Mossticles Posted November 26, 2015 Member ID: 21410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 77 Achievement Points: 613 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/14/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted November 26, 2015 Facebook's making money with stolen contents Freebooting 1 Freebooting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sitting-Duc Posted November 26, 2015 Member ID: 561 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 84 Topic Count: 502 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5334 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 4610 Achievement Points: 41340 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 29 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 08:31 PM Birthday: 04/06/1992 Device: Windows Share Posted November 26, 2015 Except the example in that video Facebook wasn't in the wrong.. it was the person uploading the video. Additionally the Facebook and YouTube advertising models are different when it comes to where the money goes and how it is earned/collected. I believe that the intent of that video was not to highlight any wrongdoing by Facebook but to those that actually upload the videos and to give advice on preventative measures. The same exact thing 'Freebooting' is done on YouTube itself. It is neither Facebook or YouTube at fault but the users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
7Toes Posted November 27, 2015 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 57 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27249 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Share Posted November 27, 2015 WTF does this have to do with milking ducks lmfao TBB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Mossticles Posted November 27, 2015 Member ID: 21410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 77 Achievement Points: 613 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/14/1972 Device: Windows Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Except the example in that video Facebook wasn't in the wrong.. it was the person uploading the video. Additionally the Facebook and YouTube advertising models are different when it comes to where the money goes and how it is earned/collected. I believe that the intent of that video was not to highlight any wrongdoing by Facebook but to those that actually upload the videos and to give advice on preventative measures. The same exact thing 'Freebooting' is done on YouTube itself. It is neither Facebook or YouTube at fault but the users. The point is that Facebook purposely makes it extremely complicated to take the video down again. The longer it's up, the more money they make with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sitting-Duc Posted November 27, 2015 Member ID: 561 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 84 Topic Count: 502 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5334 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 4610 Achievement Points: 41340 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 29 Joined: 10/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 08:31 PM Birthday: 04/06/1992 Device: Windows Share Posted November 27, 2015 The point is that Facebook purposely makes it extremely complicated to take the video down again. The longer it's up, the more money they make with it. So what would your suggestion be on the changes to be made if you could? Once you create a service as big as Facebook you are naturally going to hit a man hours barrier that means you cannot process every request sent in, especially if multiple requests are sent in for the same reason. Increasing the requirements and conditions for such a request allows a mitigation of invalid requests to be made. In the end the consumer drives the companies to become harsher and the companies are forced to hide behind such processes as DMCA. I do not think it as black and white as that video makes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
papithegun Posted November 27, 2015 Member ID: 20800 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 15 Topic Count: 130 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 394 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 323 Achievement Points: 3820 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/14/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2022 Birthday: 01/13/1950 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Don't have facebook and probably will never join Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Mossticles Posted November 28, 2015 Member ID: 21410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 77 Achievement Points: 613 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/14/1972 Device: Windows Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 So what would your suggestion be on the changes to be made if you could? Once you create a service as big as Facebook you are naturally going to hit a man hours barrier that means you cannot process every request sent in, especially if multiple requests are sent in for the same reason. Increasing the requirements and conditions for such a request allows a mitigation of invalid requests to be made. In the end the consumer drives the companies to become harsher and the companies are forced to hide behind such processes as DMCA. I do not think it as black and white as that video makes out. Youtube isn't small either, but they take down contents very quickly - within a day - if you rightfully complain. Facebook is clearly stalling on purpose - as stated in both videos. Fair would be to get the rightful owner of the content the advertising money they deserve and to punish the uploader. But thats not gonna happen. Good that Facebook and others wont have it that easy anymore in the EU after the Vienna verdict. They wont be allowed to store datas of EU citizens in the US anymore (in case you didn't know). Since law suits like this can be successful, I hope someone will sue them for their sharing illegal contents pracitce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted November 28, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted November 28, 2015 Unless youtube recently got much better you dont need to actually have reasonable proof of a violation. They just take someones word for it. 'Someone' meaning media companies or their lawyers that have no concept of 'fair use' and using materials for things like critical review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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