doesn't mean they are gonna do it here. Perhaps they will, but they will get caught. Its like this, if so and so ran a wall hack 3 years ago in another server and was pb banned there, then stopped running hacks, played on our servers for a thousand hours or so, asked to be a clan member, got in, now we decide HEY! Wait! I see you are on the pbbanlist you need to go. I don't get it...if they did it on OUR servers, sure remove their tags and shit...but come on, something they did elsewhere?!?!?! I'm sorry for last night, I was in SHOCK, just sounded like a regime to me. As in the above post it has been a failing in communication and organisation in the admin team, we should have never allowed a player to join if there details were on a global list of known hackers. EDIT: Changed statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Malificent Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 38 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1255 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 7228 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 11/06/1971 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Well, I'm very happy to say that I've never used a hack of any sort. But there are those of you out there who have, perhaps something should be done about this now...like step down, admit you are a hack and therefore not >XI< material because you have used a hack...but were smart enough not to get caught by PB. What's fair is fair right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credit Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 1030 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 357 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1955 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/17/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 06/25/1990 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 greywolf2 Now the one in question who is the concern is credit. Now not once have i accused him of cheating or hacking.... If by some chance his guid was stolen then when banned (and as i am a streaming admin at pbbans i see a bit more info than others) Not only does it show all of his aliases associated to the guid but it also shoes the IP as to where the person --- who's guid got banned is located at. Credit if you seen his location is in the Netherlands but real close to him... So if a stolen guid ended up near him--- what are the odds....... Again i say show me proof----I have But the place where i live on the site ( eindhoven is some where else than i live Veghel ) i wanted to change it but i couldnt, and forgot it all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitting-Duc Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 561 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 84 Topic Count: 502 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5334 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 4610 Achievement Points: 41339 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 29 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 3 Birthday: 04/06/1992 Device: Android Share Posted February 12, 2011 Malificent Well, I'm very happy to say that I've never used a hack of any sort. But there are those of you out there who have, perhaps something should be done about this now...like step down, admit you are a hack and therefore not >XI< material because you have used a hack...but were smart enough not to get caught by PB. What's fair is fair right? That would be the ideal solution.. for all the people who have used hacks to give themselves up.. The way its worked since PB was first created and also systems like VAC is they catch the hacker cannon fodder and the server admins catch the sneaky snipers - it's just the way it it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Malificent Posted February 12, 2011 Member ID: 38 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1255 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 3 Achievement Points: 7228 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 11/06/1971 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Sitting- Malificent Well, I'm very happy to say that I've never used a hack of any sort. But there are those of you out there who have, perhaps something should be done about this now...like step down, admit you are a hack and therefore not >XI< material because you have used a hack...but were smart enough not to get caught by PB. What's fair is fair right? That would be the ideal solution.. for all the people who have used hacks to give themselves up.. The way its worked since PB was first created and also systems like VAC is they catch the hacker cannon fodder and the server admins catch the sneaky snipers - it's just the way it it. LOL! If that were the case....there wouldn't be anyone here, trust me, not everyone here is above the code right? <Cough> Ahem...c'mon you guys...you know who you are! All I am saying is if you keep on with the witch hunt...you are gonna find out that some of the long time members will hafta go too. But I doubt they will, since this is a POWER TRIP! I doubt those that have hacked will even admit it now, they don't want to give up their position in the clan. This is making me really sad, how this is handled...I'm just showing you how it can be interpreted. Maybe one day you all will see that this isn't "drama via Mal".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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