Shamu Posted July 25, 2011 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Share Posted July 25, 2011 Many of us think we are too liberal here with our criminals as can be seen in another post on the death penalty. Well how would you like to be in Norway and have lost family to that idiot who killed all those people and admits to doing it? Did you know the maximum sentence he can receive is 21 years? No life sentences, death penalty in Norway Sachedina said the typical maximum sentence for criminal offences in Norway is 21 years. The country does not use capital punishment or life sentences in its justice system. So much for Liberal laws. It just is not fair to the families who have lost loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted July 25, 2011 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted July 25, 2011 disembow the shit fuck. Not sure how to spell but let him watch is intestine be pulled out of his stomach. Sorry i am not into tourcher but some just derserve the ultimate price.. pain and death. What a deterrent!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daretorparn Posted July 25, 2011 Member ID: 1367 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 65 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 395 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 13, 2013 Birthday: 07/02/1993 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I think that a death sentence is too light punishment, I think he should be tortured so he has to suffer as much as thevictims before he's executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackeklaus Posted July 25, 2011 Member ID: 1012 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 935 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 269 Achievement Points: 5547 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 8, 2020 Birthday: 11/23/1987 Share Posted July 25, 2011 i dont like the death penalty too but i would like if there where something likes stoning. its a way to easy to kill him just because this would be the best exit for him so why dont we punish such peoples? that would be great. stoning and spitting on them woohoo that would be fun. usally im not on of this guys who likes to torture, or like to see how others get tortured but in this case it has to be something likes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
DEEJAYKEG Posted July 25, 2011 Member ID: 1238 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted July 25, 2011 Shamu, I tend to look at other countries' justice systems and say "it works for them". I applaud the dignified reaction of the Norwegian people who will emerge stronger after all this grief and pain. Their country may well be very different after all the legal process is over but not in the way the perpetrator wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Boomer Posted July 25, 2011 Member ID: 2083 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3554 Content Per Day: 0.73 Reputation: 4992 Achievement Points: 23761 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/31/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 14, 2014 Birthday: 10/20/1962 Share Posted July 25, 2011 sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PimpedOutPete Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14886 Content Per Day: 2.78 Reputation: 7827 Achievement Points: 91090 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 26, 2011 DEEJAYKEG Shamu, I tend to look at other countries' justice systems and say "it works for them". I applaud the dignified reaction of the Norwegian people who will emerge stronger after all this grief and pain. Their country may well be very different after all the legal process is over but not in the way the perpetrator wanted. My heart goes out to the family and friends that lost loved ones in that senseless tragedy. Up to this point Norway was a peacefull country with very little severe crimes. Unfortunately things may change... When u live in a society where murder and crime is the norm, you become hardened to the fact. Its a sad day when you felt safe one day and did not the next... Things will never be the same in that country i fear... As for person who commited these crimes... Death is the only justice, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
7Toes Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 57 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27249 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Share Posted July 26, 2011 well our system lets people like that set on death row for 20 years.when your found quilty you should only get 90days to appeal then on the 91st off with your head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 DEEJAYKEG I applaud the dignified reaction of the Norwegian people who will emerge stronger after all this grief and pain. There is no guarantee that that will be true, there is just as much chance of the opposite happening. I have little doubt that the action will cause some kind of reaction. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astronomer Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 2069 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 214 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2411 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 2409 Achievement Points: 18298 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 08/08/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted July 26, 2011 To be fair to the Norwegians, they do have a clause whereby after 21 years of incarceration, they can decide if he/she poses a continued threat to society and they can keep that individual incarcerated indefinitely. Canada has a 25-year maximum, but we also have a "Dangerous Offender" clause reserved for serial killers, serial rapists etc. Animals like Clifford Olson, former Colonel Russell Williams and Paul Bernardo will die in Prison. My problem with the death penalty is that there is too great a risk of condemning an innocent person to death because some lawyer was more persuasive than another. Look it up via Google: How many innocent people have been executed, and how many more are on Death row? Search "Cameron Todd Willingham" for example. The vileness of some crimes makes one scream for the ultimate retribution, but the risks are far too great, and as a deterrent to further crimes, it just doesn't work. just my $.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Nutcutter Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 1540 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 13 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 856 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 100 Achievement Points: 4812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/28/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 6, 2017 Birthday: 09/20/1969 Share Posted July 26, 2011 DEEJAYKEG Shamu, I tend to look at other countries' justice systems and say "it works for them". I applaud the dignified reaction of the Norwegian people who will emerge stronger after all this grief and pain. Their country may well be very different after all the legal process is over but not in the way the perpetrator wanted. I agree it may not happen overnight, but its things like this that make people sit back and think. A death penalty is an easy way out compared to a fat horny guy named BUBBA for the rest of your days.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickTheGrip Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 177 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 145 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1669 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 281 Achievement Points: 10581 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2023 Birthday: 05/08/1961 Device: iPhone Share Posted July 26, 2011 Actually, if that was one of my kids, I would be glad he didn't get the death penalty. I would be camping outside that prison door for weeks waiting for him to come out. And I would make sure somehow he knew I was waiting for him. I would send him a copy of that recent film "Law Abiding Citizen", cut right after the scene where he tortures the guy who killed his family. That way he could feel the kind of terror that those defenseless kids on the island felt when he gunned them down one by one. I would even keep him alive as long as possible so that he could endure days and days of pain and suffering The best part is that I would gladly carry out the same process on him that the guy in the movie did. I know a lot of people say revenge is no cure, but I would not be looking for a cure. I would be looking to make him understand the fear and suffering he caused to a bunch of kids - the fucking coward. It would be time for him to be picked on by someone his own size. Only then could I be at peace as knowing I did nothing to avenge my child's death at the hand of a callous coward. A coward who is only a big man with a gun in his hand pointing it at helpless kids begging not to be killed. Piece of shit does not deserve to live among decent people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14886 Content Per Day: 2.78 Reputation: 7827 Achievement Points: 91090 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 26, 2011 Astronomer The vileness of some crimes makes one scream for the ultimate retribution, but the risks are far too great, and as a deterrent to further crimes, it just doesn't work. just my $.02 Thats 0.3 cents American now.....hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RogueKill Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 1588 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 904 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 139 Achievement Points: 5532 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/19/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2023 Birthday: 08/25/1966 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I being the hard ass that I am find myself in a quandry over this. The bible states that you should abide by the laws, but in medieval times these were horrific laws and sentences at times with no logical justice ==so who is to say their laws are better or worse?The bible also says that thou shalt not kill, but it also says an eye for an eye. I want to say, gut him,and let the buzzards finish, but then ...who am I to judge a life? My gut feeling is to make an example of him to deter any others in his wake.He is clearly the villain--- an eye for an eye. In Casey Anthony's case, the court has made its decision by a jury and we must respect that. We all think she killed her daughter, just like we think O.J. killed Nicole, jurisprudence was done by jury and all we have is the media to base our verdicts on--like a thumbs up or down as the way we see it from the stands, and god forbid we repeat history-- just in a different forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Damage_inc- Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.37 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted July 26, 2011 well it is bad here and people go on rampages killing ten people at a time all the time so often .BTW in norway they have around 3300 prisoners average on a daily basis total and 25 % of those 3300 are foreignors...What ever they have been doing in the past has worked but this one turns things upside down. *without a doubt he should not be breathing at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Astronomer Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 2069 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 24 Topic Count: 214 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2411 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 2409 Achievement Points: 18298 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 12/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 08/08/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted July 26, 2011 PimpedOutPete Astronomer The vileness of some crimes makes one scream for the ultimate retribution, but the risks are far too great, and as a deterrent to further crimes, it just doesn't work. just my $.02 Thats 0.3 cents American now.....hehehe So why the hell are paperback books still $2 more here, and many consumer goods are still far cheaper just across the border? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8270 Content Per Day: 1.54 Reputation: 5985 Achievement Points: 53653 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 3 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Android Share Posted July 26, 2011 Is it possible that those 21 years is per crime thats 82 time 21 is 1722 years ? Don't know but that might be the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
RogueKill Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 1588 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 904 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 139 Achievement Points: 5532 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/19/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2023 Birthday: 08/25/1966 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Good thought Labob, I wonder if that's the case? If so that's not a death sentence perse, but life all the same. Still doesn't seem enough though does it? But all you could do to him will never fix what has been done. All I can think about is those poor kids begging for their life scared like we could never imagine. Lot of shit goin on in the world but this one really haunts me.....I don't know.. been doin alot of introspection. This one kinda fucked me up as a human, you know what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted July 26, 2011 Shamu DEEJAYKEG I applaud the dignified reaction of the Norwegian people who will emerge stronger after all this grief and pain. There is no guarantee that that will be true, there is just as much chance of the opposite happening. I have little doubt that the action will cause some kind of reaction. Only time will tell. are we stronger after 911... in my opinion we are way weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekketom Posted July 26, 2011 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: iPhone Share Posted July 26, 2011 hupp... they are talking about 21 years for that guy here. that fucking idiot. . but as said before. after that time i can be held for longer. death is just a easy way out for him. i would nail him to a cross. feed him with (IV) and let him hang there for rest of his life. so people can to what the fuck they want with him. i talked to my famely and the girl who was out there yesterday. she hided under a rock. when he shot everyone a round here. about 9 10 people. he reloaded above here... he was so close that she coud hear his breath. and that fucking sadist laugh when he turned away to find more kids. she had a friend with here. who got shot in the stomach. she died in here arms. i cryed my eyes out when seh told me the stories from that hell island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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