acucats07 Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20834 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 325 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 115 Achievement Points: 1857 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/25/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 25, 2015 Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Med bag changes (the big ones) -No longer heals players in radius when supressed. No longer works when diving/underwater Ready system fixes From CTE team play initiative. So now everyone is going to run around with LMGs because it's so "pro" to do so. This discourages team play that is already extremely lacking in non-infantry maps. I'll be going back to BF3 if this goes live with the FS maps. Just my $.02 Edit: I've played on different servers and it's almost already about 2/3 support/LMG. You'll see less and less assault players and a majority will be flocking to Support just for this. Edited October 15, 2014 by acucats07 MILESHIGH 1
OddJob001 Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted October 15, 2014 Med bag changes (the big ones) -No longer heals players in radius when supressed. No longer works when diving/underwater Ready system fixes From CTE team play initiative. So now everyone is going to run around with LMGs because it's so "pro" to do so. This discourages team play that is already extremely lacking in non-infantry maps. I'll be going back to BF3 if this goes live with the FS maps. Just my $.02 Edit: I've played on different servers and it's almost already about 2/3 support/LMG. You'll see less and less assault players and a majority will be flocking to Support just for this. Lets not forget the damg model changes that pushed many people use LMGs as well. Those things are rampant everywhere. TBH I have noticed a decrease in Carbine usability. I used to be able to kill 2 enemies, 3 if they are low health, with 1 magazine of a Carbine. Now I am lucky to kill 2. Where as a LMG user has enough rounds to be able to easily take out 2-3 or more. phudruker and MILESHIGH 2
acucats07 Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20834 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 325 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 115 Achievement Points: 1857 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/25/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 25, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2014 Lets not forget the damg model changes that pushed many people use LMGs as well. Those things are rampant everywhere. TBH I have noticed a decrease in Carbine usability. I used to be able to kill 2 enemies, 3 if they are low health, with 1 magazine of a Carbine. Now I am lucky to kill 2. Where as a LMG user has enough rounds to be able to easily take out 2-3 or more. Exactly and not only that but if close enough will cause suppression. You already have enough lone wolves running around hosing everything down. I've been practicing on getting the two-three kills with the AEK/scar and some under used weapons like Aug a3 but I have to plan and properly flank with a squad. I haven't really used a carbine except acw-r and cqb still can get me out of trouble at times but this will definitely cause less and less usage and does not promote team play what-so-ever. Ever play locker with a bipod pro on the outside with an acog? He can practically hold that down on his own without additional support for the most part if this is implemented. You already don't see enough team play (medics in particular) on most maps so it is just going to further this problem.
mouselad Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Posted October 15, 2014 Exactly and not only that but if close enough will cause suppression. You already have enough lone wolves running around hosing everything down. I've been practicing on getting the two-three kills with the AEK/scar and some under used weapons like Aug a3 but I have to plan and properly flank with a squad. I haven't really used a carbine except acw-r and cqb still can get me out of trouble at times but this will definitely cause less and less usage and does not promote team play what-so-ever. Ever play locker with a bipod pro on the outside with an acog? He can practically hold that down on his own without additional support for the most part if this is implemented. You already don't see enough team play (medics in particular) on most maps so it is just going to further this problem. I've really been enjoying the Aug since the patch.
7Toes Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted October 15, 2014 the reason this happened was they listen and reacted to the whiners the few that did not like getting killed by certain weapons.instead of looking at the overall picture another DICE fail lol.they did that instead of actually fixing the game lol.they thought that would keep people bitching about the weapons instead of the real issues of the game lol Awards
mouselad Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Posted October 15, 2014 Ready system fixes? i'm excited for that at least haha OddJob001 1
The Flush Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 1106 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 33 Topic Count: 125 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 832 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 538 Achievement Points: 6778 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 06/24/1975 Posted October 15, 2014 Great, more competition for my #100 world rank with the PKP...lol JAYsus_NL 1
mouselad Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Great, more competition for my #100 world rank with the PKP...lol I'm #438 with the LSAT and @@The Flush you've improved. you are 96 with the PKP Edited October 15, 2014 by mouselad The Flush 1
phudruker Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 21006 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 124 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 66 Achievement Points: 1052 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/31/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 13, 2015 Birthday: 04/02/1994 Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) i will say this. The m60-E4 has pretty much turned into a full auto dmr, and ive definitely had an issue with the damage model since its rendered my favorite engineer weapon (AK-5C) basically useless if this goes live ill continue to use assault but ill be way more careful! lol also im #219 with the z11 xD Edited October 15, 2014 by phudruker The Flush 1
acucats07 Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20834 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 325 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 115 Achievement Points: 1857 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/25/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 25, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2014 the reason this happened was they listen and reacted to the whiners the few that did not like getting killed by certain weapons.instead of looking at the overall picture another DICE fail lol.they did that instead of actually fixing the game lol.they thought that would keep people bitching about the weapons instead of the real issues of the game lol Yup, because the "gun" is so "OP." I agree 100-%.
MILESHIGH Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20780 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 91 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 34 Achievement Points: 536 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 9, 2015 Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Yeah ya'll are right Acucats and Odd. I feel the same way since the patch. There does seem to be a decrease in the weapon damage for the carbines an everyone is now going to support class to supplement the changes. I played one round of metro lastnight and you couldnt find a medic other than me, I play the class a lot because I am playing Battlefield for the team play, for squad play (but maybe thats just me), otherwise I'd just go play Call of Duty. DEFIBRILLATOR 4,074 RevivesTop 4% MEDIC BAG 44,478 HealsTop 2% Edited October 15, 2014 by MILESHIGH Millpucky and OddJob001 2
MILESHIGH Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20780 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 91 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 34 Achievement Points: 536 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 9, 2015 Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) I'm #438 with the LSAT and @@The Flush you've improved. you are 96 with the PKP You are actually #439 now Mouse, you better get back in there lol. http://bf4stats.com/pc/Mouselad_XI_ADM Edited October 15, 2014 by MILESHIGH
Sammy Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 1.92 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 17 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Posted October 15, 2014 Developers should never give in to the whiners. Listen to what they have to say. Then do what you feel is best for the game. Not for them. Unless of course the decision is to allow the whiners to run their own private servers and make their own changes so they are happy. The Flush 1 Awards
Oneill Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Yeah ya'll are right Acucats and Odd. I feel the same way since the patch. There does seem to be a decrease in the weapon damage for the carbines an everyone is now going to support class to supplement the changes. I played one round of metro lastnight and you couldnt find a medic other than me, I play the class a lot because I am playing Battlefield for the team play, for squad play (but maybe thats just me), otherwise I'd just go play Call of Duty. DEFIBRILLATOR 4,074 RevivesTop 4% MEDIC BAG 44,478 HealsTop 2% Sure in softcore I see the assault being less and less useful but in hardcore and classic you don't auto regen health, so people will be running to you left and right to get some health otherwise they wont last long. Also maybe your reading the notes wrong? the way it sounds to me, it will still heal you when suppressed but you will actually have to be touching the bag instead of within a certain radius of it. if that's the case I don't see it as such a big deal, only time will tell though. Edited October 15, 2014 by Oneill
OddJob001 Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted October 15, 2014 Exactly and not only that but if close enough will cause suppression. You already have enough lone wolves running around hosing everything down. I've been practicing on getting the two-three kills with the AEK/scar and some under used weapons like Aug a3 but I have to plan and properly flank with a squad. I haven't really used a carbine except acw-r and cqb still can get me out of trouble at times but this will definitely cause less and less usage and does not promote team play what-so-ever. Ever play locker with a bipod pro on the outside with an acog? He can practically hold that down on his own without additional support for the most part if this is implemented. You already don't see enough team play (medics in particular) on most maps so it is just going to further this problem. This can be turned off in a cfg btw. I do not get any blurred vision.
Oneill Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Posted October 15, 2014 This can be turned off in a cfg btw. I do not get any blurred vision. you never did send me how to do that, please explain
acucats07 Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20834 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 325 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 115 Achievement Points: 1857 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/25/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 25, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) This can be turned off in a cfg btw. I do not get any blurred vision.I don't get the visual, but still know when some scrub is shooting 100+ rounds my way and has worst accuracy than a two year old and because "suppression is helping my team move forward." Also suppression still affects gun play significantly. Edited October 15, 2014 by acucats07 OddJob001 1
acucats07 Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20834 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 325 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 115 Achievement Points: 1857 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/25/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 25, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Sure in softcore I see the assault being less and less useful but in hardcore and classic you don't auto regen health, so people will be running to you left and right to get some health otherwise they wont last long. Also maybe your reading the notes wrong? the way it sounds to me, it will still heal you when suppressed but you will actually have to be touching the bag instead of within a certain radius of it. if that's the case I don't see it as such a big deal, only time will tell though.So the majority of players won't be able to play a game mode is okay? DICE logic is also not ours. This means a pretty dramatic nerf, if you are suppressed you can not heal with med bag. Edited October 15, 2014 by acucats07
JAYsus_NL Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20692 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 217 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1943 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 2009 Achievement Points: 16789 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/16/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 8 Birthday: 01/13/1980 Device: Windows Posted October 15, 2014 Great, more competition for my #100 world rank with the PKP...lol And me with my #16 world rank with the RPK-12 The Flush and mouselad 2 Awards
Oneill Posted October 15, 2014 Member ID: 20884 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 274 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 288 Achievement Points: 1812 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 6, 2017 Birthday: 06/10/1989 Posted October 15, 2014 So the majority of players won't be able to play a game mode is okay? DICE logic is also not ours. This means a pretty dramatic nerf, if you are suppressed you can not heal with med bag. Well look at HC, most server have to put a sniper limit because one set of weapons is completely overpowered compared to the others.
BigPapaDean Posted October 16, 2014 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1211 Topics Per Day: 0.22 Content Count: 6554 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 4430 Achievement Points: 63664 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Wednesday at 01:06 AM Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Posted October 16, 2014 and I spent my money for this BS of a game why? I promise you never again! Awards
Sonovabich Posted October 16, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5198 Achievement Points: 131537 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 8 Device: Windows Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) and I spent my money for this BS of a game why? I promise you never again! You only played with us once, found out you can't run around knifing at ridiculous speeds like in Cod5 and the Ace mod, got your arse handed to you and left and we have not seen you since, you have no idea how this game works at all lol. Edited October 16, 2014 by Sonovabich JAYsus_NL, JohnnyDos and The Flush 3
OddJob001 Posted October 16, 2014 Member ID: 3113 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 6 Topic Count: 245 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1228 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 722 Achievement Points: 9622 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 22, 2015 Birthday: 06/15/1980 Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) # Edited October 16, 2014 by OddJob001
JohnnyDos Posted October 16, 2014 Member ID: 77 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 111 Topic Count: 1018 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7527 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 9175 Achievement Points: 69486 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 47 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 8, 2020 Posted October 16, 2014 and I spent my money for this BS of a game why? I promise you never again! What?Your an expert now?You have 0 stats on our 3 servers from Gametracker.
mouselad Posted October 16, 2014 Member ID: 20902 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 11 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1279 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 819 Achievement Points: 9614 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/16/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 15, 2016 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Posted October 16, 2014 So are these changes on the CTE yet? has anyone tried them if they are? how badly does it effect gameplay?
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