BurnnBright Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 22339 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 167 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1715 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 679 Achievement Points: 12965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 01/13/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 7 Birthday: 03/20/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted August 10, 2015 http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/08/windows-10-spies-on-emails-images-credit-cards-more/ LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER WINDOWS 10 SPIES ON EMAILS, IMAGES, CREDIT CARDS, MORE Software 'collecting data on much of what you do' Published: 5 days ago image: http://mobile.wnd.com/files/2011/10/runruh.jpg author-imageBOB UNRUH About | Email | Archive Americans are still waiting for a resolution to the controversy that erupted when it was discovered that the National Security Agency was spying on everyone’s telephones – lawsuits still are pending and Congress is working on making changes to the law. Now they’re learning that while the NSA was collecting telephone data, the newest version of the ubiquitous Windows software, version 10, is watching everything that’s on their computer. “From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company saves customers’ basic information – name, contact details, passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics,” explains a new report from the online Newsweek. “But it also digs a bit deeper,” the report says. “Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders,” the warning explains. “Furthermore, ‘your typed and handwritten words’ are collected.’” All of the warnings come from the company’s software privacy statement, which includes the statement that Microsoft collects information “to provide you a personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type or write.” Alec Meer at the RockPaperShotgun blog warned it’s not something that should be ignored. What’s America coming to? Find out in “Police State U.S.A.’ “Unless you pay close attention to the fluffy options offered when you first install Microsoft’s new operating system, it’s going to quietly track your behavior and use it to fire targeted ads at you, as well as keeping tabs on your location history, data from messages, calendars, contacts and God knows what else.” The blog noted that “some of this stuff” can be turned off, but the key point is that people “aren’t so hot” about paying for tools to access the Web and such, so “the money comes from harvesting data and flogging it to advertisers and other organizations who want to know exactly what we’re all up to online.” He continued, “If you ever wondered why they’ve made the Windows 10 upgrade free to Win 7 & 8 users, here’s one possible answer. Windows 10 has all sorts of user tracking baked right in.” The Daily Mail reported another complication with the software. The update to Windows 10, the report said, “automatically made [a man's] porn collection into a slideshow and used it as a screensaver. And to make matters worse, the malfunction was discovered by his wife, who was greeted by the explicit images first thing in the morning.” The report said a user posted the story online so others would not repeat the mistake, which reportedly happened when the images were saved into the “My Pictures” folder. It is from that folder the software draws data to build slideshows, the report said. Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/08/windows-10-spies-on-emails-images-credit-cards-more/#sTB1BUvplSXTzZ9t.99 hxtr and YACCster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
BurnnBright Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 22339 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 167 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1715 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 679 Achievement Points: 12965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 01/13/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 7 Birthday: 03/20/1972 Device: Windows Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 If you don't read anything else, read the next to last paragraph. I spit my drink out when I read that. eidolonFIRE and BigPapaDean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted August 10, 2015 If you don't read anything else, read the next to last paragraph. I spit my drink out when I read that. mehehehehehee .... hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 10, 2015 Yep... so now I try and not do illegal things anymore... on Windows 10 that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 10, 2015 yep... just like our phones. “But they do mean that not quite so much information about you will be gathered and sold, and also that the ads you do see won’t be ‘relevant’ to what algorithms have decided your interests are.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hxtr Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 10, 2015 What is funny my dad and I have gone round an round on this subject from the NSA to 911 and then some. Him being a OSI Agent at one time the government could not do wrong... in a sense. So he asks me two days ago about 10. I say lets upgrade you.. then he sends me this same WMD same post and says he is worried about his privacy.To myself I said.. and now you are worried? Now your privacy is a problem? Now you are concerned? Now you give a shit? Go fuck yourself!Then I said to him.. yep.. but you will have to have it someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPapaDean Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 1128 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 78 Topic Count: 1200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6529 Content Per Day: 1.25 Reputation: 4411 Achievement Points: 63453 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 02/13/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 06:24 AM Birthday: 10/21/1954 Device: Windows Share Posted August 10, 2015 Tho you can turn a lot of that stuff off but not all. It also says in another report and while you are installing 10 that there is a part where if you turn it off they well turn it back on if its off nor very long. That should be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 10, 2015 Tho you can turn a lot of that stuff off but not all. It also says in another report and while you are installing 10 that there is a part where if you turn it off they well turn it back on if its off nor very long. That should be illegal. Nothing is illegal if you accept the terms. Just like every application on your phone. What we need to do is get Linux to support everything we do and say, "FUCK YOU Microsoft!" eidolonFIRE and BigPapaDean 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossticles Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 21410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 77 Achievement Points: 613 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/14/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted August 10, 2015 There are quite a few things you can do about the spying. 1st, install Windows offline with a local account. 2nd, turn off all spying option during installation 3rd, use "Destroy Windows 10 Spying" to block all remaining data transfer or manually edit the hosts file. I installed 10 only on one laptop for testing so far. For all I can say it is no improvement compared to the pretty perfect combination of Windows 8.1 with Start8. I still need to use Start8 in Win 10, cos the 10 start menu is still horrible imo. For example when I type "energy" to quickly find the energy settings, I get a Metro style energy settings page and have to click at least twice again to get to the setting I want. With start8 I never see any Metro Style pages at all and go straight to the good old Control Panel settings windows. Also finding programs is quite hard with this new start menu. I have to type more letters to find them than with start8. At some point I will upgrade all my windows pc's for sure, but only with Start8 and no personal data transfer and without ms account or synchronization of any kind. hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted August 10, 2015 There are quite a few things you can do about the spying. 1st, install Windows offline with a local account. 2nd, turn off all spying option during installation 3rd, use "Destroy Windows 10 Spying" to block all remaining data transfer or manually edit the hosts file. I installed 10 only on one laptop for testing so far. For all I can say it is no improvement compared to the pretty perfect combination of Windows 8.1 with Start8. I still need to use Start8 in Win 10, cos the 10 start menu is still horrible imo. For example when I type "energy" to quickly find the energy settings, I get a Metro style energy settings page and have to click at least twice again to get to the setting I want. With start8 I never see any Metro Style pages at all and go straight to the good old Control Panel settings windows. Also finding programs is quite hard with this new start menu. I have to type more letters to find them than with start8. At some point I will upgrade all my windows pc's for sure, but only with Start8 and no personal data transfer and without ms account or synchronization of any kind. so what ur saying is that windows 10 is great because it gets back to the good ol menus... what a breakthrough! lol. Reminds me of the coke-classic scam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossticles Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 21410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 77 Achievement Points: 613 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/14/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) so what ur saying is that windows 10 is great because it gets back to the good ol menus... what a breakthrough! lol. Reminds me of the coke-classic scam No, thats exactly what I'm NOT saying. Windows 10 is NOT better than Windows 8.1 with Start8. Start8 is a 3rd party Start Menu: http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/ I still use Start8 in Windows 10 cos without it sucks. Hope that clears things up Edited August 10, 2015 by M0stlyHarmless hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
HarryWeezer Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 20166 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 611 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 7653 Content Per Day: 1.97 Reputation: 7228 Achievement Points: 53668 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 36 Joined: 10/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 02:23 PM Birthday: 10/16/1946 Device: Windows Share Posted August 10, 2015 Holy shit. Came home early to hear that Cortana personal assistant thing on my computer talking to the one on my wife's computer which sits right next to mine. It was asking the other one if it had my wife's debit card password and if it knew her savings account number. They are plotting against us. I took a hammer to both systems. Bastards. Sammy, d34d_d0g, *fry* and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Holy shit. Came home early to hear that Cortana personal assistant thing on my computer talking to the one on my wife's computer which sits right next to mine. It was asking the other one if it had my wife's debit card password and if it knew her savings account number. They are plotting against us. I took a hammer to both systems. Bastards. They are cheating on you man... hxtr, iboomboom and BigPapaDean 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iboomboom Posted August 10, 2015 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.87 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Macintosh Share Posted August 10, 2015 Windows did no such thing to my pictures and videos. Only the ones in the default folders. So, the question is who in their right mind would be dumb enough to keep a dirty picture collection in default folders. Also, don't people just stream stuff these days? Johnny3Time, hxtr and eidolonFIRE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Windows did no such thing to my pictures and videos. Only the ones in the default folders. So, the question is who in their right mind would be dumb enough to keep a dirty picture collection in default folders. Also, don't people just stream stuff these days? streaming is low quality though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iboomboom Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.87 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Macintosh Share Posted August 11, 2015 streaming is low quality though... Then you don't know how to find the good stuff Johnny3Time and hxtr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Then you don't know how to find the good stuff On the contrary. By far the best stuff is in torrents if you know where the right ones are. Nothing like watching in 4k full data rate. ... at least I assume.... BigPapaDean and hxtr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iboomboom Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.87 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 13 hours ago Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Macintosh Share Posted August 11, 2015 On the contrary. By far the best stuff is in torrents if you know where the right ones are. Nothing like watching in 4k full data rate. ... at least I assume.... Good for you... you win! BigPapaDean and eidolonFIRE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Good for you... you win! mehehehehhee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny3Time Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 20371 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 159 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 306 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 341 Achievement Points: 2727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 1 Birthday: 06/11/1966 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2015 Windows 10 does nothing your Cellphone or Tablet isn't already doing. Except when installing on a PC you determine what libraries windows uses for pictures videos and music (unless of course you select the use express settings during setup). Don't use bing it's shite, Cortana...seriously? of course every word you say to it will go to the web, as with any voice based "assistant", along with one drive if privacy is an issue don't use it. As far as your account info goes, you don't need a Live account unless you plan on using the app store or play xbox games and you can always make a dummy acct. The difference between the NSA and Windows, windows tells you what it's doing, it's all in the EULA, you have to agree to it. iboomboom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2015 There are quite a few things you can do about the spying. 1st, install Windows offline with a local account. 2nd, turn off all spying option during installation 3rd, use "Destroy Windows 10 Spying" to block all remaining data transfer or manually edit the hosts file. I installed 10 only on one laptop for testing so far. For all I can say it is no improvement compared to the pretty perfect combination of Windows 8.1 with Start8. I still need to use Start8 in Win 10, cos the 10 start menu is still horrible imo. For example when I type "energy" to quickly find the energy settings, I get a Metro style energy settings page and have to click at least twice again to get to the setting I want. With start8 I never see any Metro Style pages at all and go straight to the good old Control Panel settings windows. Also finding programs is quite hard with this new start menu. I have to type more letters to find them than with start8. At some point I will upgrade all my windows pc's for sure, but only with Start8 and no personal data transfer and without ms account or synchronization of any kind. That is a pretty cool program. On a machine I was working on for someone saved him 100mb of RAM.. out of 2GB. So at boot it uses 600mb. Not bad. I also removed all the default apps. I hate that shit from win 8. I will run the program one a month and see if MS installs any new ones. Thank you! And for a free start fix Classic Shell supports 10. Www.classicshell.com. Mossticles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Toes Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 57 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27249 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Share Posted August 11, 2015 give 6months and hackers will have it on you tube how to turn that shit off or delete it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Mossticles Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 21410 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 77 Achievement Points: 613 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/07/14 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 18, 2023 Birthday: 04/14/1972 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2015 give 6months and hackers will have it on you tube how to turn that shit off or delete it It's already been fixed (hacked). See my post above. That is a pretty cool program. On a machine I was working on for someone saved him 100mb of RAM.. out of 2GB. So at boot it uses 600mb. Not bad. I also removed all the default apps. I hate that shit from win 8. I will run the program one a month and see if MS installs any new ones. Thank you! And for a free start fix Classic Shell supports 10. Www.classicshell.com. Yeah Classic Shell is alright. If you are willing to pay $5, there is Start10 now (which is better than all free options imo). Of course you can still use Start8 if you have it already. Btw. I did only pay once for Start8 and could install it on 9 computers using my Stardock account to register before it was complaining hxtr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3356 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4091 Achievement Points: 45298 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Online Last Seen: 8 minutes ago Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2015 What is funny my dad and I have gone round an round on this subject from the NSA to 911 and then some. Him being a OSI Agent at one time the government could not do wrong... in a sense. So he asks me two days ago about 10. I say lets upgrade you.. then he sends me this same WMD same post and says he is worried about his privacy. To myself I said.. and now you are worried? Now your privacy is a problem? Now you are concerned? Now you give a shit? Go fuck yourself! Then I said to him.. yep.. but you will have to have it someday. Yep, my dad was Military and then civilan NSA, it's why I live where I am now. Just finished my certification by a major computing device forensics vendor a couple of weeks ago, it's amazing how easy it is for us to get items, and with a little knowledge how easy it is to protect yourself from intrusion. hxtr and iboomboom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
hxtr Posted August 11, 2015 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 3.16 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129713 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Device: Windows Share Posted August 11, 2015 Yep, my dad was Military and then civilan NSA, it's why I live where I am now. Just finished my certification by a major computing device forensics vendor a couple of weeks ago, it's amazing how easy it is for us to get items, and with a little knowledge how easy it is to protect yourself from intrusion.Ask your dad if he knew Tom Macular (spelling on the last name). He ran the IT department there at the NSA in MD. He passed away prematurely a year or two ago and a great guy. I grew up around him. He was an electronics genius. When he worked for my dad in the 80's he would tell me some of the things he would do. Like building a electronic components on paper then he would build it. Cameras... transceivers... microphones and much more. The coolest thing he made I seen was a potato shooter. RIP Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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