siDARKde Posted August 22, 2016 Member ID: 3750 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 9 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 172 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 123 Achievement Points: 1346 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/27/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 5, 2020 Birthday: 05/14/1972 Posted August 22, 2016 Okay all you pc geeks, I'm sure many of you have tried more graphic cards than I can research. I am running an old AMD HD5 5700 series card. Now this was a great card but unfortunately it just don't have enough power to drive anything new. Looking at the new battlefield 1 game. I would like to get at minimum a R9 290 4gb, not sure I want a gtx so lets just stay with AMD. Fan cooled no water. Computer is a dell studio xps originally with win 7,(10 now) has a i7 2.8ghz processor. I've seen the R9 370 much cheaper than the 290, but also see there were much more problems with the 370. Trying to stay under 300, 250 be better. So to all you pc geeks what graphics card would you recommend. pc express slot and I am not sure on the power connectors. I will have to shut down and look I know I seen at least the 4 pin hook up, didn't see a second. So If you need any more technical info I can probably get but I am a novice at best with hardware. I know how to swap out cards memory sticks and repair fans but a lot of the terms are greek to me. Any help would be appreciated thanks siDARKde---------->dark inside Awards
Predat0r Posted August 22, 2016 Member ID: 5777 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 85 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1479 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 1060 Achievement Points: 10812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/26/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 28, 2019 Birthday: 07/09/1981 Posted August 22, 2016 If you wanna play Bf 1 i think you also need a new processor. And maybe also more RAM check this link: http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=9002&game=Battlefield%201 hope i helped you. Awards
siDARKde Posted August 22, 2016 Member ID: 3750 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 9 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 172 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 123 Achievement Points: 1346 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/27/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 5, 2020 Birthday: 05/14/1972 Author Posted August 22, 2016 got 12 gb of ram Isnt the i7 still pretty good? Awards
L!ckALotAPus Posted August 23, 2016 Member ID: 21216 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 20 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1695 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1732 Achievement Points: 15803 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Birthday: 02/09/1966 Posted August 23, 2016 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150771&cm_re=rx_480-_-14-150-771-_-Product HellTiger 1
HellTiger Posted August 23, 2016 Member ID: 23572 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 6 Topic Count: 336 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 1328 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1646 Achievement Points: 12762 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 28, 2018 Birthday: 07/03/1990 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) I agree with Go0fLo0p Just change out your video card. Everything else should be good. We aren't going for ultra settings here. You should be able to run BF1 smoothly with just a video card upgrade. Judging from your CPU speed I'm guessing you have the i7-860 or i7-930. Still a good CPU. You will be fine. Edited August 23, 2016 by HellTigris Mupphovsmannen and L!ckALotAPus 2 Awards
n00ne Posted August 23, 2016 Member ID: 747 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 9 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 194 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 87 Achievement Points: 1197 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/15/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 15 Birthday: 05/24/1946 Device: Windows Posted August 23, 2016 http://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/# is a good site for checking out hardware, also Toms Hardware. Awards
SupaDupa Posted August 23, 2016 Member ID: 20988 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 29 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 317 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 310 Achievement Points: 2300 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/23/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 17, 2024 Birthday: 10/16/1980 Device: Android Posted August 23, 2016 MSI bro. Massive bang for buck! I am not an AMD guy. But I know for sure MSI makes a rock solid unit with very good air cooling. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127874
KaptCrunch Posted August 23, 2016 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4872 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4053 Achievement Points: 39427 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 51 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 8 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted August 23, 2016 save your money for beating a dead horse with CPU locked into PCI-e 2.0v new cards with PCI-e 3.0v means need to update MB, RAM, CPU, and PSU Awards
J3st3r Posted August 23, 2016 Member ID: 2162 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 153 Topic Count: 152 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5223 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 5172 Achievement Points: 45911 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 24 Joined: 01/25/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 08:03 AM Birthday: 02/26/1972 Device: Windows Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Stay away from the R9 370.It's a decent card but in reality it's just a 7950 or 280X with 4 gig of memory instead of 3gb. GTX 970 still smokes all of the 300 and 400 series cards in the $300-$400 price range including most of the R9 Fury in most benchmarks.Best bang for the Buck is get a GTX 970.wish I would of had the extra $40 when I got my R9 290X.The GTX 970 and 980 have ALOT faster rendering than most of the newer AMD/ATI cards under $400. This is a smoking deal for someone if your willing to buy off of Ebay.Only 1 left to. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-NVIDIA-Geforce-GTX-970-4GB-GDDR5-ACX-2-0-Graphics-Card-04G-P4-2972-KR-New-/252459178777?hash=item3ac7bd5b19:g:O4UAAOSwygJXhWBs I'm kinda tired of having to buy a bigger power supply every time I upgrade my AMD cards.Seems like the newer they are the more power they want.The R9 290x and 390x are very very power hungry.Average of 342W under load. Watch the Power requirements or you'll end up having to spend another $200-$300 for a good Single rail power supply. Edited August 23, 2016 by J3st3rXI Awards
Sammy Posted August 23, 2016 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted August 23, 2016 960 nothing to sneeze at either and the prices are good. Also, if you watch a lot of BD's or plan to watch 4K in the future, it has hardware acceleration. 970/980 do not and rely on the cpu. Awards
siDARKde Posted August 28, 2016 Member ID: 3750 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 9 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 172 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 123 Achievement Points: 1346 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/27/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 5, 2020 Birthday: 05/14/1972 Author Posted August 28, 2016 ugg thanks guys but unfortunately many of you are correct. my pc was bad ass 5 years ago with a pc E 2.0 express slot. I would love just to swap out the video card but I don't think it will do. ugg So many game I would rather play on PC. But I can buy them all and just play on ps4. Hell I bought new battlefront for pc. nope cant play GC not good enough. Just don't want to plop down 1400 for new rig either. 75% of my time on the pc is for business and ebay. It runs like a champ for that. Of course my daughter is graduating next year so she will need new laptop for college. Plus she requested a Disney cruise with everyone for her grad present. How can I refuse that since this will be the last kid moment of her life and she wants to be with us! Guess I will just wait till November. maybe someone will have good black Friday deal. Unless any one out there has a new rig laying around they would like to donate?????LOL Thanks all for the info and time always helps to get the different insight because I will inevitably overlook something obvious. siDARKde Awards
Sammy Posted August 28, 2016 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted August 28, 2016 A Disney cruise for a grad present? Always pricey. Then again, wait until its wedding time. Then the really big bills come in. Awards
Mupphovsmannen Posted August 28, 2016 Member ID: 23237 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 42 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 53 Achievement Points: 450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/10/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 24, 2019 Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) ugg thanks guys but unfortunately many of you are correct. my pc was bad ass 5 years ago with a pc E 2.0 express slot. I would love just to swap out the video card but I don't think it will do. ugg So many game I would rather play on PC. But I can buy them all and just play on ps4. Hell I bought new battlefront for pc. nope cant play GC not good enough. Just don't want to plop down 1400 for new rig either. 75% of my time on the pc is for business and ebay. It runs like a champ for that. Of course my daughter is graduating next year so she will need new laptop for college. Plus she requested a Disney cruise with everyone for her grad present. How can I refuse that since this will be the last kid moment of her life and she wants to be with us! Guess I will just wait till November. maybe someone will have good black Friday deal. Unless any one out there has a new rig laying around they would like to donate?????LOL Thanks all for the info and time always helps to get the different insight because I will inevitably overlook something obvious. siDARKde This is not correct. The fact is that no graphicscard use more than 8GB/s of bandwidth on the PCI-E (That's the maximum speed of PCI-E 2.0 x16). So you will still do fine with a PCI-E 2.0 motherboard and a R9-390. I would rather go with a GTX 1060 in your case but you have no need at all to upgrade motherboard and cpu yet. Edited August 28, 2016 by Mupphovsmannen HellTiger 1
J3st3r Posted August 29, 2016 Member ID: 2162 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 153 Topic Count: 152 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5223 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 5172 Achievement Points: 45911 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 24 Joined: 01/25/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 08:03 AM Birthday: 02/26/1972 Device: Windows Posted August 29, 2016 960 is ok but your gona run into games that will need more and faster dedicated video memory.960 is only equipped with 2gb of 128bit gddr5 memory.If the memory speed was double or triple as fast it wouldn't be so bad.But it severely hurts performance especially when it comes to rendering. L!ckALotAPus 1 Awards
L!ckALotAPus Posted August 29, 2016 Member ID: 21216 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 20 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1695 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1732 Achievement Points: 15803 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Birthday: 02/09/1966 Posted August 29, 2016 960 is ok but your gona run into games that will need more and faster dedicated video memory.960 is only equipped with 2gb of 128bit gddr5 memory.If the memory speed was double or triple as fast it wouldn't be so bad.But it severely hurts performance especially when it comes to rendering.that is why a 480 with 8 gig and 256 bit bus is the bang for the buck at $299 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150771&cm_re=rx_480-_-14-150-771-_-Product
JohnnyNashville Posted August 29, 2016 Member ID: 25938 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 346 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1496 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 290 Achievement Points: 13343 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/17/17 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 8, 2024 Birthday: 08/08/1961 Device: Windows Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) Nobody can give you a real answer without knowing... How many monitors are you running What size monitor(s) What size is your power supply Without knowing these basics its all opinions and not facts.... Just for fun...If you are running a single 21" monitor and a 500 watt power supply the GTX970 will work just fine... johnny Edited August 29, 2016 by NakedJohnny_XI Mupphovsmannen 1
SupaDupa Posted September 1, 2016 Member ID: 20988 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 29 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 317 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 310 Achievement Points: 2300 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/23/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 17, 2024 Birthday: 10/16/1980 Device: Android Posted September 1, 2016 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-980-4GB-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3-0-Graphics-Card-Silver-Black-/122100571202?_trksid=p2352135.m2548.l4275
HellTiger Posted September 8, 2016 Member ID: 23572 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 6 Topic Count: 336 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 1328 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1646 Achievement Points: 12762 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 28, 2018 Birthday: 07/03/1990 Posted September 8, 2016 ugg thanks guys but unfortunately many of you are correct. my pc was bad ass 5 years ago with a pc E 2.0 express slot. I would love just to swap out the video card but I don't think it will do. ugg So many game I would rather play on PC. But I can buy them all and just play on ps4. Hell I bought new battlefront for pc. nope cant play GC not good enough. Just don't want to plop down 1400 for new rig either. 75% of my time on the pc is for business and ebay. It runs like a champ for that. Of course my daughter is graduating next year so she will need new laptop for college. Plus she requested a Disney cruise with everyone for her grad present. How can I refuse that since this will be the last kid moment of her life and she wants to be with us! Guess I will just wait till November. maybe someone will have good black Friday deal. Unless any one out there has a new rig laying around they would like to donate?????LOL Thanks all for the info and time always helps to get the different insight because I will inevitably overlook something obvious. siDARKde @@siDARKde You are completely wrong. PCI-E 2.0 vs PCI-E 3.0 is on average only a 2 FPS difference. The PCI Express 3.0 cards are backward compatible, will work fine on PCI Express 2.0/1.1 slots, with negligible performance difference. So no need to worry about that. Check this video: You will need to upgrade your power supply if it is under 600W. GTX 980 PCI Express 2.0 Vs PCI Express 3.0 Performance Benchmarks As you could see the performance of GTX 980 on PCI-E 2.0 X16 slot vs PCI-E 3.0 X16 is just 2 FPS or less. Highly negligible or even non-existent! Awards
HellTiger Posted September 8, 2016 Member ID: 23572 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 6 Topic Count: 336 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 1328 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 1646 Achievement Points: 12762 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/19/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 28, 2018 Birthday: 07/03/1990 Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) It has also been proven with the GTX 1080 and RX 480 on PCI-E 2.0 and 3.0 that there is no performance hit. You can get any GPU you want. You don't need a everything upgrade. Keep it simple, GPU and PSU upgrades are needed for your system. You will need to upgrade your power supply if it is under 600W. Edited September 8, 2016 by HellTigris Awards
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