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Ok guy's I had problems with battlefield 3 crashing my comp so after loads of trials and different fixes I decided to bite the bullet and format my HD and upgrade from win7 32 bit to win7 64bit upgraded every driver to the latest version I have no anti virus installed and basically running a bare system apart from cod4 which is working brilliant.

So I started playing it tonight for the first time since I upgraded to 64bit and for 30 mins great no problems then all of a sudden without warning my comp locks up then shuts down .

I am all set to give up and just stick to bloody cod 4 and crysis 2

 

EDIT .....I do not know if its related but just played our cod mw server and kept getting what appeared to be CI's..

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baldie - Computer advice needed please

Ok guy's I had problems with battlefield 3 crashing my comp so after loads of trials and different fixes I decided to bite the bullet and format my HD and upgrade from win7 32 bit to win7 64bit upgraded every driver to the latest version I have no anti virus installed and basically running a bare system apart from cod4 which is working brilliant.

So I started playing it tonight for the first time since I upgraded to 64bit and for 30 mins great no problems then all of a sudden without warning my comp locks up then shuts down .

I am all set to give up and just stick to bloody cod 4 and crysis 2

 

EDIT .....I do not know if its related but just played our cod mw server and kept getting what appeared to be CI's..

Don't quit just yet!

 

What's your graphics card and Power supply (exact model and brand)? do you monitor your temps in-game?

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Agree somethings taking about 30 minutes to get to a temp it can't handle any more. The reason it shuts down is its decisioned that way to protect your gear from damaging its self. I'd try this for a next test take the Side off of it and place a fan blowing into it. And try playing again. See how long you can go.

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OK Guys here is my system I changed my power supply for a spare one I had put aside because I was not sure my other one was working as good as it should (it had started to make a bit of a noise). but I changed it before the crashing started and dnt think that is the cause... BUT You guy's know better than me...

 

motherboard....Biostar AM3 TA790GXB3

Processor........AMD Phenom II X4 955

Memory  .........Corsair Vengeance ddr3 8GB

GPU     ...........NVidia Geforce GTX 470

Power supply...ATRIX 720W Switching power supply

Win7 pro 64bit

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I'm with Labob and Mofo, sounds like could be a heat issue.  Do you have any additional fans running in your case?  What brand is the video card (ie. EVGA, MSI, etc.).  Some may put a less than adequate cooling on the card to spare cost.  Also, programs like AIDA64 can monitor fan speeds and core temps.  Be interesting to understand what temps you idle at before putting your system under load by gaming.

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you can download a free program here to monitor your temps.

 

http://majorgeeks.com/HWMonitor_d5842.html

 

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Cheers Guy's and at Idle cpu  min 28*c (83*f)  max 33*c (83*f)

                                     gpu  min 43*c (109*f) max 53*c (127*f)    as of 10 min ago  

 

I must admit I am worried about gpu temp am I right in thinking its too hot oh and my vid card is ASUS

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You can increase your graphics card fan speed with Rivatuner i believe that by default they run at 25% speed,mines set at 60% at the click of a button in the software and you can set this to start on windows start up.Mines been like this for years and i have never had any problem.You can hear the fan speed increase when you hit apply.here is a link:-

http://www.guru3d.com/article/rivatuner-20-fan-speed--overclock-guide/

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Cheers Guy's and at Idle cpu  min 28*c (83*f)  max 33*c (83*f)

                                     gpu  min 43*c (109*f) max 53*c (127*f)    as of 10 min ago  

 

I must admit I am worried about gpu temp am I right in thinking its too hot oh and my vid card is ASUS

Ok,

 

honestly, 53 degrees celsius is NOTHING for a card like that. Actually, the GTX470 is a power hog and runs REALLY warm...if yours runs at 53 max, you got the coolest one ever...so, I think you might not get the max temperature reading....

But, if you use EVGA precision, or MSI afterburner, you can run the in-game overlay, and monitor your GPU temps DURING gameplay.....that is the only reliable reading IMHO (trying to help as best as I can).

 

The ATRIX power supply, tho....I'm not sure...don't mean to offend..but it's nowhere close to be a reliable brand....a quality 500Watts PSU would be better than this...the 720watts rating is overly optimistic.

That being said, i realize money doesn't grow up in trees...don't mean to offend...a decent PSU is worth $75 minimum...

AFAIK, there is no UL certification on this thing.

I think the PSU might be tripping a RAIL, which resets the rig...

 

so, my verdict....too high in-game temps or PSU crying for his mom...

 

BY THE WAY, thermal throttling on a GTX470 should occur between 90 degrees and 105 degrees celsius...and complete thermal shutdown at 110 to 125 degrees celsius....

 

so it might be your PSU taking a dump....but monitor your in-game temps and report bro!

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Cheers Guy's and at Idle cpu  min 28*c (83*f)  max 33*c (83*f)

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I must admit I am worried about gpu temp am I right in thinking its too hot oh and my vid card is ASUS

Ok,

 

honestly, 53 degrees celsius is NOTHING for a card like that. Actually, the GTX470 is a power hog and runs REALLY warm...if yours runs at 53 max, you got the coolest one ever...

But, if you use EVGA precision, or MSI afterburner, you can run the in-game overlay, and monitor your GPU temps DURING gameplay.....that is the only reliable reading IMHO (trying to help as best as I can).

 

The ATRIX power supply, tho....I'm not sure...don't mean to offend..but it's nowhere close to be a reliable brand....a quality 500Watts PSU would be better than this...the 720watts rating is overly optimistic.

That being said, i realize money doesn't grow up in trees...don't mean to offend...a decent PSU is worth $75 minimum...

AFAIK, there is no UL certification on this thing.

I think the PSU might be tripping a RAIL, which resets the rig...

 

so, my verdict....too high in-game temps or PSU crying for his mom...

 

BY THE WAY, thermal throttling on a GTX470 should occur between 90 degrees and 105 degrees celsius...

 

Thanks mate the power supply was put in as an after thought because my CoolerMaster Silent Pro 1000W  started making some very loud grinding noise and I had to swap with another one I had spare to keep me going.

So I think the first thing I should do next week is upgrade the PSU and add more cooling..

I REALLY APPRICIATE ALL YOU GUYS ADVICE ON THIS SO A BIG THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

 

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WOW I just ran  MSI afterburner and during the test my gpu hit 81*c and was climbing fast

Ok its got to be a temp issue my GPU hit 92*c and pcb hit 71*c and my screen started to play up and freeze and the temp was still rising

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Well got ya what shutting it down now why is another question. Whats getting your video card so well anxious :)

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WOW I just ran  MSI afterburner and during the test my gpu hit 81*c and was climbing fast

Ok its got to be a temp issue my GPU hit 92*c and pcb hit 71*c and my screen started to play up and freeze and the temp was still rising

Humm...

don't run KOMBUSTOR...that test is REALLY too demanding and doesn't represent a real gaming load...

 

Try to use  OSD (on-screen display, and pick GPU temps)...so the temperature will be displayed on screen during gameplay...

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do u clean ur fans regulary ?

u have no idea how much dust these can get and how it will affect temps.

go get a dust off can and clean the gpu fans is a good idea, u can even take the gpu out to do this more carefully.

and while u at it clean the other fans (case, cpu,...)

still im not sure the temps is the problem, but its never a bad idea to clean stuff :)

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cleaning the fans is what I do almost once a month LOL

ChKn is right with this....

 

like MOFO stated use Afterburner to control your temps ingame and maybe change the fan speeds of your gpu 

there is a fan profile you can change with afterburner

 

if there are still issues with crashing I agree its the PSU

MOFO is the man with PSUs and he is right...the Atrix is not this good ....

use http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp to calculate how much power you need

I think it should be 500 -550 w and that can be the reason for the freezes and crashes

 

done that here and was really surprised about the result

after adding my 2x 6970, a few fans and watercooling H100 it shows me my 850w Enermax is not enough to run everything smooth on max OC

explains some crashes under full load

have to go for a new Enermax 1350w psu soon LOL

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