Mekketom Posted June 26, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: Windows Posted June 26, 2014 i got a 97 sub.. 6.5 TD. i have changed the drums. brake shoes. all wires to the parking brake. all springs for the brakes.. . everything with the rear brakes is new.. Now the rear brakes lock up. have drag. and going warm. i have tried adjusting the shoes both in and out towards the drum. then the parking brake wont work.but still they drag. cause of the EU directive the P-brake must work. i have lifted the truck back up. taken the drums of.. everything looks fine. adjusted it and it turns smooth and fine with no drag. start driving and it begins again... i have started car with the drums of.. to see if the master cyl build up pressure when the engine runs.. without using the pedal. and it don`t. so its not that. . WTH is wrong? help help... Awards
BUDMAN Posted June 26, 2014 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7096 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4633 Achievement Points: 60339 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 29 minutes ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Posted June 26, 2014 Hit me up on xfire and or t/s....... maybe able to help you Sir. Awards
7Toes Posted June 26, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted June 26, 2014 do they start dragging after you are driving and hit the brakes and release them? Awards
BUDMAN Posted June 26, 2014 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7096 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4633 Achievement Points: 60339 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 29 minutes ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Posted June 26, 2014 To many questions to ask that's why I said hit me up on xife.... lol btw FU 7Toes sir loaderXI 1 Awards
Mekketom Posted June 26, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: Windows Author Posted June 26, 2014 yeah.. from my house down to the main road there is a steep hill. so i must use them. the road is gravel. and if i shock the brake pedal just a bit. the rear wheels lock up. and they start to drag.... Awards
Mekketom Posted June 26, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: Windows Author Posted June 26, 2014 added you on x-fire Budman Awards
Damage_inc- Posted June 26, 2014 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Posted June 26, 2014 on some suburbans over the years ive replaced the proportioning valve when problems like this have occured .or sometimes rear brakes not adjusted properly/-adjust up and then spin tire if slows down just after 2 rotations then its ok as i remember-gl ANGUS 1 Awards
KaptCrunch Posted June 26, 2014 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4867 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4043 Achievement Points: 39389 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 50 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted June 26, 2014 replace the backing plate on wheel that locks up Awards
SPUCK Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 1480 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 10 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 34 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 13 Achievement Points: 295 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 2 Birthday: 04/15/1956 Device: Windows Posted June 27, 2014 Has this been resolved? With "modern" brakes they self-adjust. You back up and pump the brakes and they tighten up to a point based on the 'servo function' as it works when going backwards. Since this wasn't a problem prior to your replacing everything it's likely something you did. I believe it's possible to reverse the automatic adjusting bits so they work wrong, as in adjusting as you go FORWARD. This could cause what's happening since they are manually adjusted fine but then tighten up as soon as you apply them going forward. You could try adjusting them manually again then back down the road gently pumping the brakes and see if the bind-up doesn't happen. Awards
Mekketom Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: Windows Author Posted June 27, 2014 drove the car to work to day... stil a no go. the backing plates where cleaned there was no damage to surface the shoes touch. i have lossend everything.. the p-wires are loose. shoes adjusted all inn from the drum. the self adjuster are fitted like it should... i have to work this weekend so i will look at it more on monday. and its both wheels.... same story. Awards
KaptCrunch Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4867 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4043 Achievement Points: 39389 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 50 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted June 27, 2014 then look at the shoes for are primary and secondary the long shoe goes facing the rear and short faces the front maybe the set you gotten aren't correct but still look at the ancor pin is parrelle to axle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds5bwkwgQDA loaderXI 1 Awards
KaptCrunch Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4867 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4043 Achievement Points: 39389 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 50 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted June 27, 2014 forgot to say the adjusters are left and right thread so make sure that then looking at when brakes all together an that downward stroke of adjuster arm is opening (getting longer) adjuster as in video the back side is upward Awards
Mekketom Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: Windows Author Posted June 27, 2014 the shoes are the correct ones.. they fit the drum.. and primary/secondary is fitted where they should be. i cant open the video too see it.... Awards
ldoz Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 3530 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 23 Topic Count: 42 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 257 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 236 Achievement Points: 2540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23 Birthday: 05/07/1958 Device: Windows Posted June 27, 2014 You may have bad rear brake hose Acting like a check valve When the brakes are locked up or draging open one of the rear wheel cylinder bleeders to see if fluid comes out and the rear wheels turn easy if sso the brake hose is bad KaptCrunch 1 Awards
Mekketom Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: Windows Author Posted June 27, 2014 Will do Idoz... Awards
BUDMAN Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 800 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 152 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7096 Content Per Day: 1.26 Reputation: 4633 Achievement Points: 60339 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/27/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 29 minutes ago Birthday: 05/29/1957 Device: Windows Posted June 27, 2014 Was there a problem b4 the brake job ??? Awards
loaderXI Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 252 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 72 Topic Count: 396 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 6438 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 6581 Achievement Points: 54654 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 32 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 03:49 AM Birthday: 03/22/1965 Device: Windows Posted June 27, 2014 then look at the shoes for are primary and secondary the long shoe goes facing the rear and short faces the front maybe the set you gotten aren't correct but still look at the ancor pin is parrelle to axle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds5bwkwgQDA Pondering this today and thought poss same thing Awards
KaptCrunch Posted June 27, 2014 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4867 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4043 Achievement Points: 39389 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 50 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted June 27, 2014 mek you say both wheels lock up ? then its MASTER CYLINDER not releasing pistons in wheel cyldinders Awards
Mekketom Posted June 28, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: Windows Author Posted June 28, 2014 its both wheels yes.. no problem before change.. only that they where worn out.... il will post on monday when i had the chance to look at it again... Awards
SPUCK Posted June 29, 2014 Member ID: 1480 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 10 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 34 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 13 Achievement Points: 295 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 2 Birthday: 04/15/1956 Device: Windows Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) It's the adjusters. It's the adjusters. It's the adjusters. Oh before I forget to mention it: It's the adjusters. You have them in backwards.. They don't look ANY DIFFERENT when they're in backwards. You can NOT just look at them. You really need to test them as KaptCrunch describes. You can test them from the outside of the vehicle, (without removing the drums), thru the adjusting windows, if you read his description very carefully and then reverse things, as appropriate, since thru the window is backwards from his standard installation description. Edited June 29, 2014 by SPUCK Awards
Mule Posted June 29, 2014 Member ID: 390 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 32 Topic Count: 411 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 4252 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3052 Achievement Points: 35639 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 28, 2024 Birthday: 05/08/1959 Device: Windows Posted June 29, 2014 Fuck all that work cut a hole in the floor go Flintstone style! Damage_inc- 1 Awards
Mekketom Posted June 30, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: Windows Author Posted June 30, 2014 Now they work..... i took it all of again... looked at the backplate... two three areas where the shoe rest at. where worn at the edge... so the shoe would drop into that groove and stay there.. making the corner of the shoe drag the drum and dragging the other shoe down. so they started locking the brakes. i welded up the grooves.. and used a grinder to make it smooth and nice... i also fitted the shoes more accurate to the drum.. by using sandpaper and allot of patience. now they follow the curve of the drum 100%. the final and fine adjustment will i do tomorrow. took it for a test drive earlier to day.... ohh happy days.... KaptCrunch, loaderXI, Wild Fire and 2 others 5 Awards
KaptCrunch Posted July 1, 2014 Member ID: 389 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 48 Topic Count: 315 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4867 Content Per Day: 0.85 Reputation: 4043 Achievement Points: 39389 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 50 Joined: 09/14/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 1 hour ago Birthday: 01/01/1970 Device: Windows Posted July 1, 2014 Mek your done no adjustment needed good job a couple stops they are adjusted Awards
rookido Posted July 2, 2014 Member ID: 5785 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 172 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 74 Achievement Points: 1098 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/27/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 19, 2024 Birthday: 01/01/1970 Posted July 2, 2014 Are you mechanically sound? better try the vehicle manual to see what you did incorrectly. Brake jobs are not too complicated, especially replacing the shoes, springs, drums, or disk. Awards
Mekketom Posted July 3, 2014 Member ID: 2082 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 59 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1180 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 508 Achievement Points: 10096 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/30/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 22 Birthday: 10/31/1980 Device: Windows Author Posted July 3, 2014 So a trained mechanic cant ask for some advise? BUDMAN 1 Awards
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