Sammy Posted July 9, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Share Posted July 9, 2015 This thread is for posting ideas about perk tier layouts. If you have an idea please post. Also, you have a comment about someones idea post also what will work for you and what might not. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Onyx Posted July 9, 2015 Member ID: 7547 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 714 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 621 Achievement Points: 5030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 4, 2020 Birthday: 07/10/1984 Share Posted July 9, 2015 As long as I can use hardwired and hardline like I could yesterday I'm happy. I don't get why the perks keep getting shuffled around. Afaik no one ever has a complaint about perk layouts until 1.46 was rolled out azzkikr, Scoarch and iboomboom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 9, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 There are always complaints. So in that case one or the other has to switch with something from another tier. Which? And for what? And then who will not like that switch? Its like wash, rinse, repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
LOCO Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 465 Group: +++ COD4 Head Admin Followers: 59 Topic Count: 357 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2104 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 2509 Achievement Points: 19397 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 14 hours ago Birthday: 02/09/1977 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2015 put the perks how they were on the last mod those rc cars are killing us so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Get the countermeasures mine. When you hear a car coming throw the mine in the direction it is coming from. It is very good at killing the cars. Then go pick it back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
LOCO Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 465 Group: +++ COD4 Head Admin Followers: 59 Topic Count: 357 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2104 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 2509 Achievement Points: 19397 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 14 hours ago Birthday: 02/09/1977 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2015 what about car jammer cause i dont use mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Hardwired works as before. As for not using mines, that is your choice. The game is all about choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
LOCO Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 465 Group: +++ COD4 Head Admin Followers: 59 Topic Count: 357 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2104 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 2509 Achievement Points: 19397 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/20/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: 14 hours ago Birthday: 02/09/1977 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2015 really cause i kept getting killed using hardwire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 I used it myself today. Seemed to work fine. As before, Hardwired doesnt stop you from being killed because the timer runs out. If you want to kill the car you either need to emp it, with the nade or the mine, or shoot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
moonpie Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 2184 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 17 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 238 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 298 Achievement Points: 1743 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/31/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: Monday at 08:41 PM Birthday: 09/04/1975 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2015 As suggested in my other post: Split out all the H perks (Hardwired, Hardline, and Hacker)....just keep Hacker and Stealth in the same tier. I also would not put Dead Silence in the same tier as Stealth...but that may not be that big of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Onyx Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 7547 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 714 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 621 Achievement Points: 5030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 4, 2020 Birthday: 07/10/1984 Share Posted July 10, 2015 For me tier 3 is useless. There is nothing in there that I would normally use iboomboom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Dead silence and stealth will remain on separate tiers. Hacker and stealth must be separate also. Otherwise its near impossible to sneak up on explosives and sentries to hack them. Choose gambler for perk 3 if you dont like any of the other options. YACCster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
YACCster Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 20683 Group: ++ COD4 Admin Followers: 138 Topic Count: 309 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 3352 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 4089 Achievement Points: 45254 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: 2 hours ago Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 10, 2015 I think it would be most excellent to have a gambler/random perk on each tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Onyx Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 7547 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 714 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 621 Achievement Points: 5030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 4, 2020 Birthday: 07/10/1984 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I think it would be most excellent to have a gambler/random perk on each tier. Gambler will give you a perk from any tier. So you just want 3 random perks? Close your eyes and just click one randomly iboomboom and moonpie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Onyx Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 7547 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 16 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 714 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 621 Achievement Points: 5030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/24/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 4, 2020 Birthday: 07/10/1984 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Choose gambler for perk 3 if you dont like any of the other options. I'd rather pick a perk that I want to use and that suits my gun loadout and style of play for a certain map/mood moonpie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
DramaLlama Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 1443 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 50 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2299 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 3788 Achievement Points: 17866 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 14 Joined: 05/24/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 8, 2023 Birthday: 02/19/1987 Device: Windows Share Posted July 10, 2015 swap hardline and second chance. 2nd tier is way too stacked with great perks. Onyx and iboomboom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 10, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 swap hardline and second chance. 2nd tier is way too stacked with great perks. That one might be doable. Offhand I dont see any conflicts. The one problem is that most players would run around with hardline. Meaning for example more cars, care packages, and predators. Considering this the player should be required to give up a great perk he would otherwise like. Otherwise might as well just decrease every streak requirement by 1 and remove the perk entirely. The later model of limiting perks by class was an interesting idea. But it had a lot more perks that broke up things like lightweight into two. Or turned stopping power into an attachment. Which in turn meant allowing two attachments because people wouldnt want to give up an enhanced sight for it. But dont just want to do that by itself. Require a perk. I forget the name of it. Gets real complicated, doesnt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Uranium Posted July 11, 2015 Member ID: 22485 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 245 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 151 Achievement Points: 1588 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 26 Birthday: 06/26/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted July 11, 2015 After looking at all the perks, I think Dead Silence should be moved to tier 3 and Hunter moved to tier 1. Currently tier 1 is all weapon/damage modifications, I think Hunter would be better placed there since it is a sniper weapon change. Tier 3, besides Hunter, looks like all survivability. I think Dead Silence would be a better fit in that tier, and seems OP to be able to use Dead Silence and Stealth at the same time. Just my thoughts after looking at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 11, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) In general, the tiers are supposed to be in three categories. Weapon upgrades (stopping power), weapon proficiencies (sleight of hand), and special abilities (dead silence), The idea was that you choose one of each. Edit: sorry posted that wrong. Should be weapon proficiencies, special abilities, and extra equipment. Would this layout work? I dont think I missed anything or see any conflicts. Tier 1: Steady Aim, Double Tap, Stopping Power, Sonic Boom, Armor Piercing, Venom, Sleight of HandTier 2: Second Chance, Lightweight, Objective, Scavenger, Dead Silence, Hardline, Commando, HackerTier 3: Tactical Mask, Sniper Gear (hunter), Hardwired, Combat Medic, Ballistic Vest, Stealth Gear, Flak Jacket, Gambler Edited July 11, 2015 by Sammy Scoarch, DramaLlama, Onyx and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Scoarch Posted July 11, 2015 Member ID: 1733 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 9 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 614 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 555 Achievement Points: 5925 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/25/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 16, 2022 Birthday: 10/14/1967 Share Posted July 11, 2015 nice, hardwire and hardline are would be seperate. all i need ;lol Onyx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 11, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 And so many other perks to choose from that you ignore. Must get boring for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
NITRO Posted July 11, 2015 Member ID: 1095 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 34 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3639 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 2460 Achievement Points: 24702 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 2 Joined: 02/06/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: 19 hours ago Birthday: 03/23/1979 Device: Android Share Posted July 11, 2015 I did quite like dead silent and hardwired on separate tiers but no preference on others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Uranium Posted July 12, 2015 Member ID: 22485 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 11 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 245 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 151 Achievement Points: 1588 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/15 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 26 Birthday: 06/26/1983 Device: Windows Share Posted July 12, 2015 And so many other perks to choose from that you ignore. Must get boring for you. I did quite like dead silent and hardwired on separate tiers but no preference on others. I too enjoy dead silence and hardwired on separate tiers. I like the perks I run with. They fit my play style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
iboomboom Posted July 12, 2015 Member ID: 20343 Group: *** Clan Members Followers: 89 Topic Count: 203 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3381 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 3019 Achievement Points: 30034 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: Sunday at 09:05 AM Birthday: 07/01/1983 Device: Macintosh Share Posted July 12, 2015 In general, the tiers are supposed to be in three categories. Weapon upgrades (stopping power), weapon proficiencies (sleight of hand), and special abilities (dead silence), The idea was that you choose one of each. Edit: sorry posted that wrong. Should be weapon proficiencies, special abilities, and extra equipment. Would this layout work? I dont think I missed anything or see any conflicts. Tier 1: Steady Aim, Double Tap, Stopping Power, Sonic Boom, Armor Piercing, Venom, Sleight of Hand Tier 2: Second Chance, Lightweight, Objective, Scavenger, Dead Silence, Hardline, Commando, Hacker Tier 3: Tactical Mask, Sniper Gear (hunter), Hardwired, Combat Medic, Ballistic Vest, Stealth Gear, Flak Jacket, Gambler SOLD! Onyx and Scoarch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
Sammy Posted July 12, 2015 Member ID: 3036 Group: ***- Inactive Clan Members Followers: 31 Topic Count: 219 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 9419 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 7515 Achievement Points: 62539 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 21 Joined: 11/29/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 30, 2023 Birthday: 04/26/2008 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Assuming there are no issues, and I didnt miss anything, I will go with that layout for the recompiled modff. Scoarch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Awards
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