The Flush Posted October 7, 2011 Member ID: 1106 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 33 Topic Count: 125 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 832 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 538 Achievement Points: 6778 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 06/24/1975 Posted October 7, 2011 On Nuketown...is the pool a glitch or not? Bomber and I got into an argument today because he was kneeling in the pool, not laying down, but I still couldn't see him and he killed me. I personally believe it is a glitch but wanted to get an admins word on it. I've seen Steven7500 be threatened with a ban for staying in the pool. Thoughts?
ROCKAPE Posted October 7, 2011 Member ID: 4 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 172 Topic Count: 1108 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 5192 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 3203 Achievement Points: 44036 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 4 hours ago Birthday: 08/16/1967 Device: Windows Posted October 7, 2011 The pool is an intended area of the map created by the map maker that can be used by anyone,it can be used just the same as maps that have swamps. A glitch is an area of map that the map maker did not intentionally make to be used for a gaming advantage whereupon you are able to kill the enemy and not be seen or be killed. I went into spectate to see the pool being used and although a player was being accused of using it to cheat it actually wasnt giving him an advantage and he could be hunted down and killed. Hope this helps. ROCKAPE>XI<ADM Awards
The Flush Posted October 7, 2011 Member ID: 1106 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 33 Topic Count: 125 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 832 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 538 Achievement Points: 6778 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/08/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 06/24/1975 Author Posted October 7, 2011 Ok, good enough...thanks for the clarification! Sorry for the accusation of you glitching then bomber. My bad.
Cavey Posted October 7, 2011 Member ID: 92 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2241 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 606 Achievement Points: 13358 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Birthday: 06/09/1977 Posted October 7, 2011 I totally disagree Rockape. A glitch can still be WITHIN the map, where you have a distinct advantage over your opponent. So if he was able to shoot you from within the water, however you weren't able to shoot him, then it's a glitch. We know that many maps have water where you can lay down, not be seen, shoot them, but not be shoot = glitch.
robdevil Posted October 7, 2011 Member ID: 1756 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 158 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 27 Achievement Points: 990 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 29, 2024 Birthday: 06/18/1980 Device: Windows Posted October 7, 2011 I agree with Cavey. Any place where You can see enemy but You CANT kill him<not because Your bad skills > is glitch. Problem is that when You cant shoot enemy in the water but nade can still kill him is that glitch too? Awards
hardcore Posted October 7, 2011 Member ID: 86 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 27 Topic Count: 223 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1824 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 464 Achievement Points: 13395 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 5, 2022 Birthday: 06/29/1967 Posted October 7, 2011 You would have to get more detail on who was where and try to create the problem again. This could be a thing where when shooting from the pool, you can shoot through the wall and ground as the person out of the pool can not shoot through the ground. Personally, I dout it. The guy was probably just in a position he could see him and hit the tip of his head and the other guy could not see the tip of the others head. See alot of this in black ops. You can see the tip of there head but can not hit them and the get you just because the can hit that tip of the head. Just luck. Awards
ROCKAPE Posted October 7, 2011 Member ID: 4 Group: ++++ Senior Admin Followers: 172 Topic Count: 1108 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 5192 Content Per Day: 0.90 Reputation: 3203 Achievement Points: 44036 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 4 hours ago Birthday: 08/16/1967 Device: Windows Posted October 7, 2011 I disagree totally Cavey lol. "Glitching" is the practice of a player exploiting faults in a video game's programming to achieve tasks normally impossible if the game's script runs as intended, such as running through walls or defying the game's laws of gravity. It is often used to gain an unfair advantage over other players in multiplayer video games. Awards
Bushape Posted October 7, 2011 Member ID: 839 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 18 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1334 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 64 Achievement Points: 7776 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2020 Birthday: 07/17/1958 Posted October 7, 2011 Some maps in COD5 have out of bounds areas that the game Admins consider glitches. But you can still easily get to them and shoot and also be killed, but the Admins consider them out of bounds areas and you can be kicked for using them. So my point being is that it can be a Admin call. As mentioned in previous posts before these areas do not fall into the category as glitches in my opinion. If in doubt get an Admin to tell you what is right or wrong, as sometimes it can be confusing. Awards
greywolf2 Posted October 8, 2011 Member ID: 35 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 44 Topic Count: 345 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4812 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 420 Achievement Points: 28063 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Posted October 8, 2011 There are area's on maps (such as water/ a/c ducts and such ) where you can hide and not get killed but can shoot this is considered a glitch and is dealt with the same as a map glitch. There are some maps where if you duck under the water you can not be seen or killed, but you can kill them........ Glitch.......
Labob Posted October 8, 2011 Member ID: 42 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 8389 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 6126 Achievement Points: 54469 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 01:53 PM Birthday: 01/30/1959 Device: Windows Posted October 8, 2011 Can you shoot your weapon under water in cod4 I can't remember I don't think so. I know in cod 5 nads and knives work weapons don't unless your feet touch the ground and your head shoot is above the water line. So if he's using his weapon he must have something showing. Now if the water texture stops before the bottom thats a map error and I would call the a glitch but once again if his head is in the water his weapon won't work. Other that we see to many times are models that are not clipped proberly like rocks trees and vechiles that you can walk into and hide those are glitches. Thats my experience in dealing with water. Cod2 is totally different. Awards
PigDog Posted October 8, 2011 Member ID: 222 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 88 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3847 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 1628 Achievement Points: 25635 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 1 Birthday: 02/05/1968 Device: Windows Posted October 8, 2011 greywolf2 There are area's on maps (such as water/ a/c ducts and such ) where you can hide and not get killed but can shoot this is considered a glitch and is dealt with the same as a map glitch. There are some maps where if you duck under the water you can not be seen or killed, but you can kill them........ Glitch....... Agreed. The map maker did not intend for a player to be able to kill others without being able to be killed. This happens in water on many maps and the COD4 admins generally refer to this as glitching. The water thing is not new.....and on other maps we kick people for exploiting this. Awards
hardcore Posted October 8, 2011 Member ID: 86 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 27 Topic Count: 223 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1824 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 464 Achievement Points: 13395 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 5, 2022 Birthday: 06/29/1967 Posted October 8, 2011 PigDog greywolf2 There are area's on maps (such as water/ a/c ducts and such ) where you can hide and not get killed but can shoot this is considered a glitch and is dealt with the same as a map glitch. There are some maps where if you duck under the water you can not be seen or killed, but you can kill them........ Glitch....... Agreed. The map maker did not intend for a player to be able to kill others without being able to be killed. This happens in water on many maps and the COD4 admins generally refer to this as glitching. The water thing is not new.....and on other maps we kick people for exploiting this. Yes, but you have to check the maps to see if they can be killed and remember which maps you can and cant. I think it was stated that on this paticular map, Rockape checked and he could be killed while in this pool of water so there is no glitch here. It was just luck of who shot who first. Awards
greywolf2 Posted October 8, 2011 Member ID: 35 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 44 Topic Count: 345 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4812 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 420 Achievement Points: 28063 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 11, 2020 Posted October 8, 2011 hardcore PigDog greywolf2 There are area's on maps (such as water/ a/c ducts and such ) where you can hide and not get killed but can shoot this is considered a glitch and is dealt with the same as a map glitch. There are some maps where if you duck under the water you can not be seen or killed, but you can kill them........ Glitch....... Agreed. The map maker did not intend for a player to be able to kill others without being able to be killed. This happens in water on many maps and the COD4 admins generally refer to this as glitching. The water thing is not new.....and on other maps we kick people for exploiting this. Yes, but you have to check the maps to see if they can be killed and remember which maps you can and cant. I think it was stated that on this paticular map, Rockape checked and he could be killed while in this pool of water so there is no glitch here. It was just luck of who shot who first. I am not refering the the pool just mentioning that there are maps that we know of where you can not be killed. And labob yes you can shoot from under the water.... There are maps where if you go under water you end up holding your breath--- most of them you can not shoot from. But some maps makers did not add this when they made the ones where you can shoot....
robdevil Posted October 11, 2011 Member ID: 1756 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 12 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 158 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 27 Achievement Points: 990 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 29, 2024 Birthday: 06/18/1980 Device: Windows Posted October 11, 2011 Ok. Tell me now what we can do and what we cant do on K3 server? Leaving map area using low gravity advantage and hiding far away on hills is allowed or not. Hiding in objects where You can not be seen but killed if enemy is enough lucky and will find You. Yesterday I could not find Poseidon he was hidden inside water towers. I did three shoots with sniper riffle and hit him but he stays alive(Juggernaut) all round without deads. Can we glitch or move outside map on K3? Awards
RD Posted October 11, 2011 Member ID: 2520 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 5 Topic Count: 50 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 627 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 48 Achievement Points: 3748 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/23/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16, 2018 Birthday: 08/18/1953 Posted October 11, 2011 Oh yeh....you can get killed in the pool easily cause I've been killed many a time trying to hide . At the time the server was full and nobody mentioned or questioned it
Sonovabich Posted October 11, 2011 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.87 Reputation: 5198 Achievement Points: 131537 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 9 Device: Windows Posted October 11, 2011 Good question Robdevil, K3 server you can do things that you normally can't or should'nt do, i don't really think we can stop people going out of the map because most of the rooves you can jump on should have or would normally have been out of bounds too, as you can go anywhere in this mod i'm not sure if we should call glitches or not, although yesterday i ended up under a map so i think that would still be called a glitch
Dukoo Posted October 11, 2011 Member ID: 2527 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 69 Topic Count: 223 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1965 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 2061 Achievement Points: 16335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/27/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: 6 hours ago Birthday: 02/27/1981 Device: Windows Posted October 11, 2011 Sonovabich Good question Robdevil, K3 server you can do things that you normally can't or should'nt do, i don't really think we can stop people going out of the map because most of the rooves you can jump on should have or would normally have been out of bounds too, as you can go anywhere in this mod i'm not sure if we should call glitches or not, although yesterday i ended up under a map so i think that would still be called a glitch theres a miljon of cod4 maps we have. they could put non glitching maps only on. there's alot of maps who makes it able not to glitch out of the area. so that ur only able to jump in the map and get on top of the buildings wich is special ennaugh if u ask me because normaly u cant get on anny roof with low jumping.
Sonovabich Posted October 11, 2011 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.87 Reputation: 5198 Achievement Points: 131537 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 9 Device: Windows Posted October 11, 2011 To be honest i just played 2 maps in the K3 mod and you could not jump on the rooves in any of them which for me makes the jumping a total waste of time, i just ran around as normal, i actually think the jumping is now spoiling all the other perks etc, people never get a chance or are fast enough to use them, airstrikes etc are useless people just jump away from them, the only think that is any good is if you get a chopper they are virtually invincible
Angel Posted October 11, 2011 Member ID: 46 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 103 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4326 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 2974 Achievement Points: 34860 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 29, 2024 Device: Windows Posted October 11, 2011 well theres several but its a constant battle. I know in MW2 V2, on the map psycho ( i think its called) has one that deals with the water but u constantly find people there. In reg freeze the map bog, people are back to using the glitches there. And I cant remember the name of the other one, but in the trees. Grey just went thru that yesterday. As for on Nuketown, that one is not a glitch i dont think. U do get a good advantage over people being in there cause its much easier to kill than be killed. Theres a few more but my mind is going blank now. I guess to make it easier for everyone, watch for it and video it and send to an admin so theres no more battles...I bitch enough so we dont need anymore added to it.
billyblade Posted October 11, 2011 Member ID: 34 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 47 Topic Count: 182 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2097 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 1003 Achievement Points: 14880 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 12, 2018 Birthday: 04/29/1966 Posted October 11, 2011 i was there on the mentioned day and map by flush, i think rockape clarified it pretty well. You can definitley get shot while in the pool, and naded for that matter. Being there is risky because if youre found out escape is almost impossible. Bomber is a player who exploits many spots and situations (credit to ya bomber) but nothing that i would liken to glitching or cheating, just sensible play. ut i'm no admin, so whatever the consensus at the end, i'll abide as well as i can, if i stay alive long enough to actually follow the rules Awards
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