baldie Posted March 2, 2014 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 08:04 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Posted March 2, 2014 I don't know about the rest of you but this is starting to worry me big time http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26405635 Lets face it Afghan conflict nearly over what fucked up fight are our governments going to get us into next. And lets face it if our country's start arguing with the likes of Russia we are all screwed no one wins that conflict.....So why do our stupid politicians not just leave it to them selves to sort out and not get involved vipersniper and Leadfinger 2 Awards
hxtr Posted March 2, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted March 2, 2014 I don't know about the rest of you but this is starting to worry me big time http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26405635 Lets face it Afghan conflict nearly over what fucked up fight are our governments going to get us into next. And lets face it if our country's start arguing with the likes of Russia we are all screwed no one wins that conflict.....So why do our stupid politicians not just leave it to them selves to sort out and not get involved If Russia takes Ukraine we got bigger problems. Cold war all over again is what is happening. The USA is broke and Putin knows it. Don't count on the US to help but we sure need to. This president we have aint worried about any of these wars. That is why everything has gone to shit and going even further south fast. One war we should fight is to help the people in Ukraine. They so much want to be like EU and West... not Russian again. They should of joined NATO back in 95 or so. I been talking to a few students who worked for me in Virginia... here is a response. ------------------------ Yeah man The fact that the president escape is giving u an opportunity to start a new life, to build a new Ukraine, more independent, modern and democratic. Personally I believe that Western(EU) way is the best way for us, in many ways. It will help us get rid of post-soviet syndrom faster. About russia-right now they are doing enormous absurd actions in ouw south territory (Krimea). As for today they brought nore than 6000 units of military forces to "stabilize" the situation there, which is an clearly a rude provocation. Hopefully our new government will have anough power and wisdom to keep cool on that kind of provocation and make a right decisions abd actions on that and also we all hope for EU and US help in it, because we can not go against putin on our owns. vipersniper and Hemps 2
hxtr Posted March 2, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted March 2, 2014 Maybe we should have turned our backs on everyone during WWII.
baldie Posted March 2, 2014 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 08:04 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Author Posted March 2, 2014 Hxtr I see where you are coming from and yes to some extent I do agree with you no one want to see any country oppressed ....But Russia aint stupid sorry Putin is not stupid he has timed this perfectly. I have no doubt Russia have been running this from the shadows and setting the scene and conditions for this to happen... Why now ? well Nato is totally useless without the USA and UK..... Here in the UK we have cut our armed forces to the bare knuckle we could not fight a prolonged battle against the like's of Russia and they know it so any threats from us fall on deaf ears we no longer have the might or firepower.. Although we have the fighting spirit and the troops they do not have the equipment So the British are like the fighting mad dog that has had its teeth pulled...... all bark no bite... Now the US...... yes you have the armed forces and the weapons but your country is in the same boat as many you do not have the funds to fight a prolonged battle and again Putin knows this so any threats from the US would again fall on Deaf ears.... So Nato....all they can do is rattle Sabres and hope Putin sees some common sense and backs down.....And that's the million dollar question eidolonFIRE, hxtr and Leadfinger 3 Awards
KingStinger! Posted March 2, 2014 Member ID: 2465 Group: +++ Minecraft Head Admin Followers: 30 Topic Count: 170 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1818 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 1937 Achievement Points: 14560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 05/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 20 Birthday: 04/17/1972 Device: Windows Posted March 2, 2014 Ive been hearing about our Canadian government throwing there threats at Russia to. This is the last thing we need in Canada is Russia as an enemy. They will squash is like a bug.. Although, we would have our American neighbors back us, but this could be the match that lights the next world war.. It will come one day.. Just hoping its not in my life time. baldie 1 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted March 2, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Posted March 2, 2014 Hxtr I see where you are coming from and yes to some extent I do agree with you no one want to see any country oppressed ....But Russia aint stupid sorry Putin is not stupid he has timed this perfectly. I have no doubt Russia have been running this from the shadows and setting the scene and conditions for this to happen... Why now ? well Nato is totally useless without the USA and UK..... Here in the UK we have cut our armed forces to the bare knuckle we could not fight a prolonged battle against the like's of Russia and they know it so any threats from us fall on deaf ears we no longer have the might or firepower.. Although we have the fighting spirit and the troops they do not have the equipment So the British are like the fighting mad dog that has had its teeth pulled...... all bark no bite... Now the US...... yes you have the armed forces and the weapons but your country is in the same boat as many you do not have the funds to fight a prolonged battle and again Putin knows this so any threats from the US would again fall on Deaf ears.... So Nato....all they can do is rattle Sabres and hope Putin sees some common sense and backs down.....And that's the million dollar question Prolonged fight? no... but a crazy ass short one for sure. "Wars" these days are just operations. We may not have enough men to fill trenches but we have enough ordinance to clear the earth a couple times over. baldie and loaderXI 2
Leadfinger Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Posted March 3, 2014 Obama is weak. Putin knows this. Putin knows he can do what he pleases and he wont see any significant military action from anyone. Various country's of the world can impose sanctions and exclude Russia from their little "clubs" but Putin don't give a shit. Threats of military action by the US from Obama will never happen . . .Obama avoids conflict like the plague. Putin is a gangster and should be treated as such. Sanctions wont work because gangsters can get what they need no matter what This might seem like a crazy idea but if you stop and think about it . . . . it could be the only way to get Putin under control Obama should just straight up tell Putin to go home and let that country have free elections or else he has an nervous twitch and his finger is on the firing switch for some nukes. Yes I know everyone will freak out over this solution but Putin is a gangster and a thug and will only back down under the ultimate threat. We know Obama wont send troops in this situation and he has drawn lines in the sand before but can Putin take a chance on getting nuked over this situation? Once the people of Russia realize that they could be vaporized over this they would start bitchen at Putin to back off. I am not in favor of nuclear war there is no winner but because Obama has displayed his compassion to show the world that the US is a kinder and gentler nation he would never follow thru with this threat. The question is what would Putin do? He could just laugh at Obama and continue with his plan Or he could rethink his plan and come to his senses and realize that the situation isn't worth the possibility (however slim) of getting nuked. The threat of getting nuked might be the only thing that gets Putin's attention. The longer this thing goes on the worse it will become. This is a perfect example of why America needs A person of strength and resolve to be president and the whole country knew Obama was "soft" on foreign affairs but chose to re-elect him anyway . . .lets hope we learned from our mistakes This post should bring some good conversation . . .har! baldie, hxtr and Hemps 3 Awards
7Toes Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted March 3, 2014 looks like the start of a nother cold war is in the making oil the hinges to the doors to your bomb shelters and make sure you have them stocked hxtr 1 Awards
7Toes Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 87 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 58 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3789 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 3589 Achievement Points: 27251 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 7 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2022 Birthday: 04/02/1871 Posted March 3, 2014 yep the only option usa has is words we are broke the american people are sick of wars......... hxtr, vipersniper and Damage_inc- 3 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Posted March 3, 2014 Obama is weak. Putin knows this. Putin knows he can do what he pleases and he wont see any significant military action from anyone. Various country's of the world can impose sanctions and exclude Russia from their little "clubs" but Putin don't give a shit. Threats of military action by the US from Obama will never happen . . .Obama avoids conflict like the plague. Putin is a gangster and should be treated as such. Sanctions wont work because gangsters can get what they need no matter what This might seem like a crazy idea but if you stop and think about it . . . . it could be the only way to get Putin under control Obama should just straight up tell Putin to go home and let that country have free elections or else he has an nervous twitch and his finger is on the firing switch for some nukes. Yes I know everyone will freak out over this solution but Putin is a gangster and a thug and will only back down under the ultimate threat. We know Obama wont send troops in this situation and he has drawn lines in the sand before but can Putin take a chance on getting nuked over this situation? Once the people of Russia realize that they could be vaporized over this they would start bitchen at Putin to back off. I am not in favor of nuclear war there is no winner but because Obama has displayed his compassion to show the world that the US is a kinder and gentler nation he would never follow thru with this threat. The question is what would Putin do? He could just laugh at Obama and continue with his plan Or he could rethink his plan and come to his senses and realize that the situation isn't worth the possibility (however slim) of getting nuked. The threat of getting nuked might be the only thing that gets Putin's attention. The longer this thing goes on the worse it will become. This is a perfect example of why America needs A person of strength and resolve to be president and the whole country knew Obama was "soft" on foreign affairs but chose to re-elect him anyway . . .lets hope we learned from our mistakes This post should bring some good conversation . . .har! Even though nobody wants a nuke but some think it might be necessary... It's impossible... Not only the impact on the environment but the impact on politics would never be the same. It's been a loooooong time since the last nuke and things have changed. The impact of social media on elections, media coverage, surveillance coverage (if a nuke was detonated we would capture it from 100 different perspectives), the way foreign policy works. A nuke just can't happen. Unless a nation is literally CRAZY enough to use a nuke, they can't and won't be used. If it came to a nuke war, America has the most but that doesn't matter... we would destroy everybody including ourselves. We ( and whoever else was launching nukes ) would put the world into a post-apocalyptic like scenario. 80-90% of earth's population would be wiped out when the end finally came. I hate obama, but I'm glad he is not quick to war. That would be worse. It's too easy to escalate the situation to extreme scenarios.
hxtr Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted March 3, 2014 Hxtr I see where you are coming from and yes to some extent I do agree with you no one want to see any country oppressed ....But Russia aint stupid sorry Putin is not stupid he has timed this perfectly. I have no doubt Russia have been running this from the shadows and setting the scene and conditions for this to happen... Why now ? well Nato is totally useless without the USA and UK..... Here in the UK we have cut our armed forces to the bare knuckle we could not fight a prolonged battle against the like's of Russia and they know it so any threats from us fall on deaf ears we no longer have the might or firepower.. Although we have the fighting spirit and the troops they do not have the equipment So the British are like the fighting mad dog that has had its teeth pulled...... all bark no bite... Now the US...... yes you have the armed forces and the weapons but your country is in the same boat as many you do not have the funds to fight a prolonged battle and again Putin knows this so any threats from the US would again fall on Deaf ears.... So Nato....all they can do is rattle Sabres and hope Putin sees some common sense and backs down.....And that's the million dollar question I can agree with all that and most of the comments above. We have cut our military as well and we are cutting it down to some 400,000 troops. They don't want to protect us.. they are giving us away. On the Nuke comment.... the day we are hit with a EMP weapon we will all be sent back to the stone ages. This is when them FEMA camps and Martial Law will be needed. I don't blame Putin for thumbing his nose at us/Obama. When you are as weak at Obama is, what do you expect? The war has never been over with Putin and Putin knows we are fucking broke. We cant afford this cold war. We have cut our military and are cutting it down to some 400,000 troops. They don't want to protect us.. they are giving us away. Leadfinger and baldie 2
codpiece Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 5470 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 52 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2509 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 3609 Achievement Points: 23134 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 8 Joined: 02/04/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 21 hours ago Birthday: 09/17/1968 Device: Windows Posted March 3, 2014 My favorite quote was from Kerry, "You just don't in the 21st Century behave in 19th Century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped-up pretext," Mr Kerry told the CBS program Face the Nation. . What an idiot. What have we (the U.S. and NATO and France) been doing since 2001? To our young XI members welcome to the world us old XI's grew up in. You think you had fear about terrorism? That's nothing compared to what the cold war was. Sonovabich, QueenCobra, Leadfinger and 2 others 5 Awards
baldie Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 08:04 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Author Posted March 3, 2014 HXTR you are right Russia have us and most of Europe by the balls because a huge amount of our resources come from them like gas down the Siberian pipeline coal, steel the list goes on. So we impose sanctions on them to hurt ourselves... And now China are backing Russia so they don't need weapons China calls in its American debts, US goes bust they call in the UK debts cut off the proposed funds for the UK's new Nuclear power stations and we are screwed. Our Politicians have backed us into a corner we cant get out of, So our politicians will complain and moan all the while knowing we cant do anything...But at least it will look like they are trying so everything will be fine..... NOT. What worries me what will Russia do next because they know we cant stop them... Bring Poland Belarus Latvia ect back into there fold and lets face it these poor country's would not be able to stop the might of the Russian Military. The Worlds gone mad deerejon, Sonovabich, vipersniper and 2 others 5 Awards
Sonovabich Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 82 Group: ** Registered Users Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1535 Topics Per Day: 0.27 Content Count: 5022 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 5198 Achievement Points: 131537 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 116 Joined: 09/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 8 Device: Windows Posted March 3, 2014 I don't know about the rest of you but this is starting to worry me big time http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26405635 Lets face it Afghan conflict nearly over what fucked up fight are our governments going to get us into next. And lets face it if our country's start arguing with the likes of Russia we are all screwed no one wins that conflict.....So why do our stupid politicians not just leave it to them selves to sort out and not get involved Yes m8 it is worrying the shit out of me, this Putin dickhead is a very dangerous man, he wants all the old Soviet breakaway states back and he will do anything to achieve this i think. hxtr, Leadfinger, baldie and 1 other 4
hxtr Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted March 3, 2014 HXTR you are right Russia have us and most of Europe by the balls because a huge amount of our resources come from them like gas down the Siberian pipeline coal, steel the list goes on. So we impose sanctions on them to hurt ourselves... And now China are backing Russia so they don't need weapons China calls in its American debts, US goes bust they call in the UK debts cut off the proposed funds for the UK's new Nuclear power stations and we are screwed. Our Politicians have backed us into a corner we cant get out of, So our politicians will complain and moan all the while knowing we cant do anything...But at least it will look like they are trying so everything will be fine..... NOT. What worries me what will Russia do next because they know we cant stop them... Bring Poland Belarus Latvia ect back into there fold and lets face it these poor country's would not be able to stop the might of the Russian Military. The Worlds gone mad It would be really sad if they took Poland back in when they are part of NATO unlike Ukraine. But like you said.. they have them by the balls. They hey Germany by the balls, Poland, France and sure much more. I did not know the UK were supplied gas by them as well. Damn! If so they have all of Europe by the balls. Ukraine has so much gas flowing out of it's country from Russia to all of Europe. I can see why Putin considering that countries control part of it's national security. We do when it comes to OIL and gas in the Middle East. If anyone tried to mess with it we would go to war overnight. Obama had a 90 minutes conversation with Putin were Obama expressed his concerns and gave a few stern warnings. The rest of the 85 minutes was Putin laughing his ass off. Putin is playing Chess...... Obama can't even play checkers. Yes m8 it is worrying the shit out of me, this Putin dickhead is a very dangerous man, he wants all the old Soviet breakaway states back and he will do anything to achieve this i think. Yes he does and yes he will. Even if people woke up at this point it just don't matter..... A lot of innocent people are going to lose their way of life. Us possibly included. Leadfinger, vipersniper and baldie 3
loaderXI Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 252 Group: +++ COD2 Head Admin Followers: 72 Topic Count: 396 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 6439 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 6582 Achievement Points: 54661 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 32 Joined: 09/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 02:08 AM Birthday: 03/22/1965 Device: Windows Posted March 3, 2014 Sorry everyone could,nt read it all.....I am going to say this.....In the beginning of WWII the USA was on 1 knee,broke,starved and there for we did not enter the War until 1942 but My family were all War vets in fact fought every War this Country ever had and invested everything they owned..... When times get tough and shit hits the fan the American people can rise up like a mother fucker....Problem is it might have to hit the people now a days right in the face and thats why we FIGHT our asses off for Gun rights....We remember til this day to never put our weapons down Pharticus, Bogleg, Blackbart and 5 others 8 Awards
Leadfinger Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Posted March 3, 2014 Suggesting nukes was bad Idea I know but the point being is we don't have a way to stop Pootin. These gangsters that run Russia are hardline. One ace that the world may have is the Russian people, Do they seek world dominance? Are they willing to supply the Russian war machine to overthrow there neighbors? Are the Russian people that much out of touch with the rest of the world that they see this as expected and approve? This type of aggressive maneuver by the Russian Government is not going to be a popular move with most of the world and the whole Russian population will be responsible, Are they willing to take on the role of "world assholes" and just sit back and allow Pootin to run over anyone he chooses? I know that the Russian people cant just impeach Pootin so how does the Russian people stand up against a leader that is a gangster and wont step down . . . . . . .I don't think anything but a well placed bullet would work. I wonder what the Russian people are saying about this whole incident? This is they type of scenario that could lead to nukes . . . . If the United states becomes threatened with a Russian invasion I would support Nukes wholeheartedly . . . If I cant live free then life is not worth living here on earth . . . . . . . . I'll see you on the other side. So much for neighborly love hxtr and loaderXI 2 Awards
Pharticus Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 1320 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 7 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 611 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 357 Achievement Points: 4498 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 22, 2024 Birthday: 01/14/1976 Device: Windows Posted March 3, 2014 We are seeing the book of Revelation beginning to play itself out.... QueenCobra and hxtr 2 Awards
eidolonFIRE Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Posted March 3, 2014 We are seeing the book of Revelation beginning to play itself out.... People said that at Y2K too though... and at Y1K actually. Leadfinger 1
hxtr Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted March 3, 2014 We are seeing the book of Revelation beginning to play itself out.... I can agree with that as well.
baldie Posted March 3, 2014 Member ID: 607 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 76 Topic Count: 246 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3367 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 2718 Achievement Points: 34252 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/21/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 08:04 PM Birthday: 09/16/1966 Device: Windows Author Posted March 3, 2014 Suggesting nukes was bad Idea I know but the point being is we don't have a way to stop Pootin. These gangsters that run Russia are hardline. One ace that the world may have is the Russian people, Do they seek world dominance? Are they willing to supply the Russian war machine to overthrow there neighbors? Are the Russian people that much out of touch with the rest of the world that they see this as expected and approve? This type of aggressive maneuver by the Russian Government is not going to be a popular move with most of the world and the whole Russian population will be responsible, Are they willing to take on the role of "world assholes" and just sit back and allow Pootin to run over anyone he chooses? I know that the Russian people cant just impeach Pootin so how does the Russian people stand up against a leader that is a gangster and wont step down . . . . . . .I don't think anything but a well placed bullet would work. I wonder what the Russian people are saying about this whole incident? This is they type of scenario that could lead to nukes . . . . If the United states becomes threatened with a Russian invasion I would support Nukes wholeheartedly . . . If I cant live free then life is not worth living here on earth . . . . . . . . I'll see you on the other side. So much for neighborly love Leadfinger you are right but I do not think it will come to nukes. As mad as Putin is he would not push that button because it would leave him nothing to rule over, no I think he will take back areas one at a time and he would never invade the USA its self. But you are vulnerable in Alaska they could roll across into Canada and the US... But again that would be one hell of a gamble Like the UK you guys would fight to the last man and make it too costly in man power and weapons. No with China's help it would be an economic attack and maybe a few strategic explosions. Because remember your power grid again like ours is fragile take out a couple of primary sections and whole states could be left in the dark leading to riots and looting we would be so busy protecting ourselves from ourselves he could do whatever he wanted in eastern Europe. And that's his primary goal make Russia whole again while we are in chaos. And although we would sort our country's out and get strong again we would be playing catch up for years. Leadfinger 1 Awards
Leadfinger Posted March 4, 2014 Member ID: 4888 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 56 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2020 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3795 Achievement Points: 26312 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 29, 2023 Birthday: 08/29/1962 Posted March 4, 2014 If you take away just a few of our luxury's anarchy would prevail. Most importantly is electricity because so many devices require it and Russia probably already has enough spy's in the states here to sabotage just a few key locations and "poof" the grid goes down and we are in the dark As you said Baldie we would be so busy protecting ourselves from ourselves that the door would be open for invasion. Pootin is still in a mind warp from the 50s and has the old school soviet thought pattern and wants to reclaim the country's that split off when the Soviet Union broke up. I'm hearing now that China approves what Pootin is doing . . . . . . perhaps an alliance? remember Germany and Japan? Putin is a ex KGB General (or something like that) he knows what he is doing Obama is an ex community activist . . . . he has no clue about foreign policy. Putin - Chess Obama - Marbles Any questions? baldie and hxtr 2 Awards
hxtr Posted March 4, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted March 4, 2014 I really don't think Obama minds what Putin is doing. They day Russia invaded Ukraine a story comes out about the ATF and fake storefronts running stings. Reminds me of what Timmoy Gitner said once.... "Never let a good crisis go to waste". ATF under investigation for undercover storefront stingshttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/03/atf-under-investigation-for-undercover-storefront-stings/ Leadfinger and baldie 2
hxtr Posted March 4, 2014 Member ID: 220 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 147 Topic Count: 595 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 16950 Content Per Day: 2.96 Reputation: 13538 Achievement Points: 129714 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 120 Joined: 09/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 26, 2023 Birthday: 04/05/1970 Posted March 4, 2014 This is interesting.... http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/ukraine-and-little-cold-war?utm_source=freelist-f&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20140304&utm_term=Gweekly&utm_content=readmore Leadfinger and baldie 2
eidolonFIRE Posted March 4, 2014 Member ID: 2759 Group: **- Inactive Registered Users Followers: 17 Topic Count: 199 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3496 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 3021 Achievement Points: 26464 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/22/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 16, 2017 Birthday: 07/27/1990 Posted March 4, 2014 This is interesting.... http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/ukraine-and-little-cold-war?utm_source=freelist-f&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20140304&utm_term=Gweekly&utm_content=readmore Very interesting insight.
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