Random freezes and FPS frops

[Nycz]

Anyone else experience random freezes for split seconds including the mouse when just opening basic programs on the PC like display settings or anything? Mine has been doing that plus really bad fps drops when navigating menus within games. PGA 2k23 going from 400fps down to 75-100fps just changing menus. I have gone from windows 11 to 10. Different cups of Intel to ryzen with fresh windows installs. Nvidia to AMD GPU. Different ram sticks and driver versions yet still persist to make me think it's a Windows update of some sort. Any ideas?

[BUDMAN]

Just curious, but I had similar problem and it ended up being a bad cable... 

[Nycz]

Which cable?

[BUDMAN]

ethernet cable

[Nycz]

That's ode. My Ethernet cable is new but maybe it's bad. Never thought of checking that cable since speeds were normal

[BUDMAN]

Mine were too... 

[BlackRose]

what are your FPS?? maybe its to high for that program or to low??

[Nycz]

I don't get it that much in cod but I do in battlefield 2042, from 190 down to 60. In PGA 400 down to 75 even if I lock frames. Then the others drops are just on desktop then opening up a settings window or any program.

[KaptCrunch]

other thing  how old is your GPU, may need a refresh the Thermal paste and pads for memory if have them. the overheat will slow down the GPU.

Note if no memory pads be careful of paste not to get on connections, just the ceramic of the chip. if do when boot back up will have a 4bit looking screen.

will have wash good with ISO alchol and many Q-tips. 

[MikelMahou]

On 1/24/2025 at 6:00 PM, Nycz said:

Anyone else experience random freezes for split seconds including the mouse when just opening basic programs on the PC like display settings or anything? Mine has been doing that plus really bad fps drops when navigating menus within games. PGA 2k23 going from 400fps down to 75-100fps just changing menus. I have gone from windows 11 to 10. Different cups of Intel to ryzen with fresh windows installs. Nvidia to AMD GPU. Different ram sticks and driver versions yet still persist to make me think it's a Windows update of some sort. Any ideas?

Hi there!

Lets see,  did you use afterburner or any msi program to power up or enchance the graphics adjust? if you do, that is the problem- Try this:

 read the post here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9f1iu7/psa_micro_stuttering_a_lot_turn_off_power/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&embed_host_url=https://www.xtremeidiots.com/index.php

 

You can take a look this video too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQH3DYNboM0

 

Also, if you dont use Afterburner or any other similar program, the main cause will be the power control or power dispatched to the GPU in the settings.

There are some mainboards, like asus, Gygabite and AsRock that auto assign certain amount of power to GPUs. Also an incorrect settings in Power settings under windows Control Panel cause this problems.

Check in Windows Control Panel the Power adjust to GPU and CPU, probably is called like Advanced Power Settings and create your better choice to evite those shutters

 

Other good idea is delete and uninstall completly the drivers fro the GPU and the MotherBoard and reinstall all them.

Use the DDU(Display Driver Uninstaller) for delete all drivers from your GPU, do it in safe mode for better experience.

You can download DDU here:

https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/

 

And finally, if none of those works, check your main power supply, cause maybe has a leak or problem and has not enought power to power up all your system, or as simple as an electric issue with that.

 

Hope helps

 

of course it would help if you can show your system specs to check better all that. List the system you use components, motherboard, gpu,cpu...

 

Greetings

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 25 by MikelMahou

[Nycz]

At work right now but I think the issue is my old monitor that is acting as my secondary monitor. I forgot it didn't do well with display port for some reason and had to use HDMI.

[Nycz]

Last comment didnt make a difference.  I do know the newer ethernet cable i bought a few weeks ago was a Cat 8 from staples. Could that really be an issue? Also since my router is in kitchen where the only coax port works for my internet should i use a long coax cable to put modem near pc or long ethernet cable?

[KaptCrunch]

The maximum length of a Cat5e or Cat6 Ethernet cable is about 295 ft. (90 m), plus up to 16 ft. (5 m) of patch cable on either end, for a total of 328 feet or 100 meters. Beyond this, the signal begins to degrade, reducing the speed and reliability of the connection.

OTHER CHECK    IF CABLE IS STRAIGHT OR A CROSSOVER

[Barron]

Ethernet cables alone do not explain the drop in 200 odd fps, I had to login to the website just to say that

Its too huge of a drop in fps to be internet related as internet doesn't and shouldn't affect fps in game. The only other thing that would drop your fps by that much that I can think of if you are running the games in "windowed mode" by mistake and not realizing rather than full screen.

Can you post your PC Specs and tell us are you using any antivirus or are you just using windows defender. (nothing wrong with windows defender ofc)

Nah something doesn't sound right with the drop in FPS being that large

Edited January 31 by Barron

[Barron]

4 minutes ago, Barron said:

 

 

Edited January 31 by Barron
Quoted rather than edited, give back delete comment features ffs lol

[Nycz]

CPU: Ryzen 7 7700

GPU: MSI RTX 4070 Ventus X2

RAM: 32GB 5600mhz ddr5

 

 

 

Happened on an Intel setup too with Core i& 14700k with same ram and gpu. i haved tried different drivers, different gpus including amd, different power supplies. I don't remember this happening when i first got the system.

[Nycz]

What about a failing m.2 drive. My OS is on one my old laptop had which wasn't anything fancy

 

[KaptCrunch]

missing key Info,   like motherboard  model and the Rev:1.xx  that printed near top PCI-e slot  or a corner of MB

Nycz  Note you must match REV of MB for that is hardware venders change out of the MB model #, don't confuse bio's version to model for that is software.

lets say you opted MB XZ3K  and on Motherboard say Rev:1.00 and you think XZ3K Rev:2.00 is better update. what really happed  Rev:1 was a chevy motor and  Rev:2 was a Ford motor.  you flashed the 2 into the 1 and the instruction  to the chips are lost an only get a black screen, no post.

other thing win 11 uefi bios and if using bit locker get your key recorded before any updating bios, its a long one 48-digit need that to run flash program.

looks micro code for the cpu is out dated.

Note: use MB own update app to check what is needed. 

M2 SSD go to manufactors site and use their software tools to check drive, Note: back up any data you want before run test program.

Edited February 5 by KaptCrunch

[Nycz]

Msi B650 tomahawk wifi ver 1.1

Don't see anything on manufacturers website about bios updates per rev

I did check software for the m2 and says it's fine......darn.

Edited February 5 by Nycz

[KaptCrunch]

MSI TOMAHAWK

LOOK HERE  look they dropped the REV on this MB  tell me is that your MB in picture ?

if is  i see this

AMD Chipset Driver7.01.08.1292025-01-2263.83 MB release date Jan 2 2025

Download their updater  MSI Center and use it to check firmware

[Nycz]

yeah that is it. i have always ignored the motherboard software in past and just get updates from the website directly. What do you mean they dropped the REV? your wording is odd for me.

[Nycz]

Also being i have had same issue on intel cpu with a different motherboard probably means this isn't the fix 

[KaptCrunch]

Correct   then hardware/software or power source issues 

used same RAM sticks ? or power supply. Question you have UPS unit with AVR (automatic voltage regulation) ?  mite have a dirty power source from the wall outlet or can borrow one to check.

has anytime you hear static from audio output or room lighting go dim for second ? are signs of bad power source and grounding issues.

other a bent pin on CPU socket, weak tension PCI-e pins, ditry ram contacts and wrong firmware/driver.

has your Cat got jealous.... for your not paying attention to them and chew your cables? 

have seen this the case is warped/twisted, remove Motherboard from case and play a game to see if repeat issue.

Edited February 5 by KaptCrunch

[Nycz]

I have tried different ram sticks, motherboard and psu.  Literally all parts swapped out. I did have some grounding issues due to using wrong size screw uolder for the motherboard in case jut that's fixed now. I am just blaming paranoia at this point 

 

[Barron]

5 hours ago, Nycz said:

I have tried different ram sticks, motherboard and psu.  Literally all parts swapped out. I did have some grounding issues due to using wrong size screw uolder for the motherboard in case jut that's fixed now. I am just blaming paranoia at this point 

 

I had a similar sort of issue years ago with audio latency were it would slow down music, mouse movement and everything if I had other applications open. I bought new SSD's, PSU's and GPU's and all.  I had electricians and all out to the house to test the sockets and they found absolutely nothing. It turned out to be my fucking paid AV ZoneAlarm, I uninstalled it and everything went back to normal, I'm now just using windows defender.

If it is latency I used this program: https://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

If it goes into the red after several tasks then there is something up and you will need to pin point the problem, it will pinpoint the program causing the latency too. For me it was software and not hardware related but it still did not point to ZoneAlarm as far as I remembered or did it , been years ago I cant remember fully. Anyway it was solved in the end after months of BS wrecking my head

 

 

 

Edited February 5 by Barron