hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted October 3, 2014 I stand corrected. Here is a video of a engulfed steel framed skyscraper in Chechnya. I guess WTC 7 could of come down from a fire after all.
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014 Here are more lies... wow was I wrong about steel framed buildings.
Sammy Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.91 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted October 3, 2014 A lot also depends on the unique way in which the wtc was constructed. It was more of an exoskeleton than anything else. hxtr 1 Awards
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014 A lot also depends on the unique way in which the wtc was constructed. It was more of an exoskeleton than anything else. Watch the other video Sammy. They explain what was different in Tower 1 and 2 and other conventional steel framed buildings.
Leadfinger Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Posted October 3, 2014 I stand corrected. Here is a video of a engulfed steel framed skyscraper in Chechnya. I guess WTC 7 could of come down from a fire after all. There had to be a lot more combustible material in this building. I'm no expert but steel doesn't burn like this. That building is almost entirely engulfed in flames. Also note: the steel in that building is probably not American steel. try if for yourself . . buy some steel and weld up a scaled down version of a building fill it with paper and insulation cover it in jet fuel and light it up. Once the jet fuel burned up in the towers there should have still been a building left even if it was just a skeleton. hxtr 1 Awards
Sonovabich Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.87 Reputation: 5198 Achievement Points: 131537 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 8 Device: Windows Posted October 3, 2014 Put Thermite in there it would bring anything down. baldie, NITRO and hxtr 3
DEEJAYKEG Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 1238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.10 Reputation: 4985 Achievement Points: 50728 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11, 2024 Posted October 3, 2014 There had to be a lot more combustible material in this building. I'm no expert but steel doesn't burn like this. That building is almost entirely engulfed in flames. Also note: the steel in that building is probably not American steel. try if for yourself . . buy some steel and weld up a scaled down version of a building fill it with paper and insulation cover it in jet fuel and light it up. Once the jet fuel burned up in the towers there should have still been a building left even if it was just a skeleton. National Geographic Channel screened an informative documentary over here recently explaining the physics of the collapse. Jet fuel doesn't burn steel but the extreme heat does weaken it to the point that it is no longer able to support the weight of the floors above it. As they fell, there was a piledriver effect. The complete absence of any residual demolition materials from the scene is also highly compelling in itself. That everything took place on live TV also provides indisputable evidence of what occurred. Why do they call people who cling to fantasies "truthers" anyway?? Leadfinger, Hemps and little_old_man 3 Awards
HarryWeezer Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 20166 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 611 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 7655 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 7232 Achievement Points: 53682 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 36 Joined: 10/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 01:17 PM Birthday: 10/16/1946 Device: Windows Posted October 3, 2014 I have a nephew who is caught up in conspiracy theories of all sorts and I find there's no reasoning with people who buy the bullshit spewed on the various conspiracy web sites. But then too, we have TV (Nat. Geo channel and others) airing nonsense on Susqautch, space aliens, ghosts, etc., and the gullible ignorant buy this crap. If I were Bill Gates I would have a commercial-free, "real" reality channel that did nothing but debunk the bullshit - everything from the above to lying commercials. The dumbing down of America is in full force. baldie, Hemps, Frags and 2 others 5 Awards
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014 What I have found over the years.. you can provide someone so much evidence and their hard headedness prevents them from seeing the truth. Sonovabich and Leadfinger 2
little_old_man Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) National Geographic Channel screened an informative documentary over here recently explaining the physics of the collapse. Jet fuel doesn't burn steel but the extreme heat does weaken it to the point that it is no longer able to support the weight of the floors above it. As they fell, there was a piledriver effect. The complete absence of any residual demolition materials from the scene is also highly compelling in itself. That everything took place on live TV also provides indisputable evidence of what occurred. Why do they call people who cling to fantasies "truthers" anyway?? DJ hit the nail on the head. Sky scrapers are simply great big Jenga games. The strength of the structure relies entirely on the strength of the supporting framework. Remove or weaken a single piece and the entire structure comes down. "Truthers" is a term that got really popular after 9/11 refering to people who are alway seeking what they see as the truth. They never believe the excepted explanation especially if it's our government telling us. I run into this a lot with the man made global warming fanatics. I KNOW that global warming is real and has been for the last 11,500 years since the last ice age ended and will continue until the next ice age begins. Man may be speeding the process up but I'm not entirely convinced of that yet. Where I strongly disagree with others is when they tell us that we need to by hybrid cars, CFL light bulbs and solar panels to magically fix the entire problem. The Obama administration has the global warmining propaganda machine in high gear right now. The entire world runs on oil, coal and natural gas. Our population is exploding, and there simply is no way to change those things unless some scientist perfects cold fusion tomorrow and we stop making so many babies. Al Gore has become a billionaire spreading his bullshit and yet he doesn't practice what he preaches. Convincing people they need to buy products to save the planet is all a money grab, and it's working like a charm. Edited October 3, 2014 by little_old_man Hemps 1 Awards
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014 OK if I was to agree that if you heat metal it gets weak.. will that explain the perfect cuts in the steal? Did the fire cause this? Looks like the work of Nano-Thermite to me. Leadfinger 1
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014
Hemps Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted October 3, 2014 DJ hit the nail on the head. Sky scrapers are simply great big Jenga games. The strength of the structure relies entirely on the strength of the supporting framework. Remove or weaken a single piece and the entire structure comes down. "Truthers" is a term that got really popular after 9/11 refering to people who are alway seeking what they see as the truth. They never believe the excepted explanation especially if it's our government telling us. I run into this a lot with the man made global warming fanatics. I KNOW that global warming is real and has been for the last 11,500 years since the last ice age ended and will continue until the next ice age begins. Man may be speeding the process up but I'm not entirely convinced of that yet. Where I strongly disagree with others is when they tell us that we need to by hybrid cars, CFL light bulbs and solar panels to magically fix the entire problem. The Obama administration has the global warmining propaganda machine in high gear right now. The entire world runs on oil, coal and natural gas. Our population is exploding, and there simply is no way to change those things unless some scientist perfects cold fusion tomorrow and we stop making so many babies. Al Gore has become a billionaire spreading his bullshit and yet he doesn't practice what he preaches. Convincing people they need to buy products to save the planet is all a money grab, and it's working like a charm. and if you look behind all this "global warming" crap you'll find people making money off it! Awards
Hemps Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted October 3, 2014 to get all the facts you would need what this piece of steel looked like before this pic, maybe that just happened to be the end of a piece or a joint. so it's inconclusive! Awards
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014 Global Warming is no different than 911..... a lie. I believe a NWO is coming... not liberal shit like "Yes We Can". As for that piece of steel... please don't say that was that way before the buildings fell. lol I don't think it would have passed inspection... but then again the Mafia built the Twin towers. Now how many will call me full of shit for that Mafia or La Cosa Nostra statement? Another one of them inconvenient truths. The Mafia built New York.
CobraBites Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 2313 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 330 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4924 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 3034 Achievement Points: 33897 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 4 Joined: 03/19/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 2, 2017 Birthday: 05/26/1974 Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Put Thermite in there it would bring anything down. traces of thermite was found in the left over steel from wtc collapse...just fyi...which states to me it was planned demolition of the WTC towers....b4 the collapse few days prior to the attacks on the towers there were paint crews in the bldg painting....some suggest they planted the thermite in the paint...doesnt seem far fetched to me... Edited October 3, 2014 by CobraBites hxtr and baldie 2
Hemps Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted October 3, 2014 Global Warming is no different than 911..... a lie. I believe a NWO is coming... not liberal shit like "Yes We Can". As for that piece of steel... please don't say that was that way before the buildings fell. lol I don't think it would have passed inspection... but then again the Mafia built the Twin towers. Now how many will call me full of shit for that Mafia or La Cosa Nostra statement? Another one of them inconvenient truths. The Mafia built New York. i can't say it was that way without all the facts. but conspiracy theorist have no problem with it Awards
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014 What do you notice about the parts of this image I have circled in red? Lacking surface rust like everything else around it. Them runs of melted steel is fresh... otherwise it would have surface rust.
HarryWeezer Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 20166 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 611 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 7655 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 7232 Achievement Points: 53682 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 36 Joined: 10/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 01:17 PM Birthday: 10/16/1946 Device: Windows Posted October 3, 2014 If you're still buying the man-made global warming nonsense, spend some time with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq4Bc2WCsdE Hemps 1 Awards
HarryWeezer Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 20166 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 611 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 7655 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 7232 Achievement Points: 53682 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 36 Joined: 10/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 01:17 PM Birthday: 10/16/1946 Device: Windows Posted October 3, 2014 traces of thermite was found in the left over steel from wtc collapse...just fyi...which states to me it was planned demolition of the WTC towers....b4 the collapse few days prior to the attacks on the towers there were paint crews in the bldg painting....some suggest they planted the thermite in the paint...doesnt seem far fetched to me... It's time for the truth to come out. It was the space aliens. baldie and DEEJAYKEG 2 Awards
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014 Who said I believed in Global Warming. Staring to sound like the CIA Media Broadcasting Group. Miss information.
Hemps Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 1482 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 37 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2018 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 1440 Achievement Points: 15303 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2024 Birthday: 07/13/1967 Device: Windows Posted October 3, 2014 they keep saying that you can't melt metal with any of the things found in the towers, but yet you can melt metal with wood! bet you didn't know that hu? all you need is fuel and air coming into the fire with a bit of force, like you would see blacksmiths use. there was a lot of wind up there and also the draft from the fire pulling in fresh air and lots of consumables . but im not saying this is what happened, but the fact that it could happen is there. to me it's more plausible then people sneaking up there in the middle of that hell and placing explosives and in that amount of time. Awards
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014 Lets go back to the 4' thick non-rusty piece of Iron that looks like it was cut with thermite. Did the wind cause that to cut like that? How windy was it on ground zero. Or are we still not sure that cut Iron was that way or not before the building came down?
DEEJAYKEG Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 1238 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.10 Reputation: 4985 Achievement Points: 50728 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11, 2024 Posted October 3, 2014 Lets go back to the 4' thick non-rusty piece of Iron that looks like it was cut with thermite. Did the wind cause that to cut like that? How windy was it on ground zero. Or are we still not sure that cut Iron was that way or not before the building came down? Your problem is that you have no context into which to place that photo. There's no date, time, location or other information about it. One cannot even be sure that it actually comes from New York! I have seen so many manipulated photos that I don't trust them as factual any more. Face up to the fact that there is not a shred of evidence that supports the nonsensical fantasies. We all know who murdered those poor people and how it was done. Hemps and little_old_man 2 Awards
hxtr Posted October 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Author Posted October 3, 2014 OMG.. it's like talking to Liberals. You can give them facts all day long but they will deny it no matter what.
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