GorillaXI Posted July 9, 2013 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Like I said LOM, I did not pen that. I never heard of that rapper so how would I know. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandShark Posted July 9, 2013 Member ID: 698 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1145 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 782 Achievement Points: 7232 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 2, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2013 The whole trial is one more case for the "Tail wagging the Dog." We allow a few people demand something, and do it, because we're afraid they'll have a temper tantrum. But what are the consequences when innocent people are on trial because a certain race, creed, religion or special interest group threatens to protest? To put it mildly, in our home we love our kids and grand kids, but temper tantrums don't get them what they want (and very often end with something they don't want). It's time to stop letting temper tantrums control our country. LandShark Leadfinger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
little_old_man Posted July 9, 2013 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Like I said LOM, I did not pen that. I never heard of that rapper so how would I know. You wouldn't of heard of him of course, but the point of the message was how misleading the press is when reporting on this trial, and they attempt to get their message across by misleading us again with a fake picture. I was a bit suspicious of the picture when I first saw it, and a quick Google search confirmed my suspicions. There is a ton of misleading info out there from all sides and I always try to confirm what I'm seeing or reading before passing it on. I just wish the press and all of the activists would shut up about the damn trial until the jury renders their verdict. Afterall, this trial won't determine if Zimmerman is guilty or innocent, it will determine which side has the best attorney, and that's all any trial does. Leadfinger and hxtr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted July 9, 2013 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Share Posted July 9, 2013 I just wish the press and all of the activists would shut up about the damn trial until the jury renders their verdict. Afterall, this trial won't determine if Zimmerman is guilty or innocent, it will determine which side has the best attorney, and that's all any trial does. One good reason to allow live TV of the proceedings so the press cannot control and distort distort the reporting to suit their own mindsets or perceptions. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 9, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 I remember before the Trial.. Trayvon's father and mother said something that led me to believe why riots will happen. Sure Terry will think I am wrong. hahah He said... something to the effect about letting the trial takes its course.. but what caught me is when he said, "We just ask the public to stay calm for now". They want the riots... tv can make some great money covering it plus on my other side fits right into the plans of my other opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDALL Posted July 9, 2013 Member ID: 2582 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 28 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 778 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 599 Achievement Points: 6919 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2021 Birthday: 07/22/1991 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Zimmerman will probably need some protection from the authorities for a while. Some people are crazy enough to kill those who walk on cases like this, as if there was a bounty on his head or something. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamu Posted July 9, 2013 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Share Posted July 9, 2013 I think regardless of evidence and testimony in the trial, and whatever the jurors decision, I do not think it will change anyone's preconception of guilt or innocence. Most will continue with their preconceived opinion that he is either guilty or innocent. The trial will not change their opinions. Opinions have already been formed and are not likely to change especially within the radical mindset. My prediction? A mistrial because of a hung jury. Then the question is do they try to try him again. I think not. What is a shame is that often the person on defense does not have the financial resources to survive in our justice system. Even in civil suits the allegedly aggrieved party can get a lawyer for percentage of the potential financial winnings ( 30-40% ) with no cost to them if they lose. Meanwhile the defendant has no financial protection and very easily can wind up in the poor house defending themselves. Hemps and hxtr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 9, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) good points Shamu... and didn't even think of the hung jury. That can very well happen and I agree.. doubt they do it again. I still see riots if a hung jury. People are stocking up on bricks. Edited July 9, 2013 by hxtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 10, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 I just heard.... Some were saying on the street. the riots will happen more from the profiling no matter the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage_inc- Posted July 10, 2013 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.37 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2013 if that really was said in public he should be arrested for inciting mob and racial violence ...fk jamie fox ..man there is so much reverse racism that nobody touches it in the media and in hollywood....its fucked up for sure.wtf people hxtr, GorillaXI, Cpt.TennealXI and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
GorillaXI Posted July 10, 2013 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Share Posted July 10, 2013 if that really was said in public he should be arrested for inciting mob and racial violence ...fk jamie fox ..man there is so much reverse racism that nobody touches it in the media and in hollywood....its fucked up for sure.wtf people Damn, Damage and I agree on something? What is this world coming to? Next thing you know cats and dogs will be living together, it will be mass hysteria. Twinkie 13, Damage_inc- and hxtr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkie 13 Posted July 10, 2013 Member ID: 3003 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 26 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 417 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 346 Achievement Points: 3582 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 14 hours ago Birthday: 03/17/1979 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2013 "Thats a BIG twinkie" Ghostbusters GorillaXI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Ironcity Posted July 10, 2013 Member ID: 3787 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 29 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 150 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 71 Achievement Points: 1383 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/10/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7 Birthday: 12/11/1965 Device: iPhone Share Posted July 10, 2013 @@hxtr Just change the channel and watch something else man. Who the hell is Zimmerman anyway? tv sucks anyway. Damage_inc- and Leadfinger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted July 10, 2013 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14881 Content Per Day: 2.78 Reputation: 7824 Achievement Points: 91060 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 10, 2013 I see your thinking will never change Terry. So i guess the Jamie Fox things means nothing to you? He did say that... and trust me.. or not It will happen. Just not where you live. Sure wish LOM had DVR'ed that BET. Sure someone did. Terry you have way more faith in things than I do.. probably a good thing.... ignorance is bliss. Oh Jeff, it's not ignorance. I just have a different prospective on the story. When u don't live in the fishbowl, you have the luxury of listening to all the facts without the emotional passion surrounding the trial. You guys are correct. The media does play a roll in events such as this. The only problem is its both the liberal and conservative media are equally to blame. Gorillas post is a prime example. You take a tragedy such as this, and your bound to find someone who will twist the facts to fit their own agenda. Both the liberal and conservative media base use are own inherent fear of each other to promote their propaganda. It's us against them. It's white against black, it's poor and well to do.. It's culture against culture. It's our fear of change and the unknown... What's lost in the circus is that a young man lost his life, needlessly. Do I blame Zimmermen? No, he was doing what he thought was the right thing to do. The problem is we have a society were we need people like Zimmermen taking things into their own hands. It's our society that's one display here, and we are failing miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted July 10, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 @@hxtr Just change the channel and watch something else man. Who the hell is Zimmerman anyway? tv sucks anyway. If you don't like the topic go read something on barbie dolls or something. I watch very little tv and when I do I catch the news. I have very little desire for fiction. If you dont have an opinion then read something else. But.. it is the riots THAT WILL HAPPEN that I think is way more important than that video game you play in all your spare time. I see your thinking will never change Terry. So i guess the Jamie Fox things means nothing to you? He did say that... and trust me.. or not It will happen. Just not where you live. Sure wish LOM had DVR'ed that BET. Sure someone did. Terry you have way more faith in things than I do.. probably a good thing.... ignorance is bliss. Oh Jeff, it's not ignorance. I just have a different prospective on the story. When u don't live in the fishbowl, you have the luxury of listening to all the facts without the emotional passion surrounding the trial. You guys are correct. The media does play a roll in events such as this. The only problem is its both the liberal and conservative media are equally to blame. Gorillas post is a prime example. You take a tragedy such as this, and your bound to find someone who will twist the facts to fit their own agenda. Both the liberal and conservative media base use are own inherent fear of each other to promote their propaganda. It's us against them. It's white against black, it's poor and well to do.. It's culture against culture. It's our fear of change and the unknown... What's lost in the circus is that a young man lost his life, needlessly. Do I blame Zimmermen? No, he was doing what he thought was the right thing to do. The problem is we have a society were we need people like Zimmermen taking things into their own hands. It's our society that's one display here, and we are failing miserably. I have no emotion in this except interest and some for the people I will see harmed. This is a huge distraction to what is really going on in the world.... but it is like the best drama/reality TV show you can see on TV.... news in general is. I so agree with you on both sides. They are all to blame.. can't agree more. If riots do happen... they are very much to blame by keeping it in the news. I think they are playing the same game just on different teams. Otherwise they would move on to way more important things. All run but the same at the very top but I think that about all that run this country. Same game just different teams. As for Zimmerman doing the thing he though he should do.. it had been a problem in their neighborhood and the police sanctioned it. We have problems in our neighborhoods unlike you do. Come live in his neighborhood and see if you have the same opinion. A disarmed society would be grave danger for our masses. What is under attach is what was considered the profiling. Much like the TSA in airports. They were ridiculed so much after 911 that now that pat down small kids just to show no bios to someone from another decent. Even heard of women having cavity searches. WTF? Really? What a violation to the max. As for Ignorance Pete.... just a raz like the old days. I know you are a smart mofo.. just don't tell anyone I told you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamu Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Share Posted July 11, 2013 Hmmm......if true shame on the Justice Department. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/10/did-justice-department-support-anti-zimmerman-protests-after-trayvon-shooting/ hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_old_man Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Hmmm......if true shame on the Justice Department. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/10/did-justice-department-support-anti-zimmerman-protests-after-trayvon-shooting/ Somehow that's not surprising, if true. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14881 Content Per Day: 2.78 Reputation: 7824 Achievement Points: 91060 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 11, 2013 Hmmm......if true shame on the Justice Department. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/10/did-justice-department-support-anti-zimmerman-protests-after-trayvon-shooting/ Somehow that's not surprising, if true. Didn't we just have this discussion about a bias media. Can believe a dam word from anyone.... hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
little_old_man Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Sorry Terry, where is my head. I forgot you get your news from Comedy Central. Tell you what, how about CNN and MSNBC, is that more legitimate for you? http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/politics/peacekeepers-zimmerman/index.html http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/06/13/at-center-of-efforts-to-heal-sanford-a-man-named-battles/ Edited July 11, 2013 by little_old_man hxtr and Pharticus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14881 Content Per Day: 2.78 Reputation: 7824 Achievement Points: 91060 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Sorry Terry, where is my head. I forgot you get your news from Comedy Central. Tell you what, how about CNN and MSNBC, is that more legitimate for you? http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/politics/peacekeepers-zimmerman/index.html http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/06/13/at-center-of-efforts-to-heal-sanford-a-man-named-battles/ Comedy Central is for a good laugh, nothing more.. but I am amused that "MSNBC and CNN" are now legit news organizations when it suits the narrative..lol... I fall back on my previous statement which stands true. They all have an agenda, just some more than others. Edited July 11, 2013 by PimpedOutPete hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
little_old_man Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted July 11, 2013 It now appears that the prosecutor is affraid he won't get a conviction on 2nd degree murder charges, so he asked the judge to allow the jury to convict on the lesser charge of manslaughter and the judge granted the request. How is this possible? You go to trial and prepare a defense for a very specific charge against your client, and after both sides have rested their case, the prosecution decides that things aren't looking too good and decide to bring additional charges against your client. The judge does not like the defense attorney. It showed them arguing on the news last night and the judge just walking out of the court room ignoring the defense attorney. One way or another they'll find something to convict Zimmerman on regardless of what the jury decides. This trial is a farce. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/11/19415120-zimmerman-to-face-lesser-charge-of-manslaughter-in-addition-to-second-degree-murder?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=1 hxtr, Hemps, Blackbart and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.17 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Yep LOM.. I seen that. They are only trying to get that conviction but the riots will still happen if he is convicted of manslaughter. If they do that.. and this will probably be true anyway... you will not see many more neighborhood watches anymore. People will be afraid of these damn consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaXI Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 62 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 73 Topic Count: 480 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 4124 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 1413 Achievement Points: 27905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 4, 2015 Birthday: 06/16/1972 Share Posted July 11, 2013 WTF? The prosecution tried to slip in a child abuse charge this morning before closing statements. What is wrong with this world? Blackbart, loaderXI and hxtr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_old_man Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted July 11, 2013 WTF? The prosecution tried to slip in a child abuse charge this morning before closing statements. What is wrong with this world? It's called being a sore loser. They know they're fucked and they want to win "something" at all cost. Blackbart, GorillaXI and hxtr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted July 11, 2013 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) The prosecution is panicking because I believe they feel they have lost the case. Now they are scrambling for any kind of guilty verdict they can find. Simply to try and get a conviction and avoid radical public reaction. The case is no longer, and maybe never was about Zimmerman, it's now about controlling radical reaction at the expense of fair justice. If the judge approves their request I would consider it compromising our legal system and warranting a mistrial at the very least. If anyone should be on trial here perhaps it is the prosecutors. Edited July 12, 2013 by Shamu Blackbart, hxtr and Gatorgirl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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