Open Warfare 2 beta 4

[Sammy]

I dont misunderstand. I know there are two types. One is the auto lunge. Which is typically set at 128. That I didnt change. Commando changes the other one from 64 to 128. With commando, because that value is set at 128 already, the auto lunge isnt really used. See screenshot of melee kill at 126 units.

 

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[iboomboom]

Sammy I ran up to someone, knifed them, it went inside them, no death, I stood still and knifed another time then the player died.

[Turk]

If your test mod sharing same range numbers with new mod than I think melee aimbot is off for freezetag thats why we cant hit with knife maybe?and stab would also kill that bot from 126 without any perk.Why people will use commando perk if it doesn't increase maximum range.

Edited May 3, 2015 by Turk

[Sammy]

I will be tweaking the numbers a bit and see what happens.

[Turk]

Let's see.But in my opinion it is not about numbers its about melee aimbot is off in mod.

[iboomboom]

Can we kick the Turk he is annoying. Why does he remind me of this song:

 

[Sammy]

Not about the numbers? Seriously?

[Sammy]

Ok guys and gals here is what I am going to do. I will move hardwired to tier 2.

 

And...

 

In tier 3 we are going to try Last Stand with various modifications.

 

For one you dont get your pistol until you are on the ground and vulnerable. You cannot be shot while going through the falling part  but you cannot shoot back. So none of that firing while invincible bullshit.

 

If you are shot with Venom rounds, or already dying from them, you dont go to LS. You are simply dead.

 

You cannot heal yourself from LS, even as a medic. However other medics can heal you.

[iboomboom]

This game is way to fast paced for anyone to try to heal anyone..

[Sammy]

In the different games with medics, cod bf etc, how long does it usually take once started? 2 seconds maybe? I dont know. But as for fast paced, if people have time to defrost they have time to heal. Technically speaking, as far as the game is concerned, defrosting is healing.

[iboomboom]

Yes but u defrost from a distance.

[Sammy]

Slowly.

 

If however you can heal in 1-2 seconds its not such a big deal. Reviving from SC takes a little over a second I think. iirc the medics in BF are pretty fast. Or they were in the past.  In the end tho it should be useful not a hindrance. If LS and being able to heal them doesnt do much for people then I am not sure if its worth it.

[Blaze]

Been away for a week and you have done loads with it. Got to play it for the first time last night and it played really well, except for knife fails aplenty and the sway on the HK16 was massive. Seems like defrosting was a bit quicker but you can't melt ice sticking through a wall any more.

 

Many people were complaining of being shot whilst still in spawn protection, although, it didn't happen to me yet.

 

Great work!

[Onyx]

Been away for a week and you have done loads with it. Got to play it for the first time last night and it played really well, except for knife fails aplenty and the sway on the HK16 was massive. Seems like defrosting was a bit quicker but you can't melt ice sticking through a wall any more.

 

Many people were complaining of being shot whilst still in spawn protection, although, it didn't happen to me yet.

 

Great work!

 

The reason you can't thaw ice through walls is because we were having issues of not being able to shoot through the solid bubbles.

It was either defrost bubbles or be able to shoot through them.

And we all know how frustrating it was emptying a clip into a solid bubble only for an enemy who was in there defrosting his mate to pop one round in your face and run off laughing

[moonpie]

Ok guys and gals here is what I am going to do. I will move hardwired to tier 2.

 

 

 

I can't remember the load outs for everything.  I am assuming I still won't be able to use Hacker/Hardwire/Hardline all at the same time?

[Sammy]

I can't remember the load outs for everything.  I am assuming I still won't be able to use Hacker/Hardwire/Hardline all at the same time?

I just cant win.

 

[iboomboom]

You cannot please everyone.

[moonpie]

I just cant win.

 

 

 

To be fair, i asked this question on page 4 of this thread.  I was basically asking if the move was to provide this functionality.  I assume by your response that it is not.  Translation: long before cobra started bitching about using stealth and hardwired together, i asked about the move.

[Sammy]

Things can be moved. Done it so many times I cant count until I found a distribution I liked and put it into later versions.

 

But...............................

 

If I were to make it so you could pick any of the three perks you wanted, limited to only three, would everyone shut up about everything else?  :devil:

 

edit: Being able to have stopping power, double tap, and steady aim or deep impact might not be a good combo for balance. I am sure there are other combos as well that might not be so good.

Edited May 4, 2015 by Sammy

[Tron]

Things can be moved. Done it so many times I cant count until I found a distribution I liked and put it into later versions.

 

But...............................

 

If I were to make it so you could pick any of the three perks you wanted, limited to only three, would everyone shut up about everything else?  :devil:

 

edit: Being able to have stopping power, double tap, and steady aim or deep impact might not be a good combo for balance. I am sure there are other combos as well that might not be so good.

If you do this....it will eliminate the bitching...for a few days....until people are bitching about the scores of those that wish to push the limits of balance and take load outs that are heavily skewed in their favor....so you really can't win. I am happy with whatever you decide to do, and I am just excited about doing new things with this game and spicing it up a bit with some variety.

 

I still wish that there was a "gambler" button that would give you a totally random setup for everything (weapons and perks and killstreaks). I like playing with a different variety of setups all the time just to have fun doing different things.

[Uranium]

@@Sammy I've noticed sometimes with hardwired perk, if counter uav is up and I die, the perk no longer works (even after being unfrozen) until it expires. Also, when I don't have the hardwired perk, I can get hurt by my own emp nades, I didn't know if that was always the case.

[Sammy]

Yes it is. Like you are killed by your own frags or blinded by flashbangs.

 

Could you be more specific when you mean it no longer works so I can reproduce the problem?

[Turk]

Looks like knifing is working properly now.Thank you sammy

[Blaze]

Knife fails if you are too close, same way that you cannot collect a care package if you are too close to it. Went to knife PDizzle yesterday and just knifed through him, cannot have missed to side as was behind him walking down a narrow corridor. I am constantly having to back up away from my care package to allow me to collect it.

 

Don't know if these two issues are related, but if feels as though they must be.

[Sammy]

For the care package its not that you are too close. It's that you are not focusing closely enough to the center of it. I will see if the lookat requirements are a little too strict tho.