NightmareXI Posted January 4, 2012 Member ID: 68 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 44 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2709 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 132 Achievement Points: 14854 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 20, 2022 Birthday: 04/13/1969 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Shamu... have you ever used a tool to monitor your gpu temps? getting a new one might be the easiest part LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Gump Posted January 4, 2012 Member ID: 1060 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 206 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 01/01/1970 Share Posted January 4, 2012 No pinching of prongs! Turn the black knobs on the heatsink in the direction of the arrow 90 degrees and pull up to release. More than likely your video card fan is running on auto from the cards bios,not good for a gtx295.Install EVGA precision or MSI afterberner and create a custom fan profile to ramp up the fan speed as the card heats up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamu Posted January 4, 2012 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Author Share Posted January 4, 2012 I don't see any knobs and the prongs I do see seem hold the fan in place. They protrude through the MB and look like plastic points that are pushed into 4 holes in the MB and self lock in place. Am I right in that the fan needs to come off so I can get to the CPU? Have not seen any knobs or arrows.......perhaps under the fan I suspect. Downloaded EVGA Precision and was clueless with what to do with it. A Window opens but no files or programs to open. No clue what I was to do with it so I have already deleted it. I do have MSI downloaded and again no clue what to do with it but it looks more professional than EVGA. I am the classic computer illiterate. I also find absolutely no fun in working on a PC. My attitude certainly does not help in this matter. I will say again there was VERY little dust to be seen inside my PC. Digesting all that's been said I suspect the CPU and the heat sink compound. I will say vacuuming and air dusting have improved things but not fixed them. I may have to rely on my son who works for Siemens doing network and laptop type service. I just do not feel like asking because he will just go his way regardless of what I might like to just have him do. It can be exasperating, but he is good at what he does. Survived several layoffs when more senior employees were released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 4, 2012 Member ID: 1060 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 206 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 01/01/1970 Share Posted January 4, 2012 You can download the user manual for afterburner here: event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm More than likely it was opening to the system tray.Both precision and afterburner are written buy the same person,they are fairly easy to set up.Once set up it will control the fan automatically to your settings and display your temps on screen while in the game. If you don't have any program installed for graphics fan speed,I suspect your video card over your cpu as the problem.If you want to check it anyway post a pick of your cpu fan and we'll see if we can tell you how to take it off. If you want to see if the video card is the problem,you can download "Nvidia Inspector" which requires no installation,just run the program,take fan off of auto and turn up manually and try a game and see what happens; downloads.guru3d.com/NVIDIA-Inspector-1.94-download-2612.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 3095 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 1 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 188 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 115 Achievement Points: 1277 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 10, 2013 Birthday: 02/14/1963 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Dear God, if you're not comfortable with working on your PC DO NOT REMOVE THE CPU COOLER! You can't just "check" your thermal compound. If you pull your cooler you'll have to clean it with a xylene-based cleaner, put on new thermal compound (properly) and re-attach your cooler.....definately not something I recommend a noob to do. If you suspect the CPU is overheating, there's a lot of tools out there that monitor your CPU temps....check with your mobo manufacturer. Run the CPU at 100% load and see exactly what the temp is BEFORE you go messing with the cooler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomSlang Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 94 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 556 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 368 Achievement Points: 3770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 12/03/1955 Device: Windows Share Posted January 5, 2012 http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/evga-geforce-gtx-560-ti-2win.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8282 Content Per Day: 1.54 Reputation: 5997 Achievement Points: 53732 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted January 5, 2012 Shamu if you see the fan running on your cpu just leave it be. The dust would only collect around the fan and on the cooling fins so you would see it. Everything under the fan is flush mount. So after pulling off the sides to see if it was temp related you proved it was. The next step is finding out what is over heating. I would make a general statement here saying in order from the most common overheating device to the least is video card CPU Motherboard Power Supply RAM The formentioned programs will help you out very much in diagnosing which device is heating up. That does not mean its going bad. The other thing these programs do is allow you to set your fan speed. Now it is very possible that your fans have been set to quiet mode instead of performance mode. Here's a link to the nividia system tools http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia-system-tools-6.08-driver.html it does drop the graphic into the tool bar but all you have to do is double click it and it goes right onto your desktop. Keep an eye on the temps it will tell you which ones heating up. I know its alot but its the way to tell whats going on. Good luck let us know what you find out K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 I have HWMonitor installed, what temps or data should I be looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavey Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Ummmm, did anyone read his original post, it is only crashing ingame cod5... Have you reinstalled the game??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 296 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4491 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3649 Achievement Points: 36650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 17 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted January 5, 2012 Shamu got a hosue fan to blow inside case opened side that air flows across MB and towards back of case yes let son re thermal paste CPU cooler Do Not Remove Heat sink it and run system will kill cpu chip dead DOA whats your motherboard make and model ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Labob Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8282 Content Per Day: 1.54 Reputation: 5997 Achievement Points: 53732 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Share Posted January 5, 2012 Good question I think for a GPU a shut down temp would be in the area of 110 to 120 deg C and your CPU in the 70 deg range. Thats a guess but it would be up there. So if its possible to watch for one that has a spike in temp. I think that would be you culprate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Cavey Ummmm, did anyone read his original post, it is only crashing ingame cod5... Have you reinstalled the game??? I have not reinstalled but could. Would the game be capable of totally crashing the PC, except for the fans which remain running? I still lean to overloading hardware or something like that. Another odd thing, I crashed multiple times on a Rats type map. Same thing happened before. The following maps I had no hard crashes. Could a specific map or maps cause a system to overheat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavey Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.42 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Well I'm just trying to do a process of emlinination. If your machine ONLY crashes with COD 5, then I would start there. Save your profile, so you don't loose your rank, and give it a go. It can't hurt. You don't want to spend money buying other hardware until you are sure you have eliminated software. Also just move you maps, and mods to another location before reinstall, and try redownloading mods and said faulty maps. If all is well then it was that that caused the issue. If it still hapeens, then move your maps and mods from the other location back, and focus on hardware. You have nothing to loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 2658 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 21 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 104 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 45 Achievement Points: 829 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/11/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 27, 2023 Birthday: 12/18/1974 Device: iPhone Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hi have u make a update from the Video Card ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Cavey You have nothing to loose. Very true and I do know how to save profiles and maps. In fact I always move my profile to whichever PC I will be using. Everything is updated, in fact did the video card twice just to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 296 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4491 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3649 Achievement Points: 36650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 17 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted January 5, 2012 Shamu Cavey You have nothing to loose. Very true and I do know how to save profiles and maps. In fact I always move my profile to whichever PC I will be using. Everything is updated, in fact did the video card twice just to be sure. whats the up date on motherboard bios ? mite be the issue some pci-e slots fail/die try video card in another slot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
baldie Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 75 Topic Count: 244 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3347 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 2645 Achievement Points: 33854 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted January 5, 2012 Shamu Cavey You have nothing to loose. Very true and I do know how to save profiles and maps. In fact I always move my profile to whichever PC I will be using. Everything is updated, in fact did the video card twice just to be sure. Shamu mate its not your game.........If you can search my posts from a couple of months ago I went through exactly the same problem... ITS EITHER YOUR GPU OR CPU OVER HEATING...... The more detailed the map the harder your GPU has to work creating more heat.....Msi afterburner will give you a better idea of temps...What I did was try to work out how long into game did the comp crash then start playing and just before the comp crashes get out of game and check your temps .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 baldie .....Msi afterburner will give you a better idea of temps...What I did was try to work out how long into game did the comp crash then start playing and just before the comp crashes get out of game and check your temps .... I have downloaded MSI but have to figure out how to use it. I also have HWMonitor downloaded. Just a moment ago I set a fan up on my desk blowing into the PC. So I have a few things to follow up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 1060 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 206 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 01/01/1970 Share Posted January 5, 2012 No need to get out of game to check temps.MSI afterburner has an on screen display server and will display fan speeds and card temperature on screen in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold fusion Posted January 5, 2012 Member ID: 455 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 99 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 48 Achievement Points: 1167 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/19/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Funny, i thought that my pc died as well a few weeks ago. Would only crash in-game. I would have to restart the computer. Turns out, there were just some loose wires in the case. I unplugged everything including the memory, cleaned the dust out of the fan and it runs again with no crashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted January 6, 2012 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 With an outside assist from a fan my video card was running about 130F max and the CPU 100F max. THese results are from HWMonitor which is easy to interpret. http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html Later I will run without the fan assist. Don't know how to get MSI to display while in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsw 8.5 Posted January 6, 2012 Member ID: 906 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 144 Topic Count: 518 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 17136 Content Per Day: 3.24 Reputation: 42152 Achievement Points: 148988 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 680 Joined: 12/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Birthday: 11/30/1960 Device: Windows Share Posted January 6, 2012 click the on screen display and it should work just look at the setting on the top ..and you will find it then when you open that you can check on what you want to show up on the screen ..it is all there just have to spend a few min to find it ..hope that helps .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Shamu Posted January 6, 2012 Member ID: 715 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 8 Topic Count: 418 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2178 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 1183 Achievement Points: 16606 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2023 Birthday: 11/04/1943 Device: Windows Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Latest activity. I called Red Barn Computer, the people who built my PC for assistance. http://rbc.redbarncomputers.com/?page_id=30 I can have them take over my PC remotely. What I learned is that while my GTX 295 shows all updates installed when checking NVIDIA for updates there are some Beta updates that do not show when checking if your system is current. So while my system shows "Current" there are still some updates that are more recent than mine. Don't ask me how to find the again. The tech lost me after a few clicks. So I now have the latest Beta update and will try to see how things go. There were 3 beta updates since my last one that supposedly had me current. No hardware or overheat issues were apparent. So now to try and see what happens with the "secret" update. Kind of fun watching a tech move around on your PC looking for possible issues. I was lost after a few clicks he made Crashed again but seemed less frequent, got through 3 maps before crashing. Hoping a reboot makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 6, 2012 Member ID: 1060 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 206 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Never Birthday: 01/01/1970 Share Posted January 6, 2012 What is the video card temp when it crashes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted January 7, 2012 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 45 Topic Count: 296 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4491 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3649 Achievement Points: 36650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 17 hours ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted January 7, 2012 Shamu can you load CPU-Z this program will tell you about bios version without opening case also ram,cpu click the mainboard tab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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