eidolonFIRE Posted January 20, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Share Posted January 20, 2014 This is the first time I've ever agreed with anything obama has said... it's likely it will be the last time too. http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Obama+smoked+think+more+dangerous+than+alcohol/9405947/story.html Damage_inc- and hxtr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryWeezer Posted January 20, 2014 Member ID: 20166 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 611 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 7652 Content Per Day: 1.98 Reputation: 7228 Achievement Points: 53663 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 36 Joined: 10/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 16 Birthday: 10/16/1946 Device: Windows Share Posted January 20, 2014 At the risk of opening what might be seen as a political debate (and if so seen, I apologize and please move this to the political section) I would offer a recent editorial I wrote on the subject: In the wake of a Gallup poll that found more Americans are now in favor of legalizing marijuana than criminalizing it, we came across a statement from CALM (Citizens Against Legalizing Marijuana), which offers only this: “We affirm the 2006 FDA finding and vast scientific evidence that marijuana causes harm. The normalization, expanded use, and increased availability of marijuana are detrimental to our youth, to public health, and to the safety of our society.” That offers nothing of use. You can be harmed by drinking too much water. Is it logical to continue to expend society’s legal resources to prosecute and incarcerate those who choose to consume a drug which is no more a threat to safety or a detriment to any of us than is alcohol? We have laws against persons taking to the highway while intoxicated, whether by alcohol or any other drug. We have laws against minors consuming these drugs. Use them in the workplace, thereby putting others at risk, and you’ll be terminated. Why do we continue to instruct our law enforcement officers to arrest citizens for possession of plant material? Why, in Tennessee, do we classify them as felons if they possess a mere half-ounce of the stuff? Fact is that unlike alcohol, marijuana is not toxic, marijuana “overdoses” are all but impossible, it hardly compares to alcohol or tobacco addiction, has relatively minor side effects and clear medical value to those suffering from a variety of serious ailments, offering relief from pain, nausea and other symptoms. Yet some 750,000 Americans are arrested every year for merely possessing it — some for possessing it in their homes where they smoke a joint for relaxation rather than consume a glass of wine. Meantime, consumption of marijuana, which has not been and will not be deterred, is fueling international criminal activity, much of it centered in South American states, which has cost tens of thousands of lives and totally corrupted the government of neighboring Mexico. The U.S. spends untold millions in its failing program of interdicting the movement of marijuana into the country. And thousands of Americans languish in prison for the bum rap of selling it because their personal stash exceeded some arbitrary limit. No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose. On the other hand, 38,000 died two years ago from drug overdoses, 60 percent of which were related to prescription drugs; 25,600 died from alcohol-related causes and nearly a half-million from tobacco-related causes. Nor, contrary to popular belief, is marijuana a gateway drug. Scientific American points out that studies which show people who use marijuana first before trying other drugs is correlation and not causation: people who go on to use hard drugs also smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol. The criminalization of marijuana is costing American taxpayers more than $7 billion annually, destroying lives and driving an underground economy that leads to real crimes. It is long past time it was legalized. The federal government won’t do it, but Tennessee can and should join other states in decriminalizing marijuana. Damage_inc-, baldie, Leadfinger and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
little_old_man Posted January 20, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted January 20, 2014 He'll say whatever he thinks will make him more popular. Kind of like when he was first elected he was against gay marriage, then when it was obvious it wasn't a popular thing to say, he came out in favor of gay marriage. Classic politician. JohnnyQuest, TheEnemy, Boomer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted January 20, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 At the risk of opening what might be seen as a political debate (and if so seen, I apologize and please move this to the political section) I would offer a recent editorial I wrote on the subject: In the wake of a Gallup poll that found more Americans are now in favor of legalizing marijuana than criminalizing it, we came across a statement from CALM (Citizens Against Legalizing Marijuana), which offers only this: “We affirm the 2006 FDA finding and vast scientific evidence that marijuana causes harm. The normalization, expanded use, and increased availability of marijuana are detrimental to our youth, to public health, and to the safety of our society.” That offers nothing of use. You can be harmed by drinking too much water. Is it logical to continue to expend society’s legal resources to prosecute and incarcerate those who choose to consume a drug which is no more a threat to safety or a detriment to any of us than is alcohol? We have laws against persons taking to the highway while intoxicated, whether by alcohol or any other drug. We have laws against minors consuming these drugs. Use them in the workplace, thereby putting others at risk, and you’ll be terminated. Why do we continue to instruct our law enforcement officers to arrest citizens for possession of plant material? Why, in Tennessee, do we classify them as felons if they possess a mere half-ounce of the stuff? Fact is that unlike alcohol, marijuana is not toxic, marijuana “overdoses” are all but impossible, it hardly compares to alcohol or tobacco addiction, has relatively minor side effects and clear medical value to those suffering from a variety of serious ailments, offering relief from pain, nausea and other symptoms. Yet some 750,000 Americans are arrested every year for merely possessing it — some for possessing it in their homes where they smoke a joint for relaxation rather than consume a glass of wine. Meantime, consumption of marijuana, which has not been and will not be deterred, is fueling international criminal activity, much of it centered in South American states, which has cost tens of thousands of lives and totally corrupted the government of neighboring Mexico. The U.S. spends untold millions in its failing program of interdicting the movement of marijuana into the country. And thousands of Americans languish in prison for the bum rap of selling it because their personal stash exceeded some arbitrary limit. No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose. On the other hand, 38,000 died two years ago from drug overdoses, 60 percent of which were related to prescription drugs; 25,600 died from alcohol-related causes and nearly a half-million from tobacco-related causes. Nor, contrary to popular belief, is marijuana a gateway drug. Scientific American points out that studies which show people who use marijuana first before trying other drugs is correlation and not causation: people who go on to use hard drugs also smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol. The criminalization of marijuana is costing American taxpayers more than $7 billion annually, destroying lives and driving an underground economy that leads to real crimes. It is long past time it was legalized. The federal government won’t do it, but Tennessee can and should join other states in decriminalizing marijuana. Not to mention 600,000 people die every year from health problems DIRECTLY caused by smoking cigarettes. But, it's legal because there are large corporations making bank off of it and they will lobby to keep it legal. JohnnyQuest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyQuest Posted January 20, 2014 Member ID: 1965 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1176 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 1082 Achievement Points: 8599 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 15, 2016 Birthday: 02/11/1969 Share Posted January 20, 2014 imagine the revenues they could make...its a win win situation for any country....but like anything you have to be of age to obtain it...but the money it would generate would be astronomical... Leadfinger, Deckard, baldie and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyQuest Posted January 20, 2014 Member ID: 1965 Group: Fallen Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1176 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 1082 Achievement Points: 8599 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 15, 2016 Birthday: 02/11/1969 Share Posted January 20, 2014 He'll say whatever he thinks will make him more popular. Kind of like when he was first elected he was against gay marriage, then when it was obvious it wasn't a popular thing to say, he came out in favor of gay marriage. Classic politician. you know something L.O.M the more you post the better i like you. lol..kind of remind me of my Dad,, to the point, and hit the nail right on the head little_old_man, baldie and Leadfinger 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadfinger Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Device: Windows Share Posted February 2, 2014 you know something L.O.M the more you post the better i like you. lol..kind of remind me of my Dad,, to the point, and hit the nail right on the head I agree Mr Quest. Little Old Man Rocks! we just gotta be careful we dont end up with a little old man with a big old head . . . lol baldie, Damage_inc-, little_old_man and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
DEEJAYKEG Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 1238 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1207 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 6083 Content Per Day: 1.18 Reputation: 4984 Achievement Points: 50727 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 11 Joined: 03/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 11 Device: Kindle Fire Share Posted February 2, 2014 Be well - say "no" to cannabis! http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/drugs/Pages/Cannabisdangers.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
reddog955i Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 691 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 4 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 292 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 152 Achievement Points: 2273 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 16 Birthday: 02/27/1953 Device: Windows Share Posted February 2, 2014 A few know me some what from games,and the few post here. I spent 30 + years as a durg addict ,speed drug of choice, but i have done just about everything,I have hepits c,have taken the trement, and failed, I now have 20years sorbity, I started smoking again, to cope with derpression and to enjoy life .I was in a sobor motorcycle club for 16 years . The Freemen Mc and my self save my life,I would not be her to tell you all this with out that life experice.Drugs KIll . I have many friends that are no longer with us. I have spoken at the VA AA meetings, i have seen it first hand . Yes cannabis is more harmfull then supports say, any thing not taken in modaration is harm full. we have more people in prison than any other counrty, 50% on drug charges .where does it stop. I am for decriminalizing marijuana, If ya have to get high, cannabis, is the least leathel ,I have been reading up on this , and from experice there is more tars and chems in pot then cigs ,but ya just don't smoke 2 to 3 packs a day do ya ..lol lol again sorry for my spelling , lol clifford :devil: PS little old man is right Classic politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Unchileno Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 101 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 109 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.14 Content Count: 8133 Content Per Day: 1.52 Reputation: 6747 Achievement Points: 61498 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 13 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Yesterday at 05:52 AM Birthday: 01/23/1974 Device: iPhone Share Posted February 2, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GUkzTnFG0 Damage_inc- and BUDMAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14881 Content Per Day: 2.78 Reputation: 7824 Achievement Points: 91060 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted February 2, 2014 He'll say whatever he thinks will make him more popular. Kind of like when he was first elected he was against gay marriage, then when it was obvious it wasn't a popular thing to say, he came out in favor of gay marriage. Classic politician. I'm not sure he is a classic politician, but more of an opportunist. On the gay issue, it's not the popular thing, it's the CORRECT and JUST thing to do. If it was up to the GOP, they would vote Vladamir Putin into office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
little_old_man Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 1194 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 40 Topic Count: 436 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 6692 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 11691 Achievement Points: 53094 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 76 Joined: 02/27/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 16, 2023 Birthday: 04/15/1960 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I'm not sure he is a classic politician, but more of an opportunist. On the gay issue, it's not the popular thing, it's the CORRECT and JUST thing to do. If it was up to the GOP, they would vote Vladamir Putin into office. Ah, there is that moderate voice of reason we all know so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Boomer Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 2083 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 42 Topic Count: 172 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3554 Content Per Day: 0.73 Reputation: 4992 Achievement Points: 23761 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/31/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 14, 2014 Birthday: 10/20/1962 Share Posted February 2, 2014 hmmmmmmm deep thought here...... Drugs kill? Guns Kill? nah people however do kill! to much of anything is a bad thing! I would much rather smoke a dooby than drink booze or do anything else for that matter and I have done it all except using needles! I never got addicted to any of the pills I took (speed was the only one I had trouble letting go of), I never got addicted to all the coke I snorted. I started smoking pot at the age of 10 and quit at the age of 37 and have started and stopped oh maybe 6 times since then! Drugs are not something for the WEAK minded person, ffs my first, middle & last name is COCAINE, LSD & POT! proud of this nah not really but it was just some of things we did back then. I gave it all up easier than I gave nicotine up! My point is this to all who disagree about making it legal! In all my life I have never seen a joint kill, as I have with alcohol ( my father, step father and more friends than you can count)! Pot does not lead to harder drugs, people who want to get higher lead to harder drugs! Guns don't kill people, people who abuse guns kill people! Obama is the worst thing this nation has ever done to itself and I don't give a flying rats ass who or what he says he stands for! Impeach his worthless ass and make pot legal hmmmmm NOW THIS sounds like a plan! Peace, Boomer BUDMAN and Leadfinger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eidolonFIRE Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 I've seen kids mess themselves up more with energy drinks than with pot. Leadfinger and Boomer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted February 2, 2014 I had a real energy drink.... once. Never had a second. I just didnt like the effects of being suped up on sugar and caffeine. eidolonFIRE and Boomer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
PimpedOutPete Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 174 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 129 Topic Count: 387 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 14881 Content Per Day: 2.78 Reputation: 7824 Achievement Points: 91060 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 52 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 7 hours ago Birthday: 04/23/1970 Device: Macintosh Share Posted February 2, 2014 Ah, there is that moderate voice of reason we all know so well. Nothing like the voice of reason between Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Retarded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Painsponge Posted February 2, 2014 Member ID: 294 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 25 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 969 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 893 Achievement Points: 8670 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/07/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 10/29/1963 Device: Windows Share Posted February 2, 2014 On that note, I will have my four-o-clock bong hit. PimpedOutPete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
ROCKMAN Posted February 3, 2014 Member ID: 20555 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 83 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 70 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 104 Achievement Points: 1137 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/08/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 28, 2021 Birthday: 08/30/1966 Share Posted February 3, 2014 They need to legalize it and get it over with! eidolonFIRE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eidolonFIRE Posted February 3, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 I had a real energy drink.... once. Never had a second. I just didnt like the effects of being suped up on sugar and caffeine. No seriously, people get migraines when they final come down off of having 3 a day. It's not good. In lots of cases they get diabetes later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage_inc- Posted February 3, 2014 Member ID: 2048 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 294 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 6689 Content Per Day: 1.37 Reputation: 4709 Achievement Points: 48999 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/15/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 29, 2023 Birthday: 05/30/1967 Device: Windows Share Posted February 3, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4GUkzTnFG0 great documentary-great info ty and some amazing stories Unchileno and JohnnyDos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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