BigPapaDean Posted May 21, 2011 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1202 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6536 Content Per Day: 1.25 Reputation: 4423 Achievement Points: 63519 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 01:22 PM Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted May 21, 2011 would someone that understands throle of ping rate in servers please explain something to all of us leser educateds dipsticks what pings have to do with in game play. i know that ping is not the only thing that comes into play. its just that we have many european friends come into the ace mod with ping raes of 150 to 200 or hiher and run circles around us on an americanserver where we have pings from say 40 to 120. when we go to their servrs we lag big time and get manhandled. please tell us what the secret is o we can make adjustments if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BUDMAN Posted May 21, 2011 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 137 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6970 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 4508 Achievement Points: 58496 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Android Share Posted May 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Cavey Posted May 21, 2011 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Are you asking what ping is? If so, it's the measurement of time in milliseconds (ms) from sending and receiving data to/from a destination. The further the destination the higher the ping. Hops also play a big part... If you were to traceroute the ip address of one of the servers by typing tracert (ip address) you would get a response of the number of hops to the destination. This is the route your data takes to the server. So the smaller the number of hops (or routers the data goes through) the more direct route to the server (straight line and all that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4874 Posted May 21, 2011 Member ID: 2491 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 354 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 04/20/1961 Share Posted May 21, 2011 rubbish i come on to american servers and get done over all the time,i have lost count the amount of times i have shot someone from close range [ i mean aids test close lol]and yet no kill [its not all hacks i am sure?]my fps despite tweaking is about 25fps to maybe 90 if the server is half empty and the map less detailed, you have home field advantage over us and i am sure if you played on a european server they would have it over you, nothing personal mate but i have seen you racing around a map at warp 7,ping depends on distance from the server and connection [as far as i am aware,] that makes you closer than all of us,so you should have a better ping,just for the record chum i have problems getting on to the ace mod due to high ping, and many times come back off a map, due to crap fps and garbage hit reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTheGrip Posted May 21, 2011 Member ID: 177 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 145 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1669 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 281 Achievement Points: 10581 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2023 Birthday: 05/08/1961 Device: iPhone Share Posted May 21, 2011 The big killer is variation in ping, not the actual ping itself. If you play at 150 every day your brain gets used to it and makes slight compensations. you will lead people a little more without even realizing it, for example. The problem comes in when you play at a low level, say 25-35 all the time then jump to a server with a 150 ping. You will be shooting at ghosts. Those 125 milliseconds make all the difference I have even seen the difference from 30 to 50. My ping is usually around 35 and I do ok, but when my connection is a little laggy and jumps up to 50-60 (thanks for not giving a fuck about that Comcast, by the way) it takes me about 4-5 rounds to get used to the new speed and the same in reverse when all the grannies on my street stop d/l photos from their damn grandkids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Damage_inc- Posted May 21, 2011 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted May 21, 2011 correction .you get manhandled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BHzD_WHY Posted May 21, 2011 Member ID: 1425 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 154 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 8 Achievement Points: 850 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/18/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 26, 2023 Birthday: 02/07/1969 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I found this COD2 and COD4 dont use hitboxes, they use pixel collision detection Anti-Lag in COD4 Its a latency-based system which uses algorithms to adjust hit registrations according to a mean average between 2 players whose latency (ping) is plus/minus 50 difference between them. It will delay the rigistration for faster connections, and speed it up for the slower one. In practice, in speeding up the registration, this sometimes appears like you've been hit before the player has even taken a shot. But that is only an illusion created by the algorithm used. Between players whose latency (ping) is not greater than a certain mean average between them, no noticable delay or speeding up is made. In other words, it gives slower ping players a fighting chance against players with a much faster ping. But between players whose ping is roughly the same, no such adjustments are made. If server admins want to reduce the amount of compensation used when anti-lag is enabled (and, it has to be said, many game industry insiders insist that anti-lag is by far and away the "fairer" system), make sure you exclude players with a ping greater than 50/60 the average player ping on your server. So, for example, if the average player ping on your server is 50, set these settings: set sv_minPing "20" set sv_maxping "110" It will have the draw back of limiting server traffic for players whose ping is outside those values, but will greatly reduce the blatant compensation illusions which can (and do) occur using anti-lag. This gives a more "pleasing" experience as you dont feel so robbed or cheated during play. Turn off anti-lag, and you will see the old style hit registrations - the faster ping players will always win hands down against slower ping players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPapaDean Posted May 21, 2011 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1202 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6536 Content Per Day: 1.25 Reputation: 4423 Achievement Points: 63519 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 01:22 PM Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 well i have learned something thathelps me understand that as fast as i am why i get shot coming around acorner by a player i couldnt see yeta thanks for the input guysa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
chris4874 Posted May 22, 2011 Member ID: 2491 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 354 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 04/20/1961 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Bigmeandean well i have learned something thathelps me understand that as fast as i am why i get shot coming around acorner by a player i couldnt see yeta thanks for the input guysa dead easy that one mate, your tactic of running around like a headless chicken stabbing guys [and girls lol] is now very well known by even us europeans with the high ping!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted May 23, 2011 Member ID: 59 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 137 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2115 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 2333 Achievement Points: 15146 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Friday at 01:27 PM Device: Android Share Posted May 23, 2011 They call him "The Slasher" !!!! They took away his guns to make it more even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PingLo Posted May 23, 2011 Member ID: 1103 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 64 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1977 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1122 Achievement Points: 15642 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 16, 2013 Birthday: 01/01/2012 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Thanks for starting this thread for me Dean. I'm so humbled. I don't rate that much often in game, but occasionally I have my moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothpick Posted May 23, 2011 Member ID: 1891 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 12 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1092 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 4 Achievement Points: 6106 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 17, 2012 Birthday: 03/19/1985 Share Posted May 23, 2011 that's why i have a big love for the cod4 servers due to the anti-lag feature :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingLo Posted May 23, 2011 Member ID: 1103 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 64 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1977 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1122 Achievement Points: 15642 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 16, 2013 Birthday: 01/01/2012 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Yeah Ping is much better on COD4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4874 Posted May 24, 2011 Member ID: 2491 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 354 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 04/20/1961 Share Posted May 24, 2011 the one thing i will agree with dean about [ all sit down in shock lol]is some doubts that all of us must have at one time or another over certain players, one example tonight on ace mod ,on the fubar map, i shot a german from very close range [nothing new my family have been doing that since 1914 lol] he did not die, in the end he just turned around like he was almost bored, and shot me,now because of distance etc this can happen when shooting a north american, but this guy had a far higher ping than me [i am uk based so closer to the server]he knew i could not kill him. and some of the ranges these guys [there were two of them]were firing from was insane,now please note i am not a sore loser, i am crap at this game,i have a overclocked 7600 gs and 1,5 gig of ram, in a self built frankenstein of a pc,all i want to do is come on, get slaughtered and have a laugh,this sort of thing [if i am right] ruins it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-RayXI Posted May 24, 2011 Member ID: 133 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 77 Topic Count: 602 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6889 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 1371 Achievement Points: 44115 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 09:19 PM Birthday: 12/12/1971 Device: Windows Share Posted May 24, 2011 Ping rates: 1. What game. 2. Crappy hardware 3. No updated drivers / maintenance. 4. File Corruption after awhile. Next is the internet speed/ provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
dollardogg Posted May 24, 2011 Member ID: 189 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 45 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1388 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7432 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 10 Birthday: 02/01/1978 Device: Windows Share Posted May 24, 2011 X-RayXI Ping rates: 1. What game. 2. Crappy hardware 3. No updated drivers / maintenance. 4. File Corruption after awhile. Next is the internet speed/ provider. ping means nothing but if u have a shitty pc something to rely on !!!!!!!!!!!! wish more chicks was on this post we could ask them does ping matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4874 Posted May 24, 2011 Member ID: 2491 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 354 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 04/20/1961 Share Posted May 24, 2011 X-RayXI Ping rates: 1. What game. 2. Crappy hardware 3. No updated drivers / maintenance. 4. File Corruption after awhile. Next is the internet speed/ provider. i could not disagree more , hardware wise, mine is self built. and old, but rates an "a" with pingtest ,my drivers are all up to date, and the system itself whilst being xp version 3 is old but is also maintained everyweek,ref spyware etc. packet wise 250 sent 250 recieved with a low ping rate to the tester.it cannot be bad hit reg all of the time [not with the same guy] and i have been told that if you are hit and the screen is shaking that guy is using "god mode" [ a hack] more than likly have to learn to live with it as i llike ace mod and the insane gits that use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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