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Remember folks,it's super easy to misinterpret written text.You can easily miss a posters genuine intent i.e. sarcasm,dry humour or sometimes ones thoughts just don't translate to text well.If in doubt try xfire or vent and hear it face to face 8 times out of 10 it was a misunderstanding.If someone tells an admin which map and where the glitch is,I'm pretty sure it will get taken care of,but also these are not paid positions,and people have personal lives. I seriously doubt any of our admins would purposely leave a "bad" map on the server. Just my 2 cents(with exchange it's 1.9)Laughing

Have fun,we're all on the same team here.Wink

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*sigh* (I wasn't going to come back but...)

 

We may need to clarify our definitions...

 

Glitch vs. 'intended but not obvious feature'

 

Here's what I think is a glitch (and verified by yours truly, but never used thereafter):

 

Map Name: Warehouse

Glitch: If you go the the area to the right of the largest warehouse building there are two trucks backed up to the wall pretty tight to the building. If you jump up on the back of the left truck and then jump up on the back wall you can jump down between the building and the back edge of the map. This area will drop you down below the map and from there you can kill without being seen. I found this when I jumped up to 'perch' on the little corner there and fell into the gap.

 

Now I don't know if anyone else has done this or found it yet, but that is definately a glitch that would be illegal inmo. I believe I mentioned this in a post about a month back btw.

 

Ok...so what is an 'intended but not obvious feature'?

 

Map: Warlord

Feature: Escape the compound through the large back gates where the trucks are lined up by jumping over the tank traps. From here you have access to all the dunes and can shoot into the compound and kill players. BUT they can also shoot at you and kill you from inside the compound.

 

That to me is the difference between a glitch and an 'exploit' of feature of the map that the map maker intentionally left in.

 

Now, it does get somewhat harder to judge on a map like Corregidor where you can very easily climb the mountains surrounding the map 'proper' and kill from up there. You can also be killed, but it is not so obvious where the shooter is as it is on the map Warlord.

 

Both Warlord and Corregidor and similar to Cabentuan in my opinion in that you can really work the outer edges of the maps but it is very difficult to counter attack because of either the walls, the barbed wire (difficult if not impossilble to shoot through), or the vegetation.

 

Also, in the last three maps I mentioned, these areas are really not "outside the map" in my opinion. They are on the border of the map as intended by the map makers.

 

There are others I'm sure but I have to go for now.

 

May not have helped but...

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damn it seems like some people are really workin hard to find these spots to much time on there hands i believe lmao

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OK Mongrel I just found out about Warlord today But I never heard about mp_warehouse till now.

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hmmm them last three maps mongrel said are ok by me and other cod5 maps have some really tough spots to get to but i think all good cept for glitches where get behind or under map which one can easily tell when there, which currently i know of none.

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ahhh...well...erm...

 

My intention was not to see Warlord removed-but it's OK by me.

 

My intention was only to use it as an example of the difference between a glitch and a 'feature' if you will. Many of us-me included-have "been to the dunes" in Warlord, so much so that I thought everyone knew about it by now. (Admins have alos played from out there giving it respectability and the seal of approval).

 

Again, my intention was not to bitch about Warlord, I have no problem with that one. Corregidor is a much more likely candidate I believe because you really cannot tell someone is up there unless you really look hard for them. I'm also not here to drop a dime on anyone either so please don't take it that way.

 

Also, while we are all here, what about Derailed? You can jump over the fence all over the place and get into most of the houses surrounding the map and kill from them. Maybe we need a decision on that one? Again, I think it's intended (because it's so easy to do it) by the mapmaker but what say ye?

 

 

back to the doghouse....

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Hey maybe this is happening because we probably weren't ment to be able to jump so high and run so fast.Remember Bolts you couldn't do the same things as on DM. Bet on Stock speed lot of this stuff wouldn't be happening.But to me then it would get boring.Too slow.

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When I find places like that I let others know. There is onemap you can get inside the tank turrets and not be seen. If someone asks me how I got there I tell them to make things all equal. The people I have a problem with are the ones that will not tell after you ask them. Like the guy we call spider man because he climbs up walls nobody else can. He will not talk. I would like to see a rule that if you don't answer a member or Admin on a questionable act. that they would be "temp band"

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Hehe Spiderman, and we all know who that is.Laughing

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That is true Boomslang lets us know when he finds things like that and we appreciate it then we discuss how bad the glitch or whatever we want to call it is and we see if it is worth getting rid of the map.That usually depends on wether you can kill or be killed or can also get in there to kill.But he is also right that people don't tell us how or where that glitch is which makes it unfair.Good point Boomslang.Now if we can get spiderman to talk.

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T BALL i hav'nt got any issues with you but have plenty with what you are saying, your first post said " I have seen many (plural) and have heard of members showing others where (glitches) they were and using them" now your second post says " A person (singular) that was not a clan member was outside the map and i asked them not to do it and was told i was showed it by a clan member" make your mind up first you had personally seen with your own eyes MANY and then you say you only saw A PERSON . It seems like all your posts on this subject you are moaning about maps not being right, players not being right, admins not being right (the powers that be know about it and do nothing ) why don't we just do away with the cod5 server, will that make you happy, when i play i do it for fun, to have a laugh and a chat with the other players and members, why can't people just have fun on these servers instead of bitching all the time.Yell

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bitch n moan , bitch n moan, bitch n moan!!!! Theres a few!!! HAHAHA

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Damit all its all good .

Bullshit!

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what the fuck, the only way i get any frickin kills in game is using bettys and marty. coz recently all anyone has to do is look at me an i die. dont take them out leave it alone

please

please

pretty please

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i don't like marty, but i've been fucked by it to many times not to use it

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damn i gotta put my sig back on-i look naked!

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Personally, I would like to see the noob tubes go away.

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They must.I hear nothing but compliments about our COD 5 server Wahoo.Plus the server fills up everyday pretty much.So they must enjoy comming to play here.Yes and some of the weapons are weak I use a pistol and I get kills it's a lot harder to kill but I just go for fun I'm usually always in last place cause of the way I play.But I sure laugh a lot.I use all the weapons and I don't care about hiding in places where no one can see me.(not a camper)If anything is phony it's the dead silence.If you can show me how to stay perfectly silent with a ton of gear on and running at full speed then I will believe it.But that is a perk.What are we to do if we don't like the way XI set up their servers?Go somewhere else I guess.But I have heard of no complaints about the way XI runs it's servers.Pretty damn good I'd say or you wouldn't be playing here either.Now just get in there in start shooting how you do.LOL & Happy Bunny Hopping.

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ah man....why did you have to resurrect this old rag?

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yep dont bitch here or have a idea unless it came from the top just be quiet lol.

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Sounds like you have a few problems with this clan 7toes.

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Everyone has their thing, it just sucks it's just not mine on this server setup, not a big deal though and yes I do "Go somewhere else".

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Oh by the way the Vet Server is very well balanced,

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THIS SERVER WILL STAY THE FUCKING WAY IT IS AND I FUCKING LOVE IT. I NEVER HERE ANYONE

FUCKING BITCHING OH WELL MAYBE SKILLET BUT FUCK DAM IT BULLSHIT THAT IS HIM. Surprised SO FUCKING

GET YOUR BIG PANTS ON AND PLAY THE GAME. OR YOU CAN ALWAYS TRY YOUR OWN SERVER I KNOW

A FEW PEEPS THAT HAVE LOL. WELL BACK TO THE GAME FOR ME GREAT JOB ALL. Yell

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